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the braniac

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Oct 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/20/98
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My style is called Kama Sutra. It's a noble grappling art and better
than all other styles around. It's also way more addictive.

bye

Piet Arendsoog

DREW

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Oct 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/20/98
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You must have hit the wrong group, this is RMA, but since your posting...

I'm sure your looking forward to the day you find a grappling partner,
sounds like you've just been doing forms so far.

--
DREW
"Actually it's a buck and a quarter quarter staff"

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Garth Wallace

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Oct 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/20/98
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Michelle Magness wrote:
>
> Excuse my ignorance, but I thought Karma Sutra had something to do with
> tantric sex................
>
> the braniac wrote in message <362D07...@usa.net>...

> >My style is called Kama Sutra. It's a noble grappling art and better
> >than all other styles around. It's also way more addictive.

Don't bother the troll right now. He's busy practicing hand techniques
on his "little uke"!

----- "I am not a number! I am a free man!" -------
- The Prisoner*

*or a USC student

Michelle Magness

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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Excuse my ignorance, but I thought Karma Sutra had something to do with
tantric sex................

the braniac wrote in message <362D07...@usa.net>...
>My style is called Kama Sutra. It's a noble grappling art and better
>than all other styles around. It's also way more addictive.
>

>bye
>
>Piet Arendsoog

Andy Goodwin

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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good point i would have to agree about the power of sex but i have never
found a school of Kama Sutra if i could i would attend class daily

Andy

--
-As the Professor Wally J might say, "No pain,
no pain..."

the braniac <the.b...@usa.net> wrote in article

Andy Goodwin

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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LAMO

Andy
--
-As the Professor Wally J might say, "No pain,
no pain..."

Garth Wallace <gwal...@usc.edu> wrote in article
<362D7F64...@usc.edu>...


> Michelle Magness wrote:
> >
> > Excuse my ignorance, but I thought Karma Sutra had something to do with
> > tantric sex................
> >

> > the braniac wrote in message <362D07...@usa.net>...


> > >My style is called Kama Sutra. It's a noble grappling art and better
> > >than all other styles around. It's also way more addictive.
>

Jason Lawrence Stauff

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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Well,

You have to go to Nevada. There are many kama sutra dojos in that area.
The form is so full of power and mistery that it has been outlawed in most
states. One of the traditional weopons used in this style is the deadly
bokki bo. Oh, yes, you will find that it is as expencive as BJJ.
----------
In article <01bdfcc7$f1194ae0$5620480c@default>, "Andy Goodwin"


<rbbr...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>good point i would have to agree about the power of sex but i have never
>found a school of Kama Sutra if i could i would attend class daily
>

>Andy
>
>--
>-As the Professor Wally J might say, "No pain,
>no pain..."
>

>the braniac <the.b...@usa.net> wrote in article

><362D07...@usa.net>...
>> My style is called Kama Sutra. It's a noble grappling art and better
>> than all other styles around. It's also way more addictive.
>>

>> bye
>>
>> Piet Arendsoog
>>

Sgt. John M. Stryker

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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the braniac wrote:
>
> My style is called Kama Sutra. It's a noble grappling art and better
> than all other styles around. It's also way more addictive.

Apparently, so are those inhalants you've been sniffing lately.

Sgt. Stryker

the braniac

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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Kama Sutra is the art of love making. Love is a strong thing.
This is a joke we have in the Dojo when we discuss various styles.
Well you got it, congratulations.
PS I don't snigff anything. THere are better ways to get stuff in like
injecting

bye
THE BRANIAC

Andy Goodwin

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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LAMO

Andy
--
-As the Professor Wally J might say, "No pain,
no pain..."

Jason Lawrence Stauff <j...@jps.net> wrote in article
<362d9...@blushng.jps.net>...


> Well,
>
> You have to go to Nevada. There are many kama sutra dojos in that area.
> The form is so full of power and mistery that it has been outlawed in
most
> states. One of the traditional weopons used in this style is the deadly
> bokki bo. Oh, yes, you will find that it is as expencive as BJJ.
> ----------
> In article <01bdfcc7$f1194ae0$5620480c@default>, "Andy Goodwin"
> <rbbr...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >good point i would have to agree about the power of sex but i have never
> >found a school of Kama Sutra if i could i would attend class daily
> >
> >Andy
> >
> >--
> >-As the Professor Wally J might say, "No pain,
> >no pain..."
> >
> >the braniac <the.b...@usa.net> wrote in article
> ><362D07...@usa.net>...

