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Kuk Sool Won vs. Hapkido - comparison?

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Dave B.

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Apr 18, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/18/95
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In article <3mv339$d...@news1.shell>, nex...@shell.portal.com (NextGen
Software) said:
>Posted on 17 Apr 1995 at 21:02:32 by NextGen Software
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>Kuk Sool Won vs. Hapkido - comparison?
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>From: nex...@shell.portal.com (NextGen Software)
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>Date: 18 Apr 1995 01:02:32 GMT
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>I am quite interested in Kuk Sool Won and Hapkido but have only read about the
>two arts. From what I've heard, they seem quite similar with hapkido having
>more of a grappling emphasis. Is there anyone out there who has trained in
both
>arts who could give me a more detailed analysis?
>
> i.e. the pros and cons of each art compared to each other?

Peter,


As you have noticed both arts are similar. Kuk Sool lists Hapkido (Yu Sool)
as one of its parent arts, along with a host of others. The major difference
from my perspective is that Kuk Sool contains forms - both empty hand
and weapons. Hapkidoists also seem to be a bit "harder" but KS has
nicer uniforms. :-)


This is just my opinion, I may be wrong.

Dave Boylan

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NextGen Software

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Apr 18, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/18/95
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Dave B. (D...@brownvm.brown.edu) wrote:
: Peter,


: As you have noticed both arts are similar. Kuk Sool lists Hapkido (Yu Sool)
: as one of its parent arts, along with a host of others. The major difference
: from my perspective is that Kuk Sool contains forms - both empty hand
: and weapons. Hapkidoists also seem to be a bit "harder" but KS has
: nicer uniforms. :-)


: This is just my opinion, I may be wrong.

: Dave Boylan

Dave,

Does Kuk Sool have a set of pre-defined self-defense techniques which are
required at each belt level for advancement or is the self-defense aspect based
on using what you know from the forms and basics?

NextGen Software

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Apr 18, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/18/95
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I am quite interested in Kuk Sool Won and Hapkido but have only read about the
two arts. From what I've heard, they seem quite similar with hapkido having
more of a grappling emphasis. Is there anyone out there who has trained in both
arts who could give me a more detailed analysis?

i.e. the pros and cons of each art compared to each other?

Thanks!

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pwh...@remedy.com

Dave B.

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Apr 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/19/95
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In article <3n1987$4...@news1.shell>, nex...@shell.portal.com (NextGen
Software) said:
>Posted on 18 Apr 1995 at 16:59:51 by NextGen Software
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>Re: Kuk Sool Won vs. Hapkido - comparison?

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>From: nex...@shell.portal.com (NextGen Software)
>Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
>Date: 18 Apr 1995 20:59:51 GMT
>Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice)
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Peter,

Good question. Kuk Sool is a very organized martial art. There are
a series of techniques that are required for each rank. (Ki Bon Sul).
They consist of wrist grabs, throws, kicks, hand strikes, self defense
against weapons, use of weapons - knife, short stick, long stick, cane,
sword, etc. Dan Jun Ho Hup Bup (Ki breathing exercises) are also taught.

Dave Boylan

Mike Shimer

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Apr 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/19/95
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In article <3mv339$d...@news1.shell>,

NextGen Software <nex...@shell.portal.com> wrote:
>I am quite interested in Kuk Sool Won and Hapkido but have only read about the
>two arts. From what I've heard, they seem quite similar with hapkido having
>more of a grappling emphasis. Is there anyone out there who has trained in both
>arts who could give me a more detailed analysis?


I remember reading somewhere that In Hyuk Suh trained with the "founder"
of Hapkido, hence the common ground.

>
> i.e. the pros and cons of each art compared to each other?
>

>Thanks!
>
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>Peter White
>pwh...@remedy.com


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Chris Gamel

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Apr 21, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/21/95
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nex...@shell.portal.com (NextGen Software) wrote:
>
> I am quite interested in Kuk Sool Won and Hapkido but have only read about the
> two arts. From what I've heard, they seem quite similar with hapkido having
> more of a grappling emphasis. Is there anyone out there who has trained in both
> arts who could give me a more detailed analysis?
>
> i.e. the pros and cons of each art compared to each other?
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Peter White
> pwh...@remedy.com

> Peter,
>
> I have currently been training in Kuk-Sool-Wan for the past 8 months.
> While I have never taken Hapkido, I have spent a bit of time around
> people who have, so I know the basics of the style. All in all, you are
> right. The two styles are very similar, with Kuk-Sool-Wan tracing its
> origins from Hapkido (and 31 other styles). As to the differences, Hapkido
> is a harder style which emphesizes both kicking and grappling. It used
> very linear movements, and uses leverage to take down and control the
> opponent. Kuk-Sool-Wan, on the other hand, also most of its emphesis on
> kicks and takedowns. However, it is a softer art (using more circular
> techniques) and relies much more on joint locks and pressure points to
> control the opponent. Which method you perfer is really a personal choice.
> Hapkido will require more strength, but it is probably a little easier
> to get in the beginning. Kuk-Sool-Wan requires less strength, but has a
> great number of intricacies which make it more difficult to master. If
> you are thinking about training, go watch a class and look at two things.
> One: do you like how the instructor teaches? Two: Are the upper belts
> (red, brown, and black) good? Also, if it is a Kuk-Sool-Wan instructor I
> can get you a phone number to see if he/she is registered with the world
> Kuk-Sool-Wan asso., all legit instructors are suppost to be.
>
> Chris Gamel

Oscar A. Cabrera

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Apr 22, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/22/95
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Hello, Mr. Gamel. Let me be the first to say that you're full of it!

Just kidding, buddy! Glad you made it to the MA board.

Now, here's a question for you:

What is the best strike?

Which is best? Hard or soft?


(Hint: Look at Jet Lee's "Fist of Legend")

On a separate note, you'll be glad to know I'm safely into the second
set of Praying Mantis. I showed you PART of the first set when I was
down in Texas, and I finished it when I came back. Well, Salud!


Your Shaolin brother,


Oscar C.

NextGen Software

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Apr 24, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/24/95
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First of all, I'd like to thank everyone who has given me feedback on this
subject on this thread and via email! I visited Fremont Kuk Sool Won last
Saturday and was quite impressed with what I saw. I was surprised by the
complexity of the white-belt forms which left me wanting to see more. The class
I saw turned out to be mostly children so I plan to visit an adult class during
the week to see how the training differs. I'd also like to visit a Hapkido
school but I haven't found one in the Fremont/Hayward/Union City area. I know
there's quite a few schools in the Berkeley & S.F. areas but I'm looking for
something a little closer...

Thanks!

Peter

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