> >> My style is called Kama Sutra. It's a noble grappling art and better
> >> than all other styles around. It's also way more addictive.
> >>

> >> bye
> >>
> >> Piet Arendsoog
> >>
>

Darci and Darcy

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Oct 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/23/98
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When are ppl going to wake up here there is no one Martial Art better
than the other. They all have there strong points and week points. Its
the person behind the art that counts not the art itself.

Darcy

Dave Murray

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Oct 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/23/98
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I think that you failed to grasp the humor. Perhaps you should go to a
library out book store and see what the Kama Sutra is. It is the best
style, without a doubt.

Cheers,
Dave

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James F Cornwall

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Oct 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/23/98
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Dave Murray (dlmu...@micro-net.com) wrote:
: I think that you failed to grasp the humor. Perhaps you should go to a

: library out book store and see what the Kama Sutra is. It is the best
: style, without a doubt.

Absolutely the best style! Never get enough practice time, though! ;-)

: Cheers,
: Dave

: >

Charles Kindall

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Oct 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/23/98
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I think the most important failure is that of a 3rd grade spelling error in
the word week. It is spelled weak..
Besides "there is only one martial art, until I grow another arm from my
chest it is the study of War" (paraphrased from the late Bruce Lee)..you
wouldn't say Arts of painting or painting arts...it is all painting?
"Karate" is just a watered down version of a more advanced "thing" like
surealism or impressionism or even oil/finger painting. Take a philosophy
lesson. We all have the same abilities. There is no such thing as Martial
Arts (plural) it is style that makes us different. And it becomes our's
inherently when we take it on. It no longer exists as my art but as yours.
Art cannot be better than Art. And since style is from art it too cannot be
better than itself. But it is we who must discover in our own sense of
reality what is benificial. This is the meaning of the word Art. It is
either appreciated or not.
BTW: There is a 6 yr old kid I know that makes $800 for his
Fingerpaintings...

>: I think that you failed to grasp the humor. Perhaps you should go to
>: a library out book store and see what the Kama Sutra is. It is the best
>: style, without a doubt.
>

FB

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Oct 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/24/98
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Charles Kindall wrote:

> I think the most important failure is that of a 3rd grade spelling error in
> the word week. It is spelled weak..
> Besides "there is only one martial art, until I grow another arm from my
> chest it is the study of War" (paraphrased from the late Bruce Lee)..you
> wouldn't say Arts of painting or painting arts...it is all painting?
> "Karate" is just a watered down version of a more advanced "thing" like
> surealism or impressionism or even oil/finger painting. Take a philosophy
> lesson. We all have the same abilities. There is no such thing as Martial
> Arts (plural) it is style that makes us different. And it becomes our's
> inherently when we take it on. It no longer exists as my art but as yours.
> Art cannot be better than Art. And since style is from art it too cannot be
> better than itself.

That sounds fine and good, but it does not apply to martial art. Your argument
breaks down when you're talking about an "art" that is designed to
physically/psychologically defeat a hostile opponent. In other words, an oil
painting is not created to serve any real world goal. It is in every sense,
"art for art's sake". There is no way or need to test it against other oil
paintings.

But martial art does not exist for its own sake. It exists to serve real
ends. Granted, we like to take something that is real-world and tangible and
turn it into something lofty and sublime. But that is just our fanciful
complex upper brain doing its thing. It doesn't change the fact of what is.

You can take something like baking bread, and call it an art. The art of
baking bread. Say some baker named Henry does it real well. Fine. He's a
master in the art of baking bread. But let's not forget that bread still only
exists because people like to eat it -- not because some notions of "art" made
it an end in itself.

The Bruce Lee quote was his way of saying that everything you do in martial art
follows from discernible facts about the human body. e.g. The punch is based
on the mechanics and structure of the human hand, arm, spine, legs, etc. Or,
as I often tell my students, the study of martial art is ultimately the study
of human physiology and animal psychology. A different physiology would yield
different mechanics, etc.

But martial art is fighting. Anyone who maintains that, no, martial art is not
fighting is running from the truth. Too many people think that the goal of
training in martial art is for recreation, or fitness, or self-esteem, or
whatever. No doubt, you may get these things from training in martial art, but
that doesn't change the fact that martial art is rooted in fighting. Fighting
came first -- our first cause, if you will -- and martial art is the way the
human body and mind adapt to this fact.

So, with this in mind: If you start to "like" things; If you start to have
"preferences"; If you develop "biases" for this over that -- then what you
call "martial art" is really just a neurosis. IOW, the only thing you should
"like" in martial art is what is most functional. This is not dancing. People
tend to think it is, and so the foxtrot is equal to the waltz. That's where
your "art" argument leaves us.


FB

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Oct 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/24/98
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FB wrote:

One more thing. It pertains to why all arts are not created equally (this has to
do with how they evolve, but we'll leave that one alone for now). When you talk
about there being no "superior style", trying to say there are no superior
approaches to martial art, then your argument is untenable.

As I said before, martial art arose out of the need to solve a real-world problem.
Let's say your problem was a fire. You need to put out the fire to solve it. The
first time you encounter a fire, you happen to have a pitcher of Kool-Aid in your
hand. You pour it on the fire, and the fire goes out.

So you file that little detail away in your head -- "when I encounter fire, use
Kool-Aid to put it out". Fine. Worked last time. Probably work again.

Time goes by. You encounter another fire. Only this time, you don't have any
Kool-Aid handy. Only this jug of water. So what do you do? Well, of course, you
run back to your house, into the kitchen, and make that water into Kool-Aid so you
can run back and put out the fire. Upon returning, the fire has gotten worse, and
caused considerable damage, but your fresh-made Kool-Aid still does the trick.

Let's say next time you see a fire, it requires several trips as the fire gets
worse during the time it takes to make Kool-Aid.

The point of my story (if it's not obvious) is that some people tend to like to
stick with the first solution they ever found. Just like the Kool-Aid, it worked
the first time, and it'll probably work again. So, you don't look any further for
a better solution. But we never know in the beginning what we end up knowing down
the line. Often, the solution which accounts for more variables (i.e. solves the
problem more reliably and efficiently) is the one with little or no frills. Often,
what happens is that the basic understanding we started with is essentially true,
but it could be streamlined and made more efficient if we would only just
experiment with it honestly. This is what Lee used to call "hacking away the
unessential". The elimination of superfluity.

John Carlo

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Oct 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/24/98
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Fb, good point!


SniveKram

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Oct 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/24/98
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>Too many people think that the goal of
>training in martial art is for recreation, or fitness, or self-esteem, or
>whatever. No doubt, you may get these things from training in martial art,
>but
>that doesn't change the fact that martial art is rooted in fighting.

Ones goals regarding any activity are ones own. If someone studies an art for
recreation, fitness, self-esteem or whatever, that is their business. Yes,
martial arts are rooted in fighting, but the root is not the whole plant. If we
wish to maintain martial arts as a pure fighting art, we should take up pistols
and target practice. Very efficient means of winning a fight. As a fire hose
is superior to a pitcher of kool-aid, so a .357 magnum is superior to a loud
yell and "karate chop". Perhaps we can take it to the logical (but
unreasonable) extreme of just shooting everyone who looks at us funny. Win the
fight before anyone thinks of attacking us.
However....how many of us really go out looking for fights? How many of us
train to fight in unarmed hand to hand combat as a proffesion? How many of us
are proffessional tough guys? Some, i'm sure, but the overall percentage isn't
that great.
So relax...enjoy the forms, play with the weapons, have fun with the
sparring and pick your own goal.
If you want to learn to fight, fine. Go fight. If you want to win tournements,
go enter all the tournements you can. If you want fitness, fellowship, stress
relief....whatever, pick a gym, dojo, boxing gym or whatever you wish and
enjoy.

regards


mark evins
do it again....14 times....good....do it again....14 times.....good....do it
again....14 times......

Brian

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Oct 25, 1998, 2:00:00 AM10/25/98
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Is there a class about I could watch?

Brian


Otter

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Oct 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/28/98
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Michelle Magness wrote:
>
> Excuse my ignorance, but I thought Karma Sutra had something to do with
> tantric sex................
>
> the braniac wrote in message <362D07...@usa.net>...
> >My style is called Kama Sutra. It's a noble grappling art and better
> >than all other styles around. It's also way more addictive.

You thought right! (I don't about the "tantric" part, though.)
Braniac's post still is appropriate, dontcha think? :)

-- Otter

-- Otter

Michelle Magness

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Oct 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/29/98
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See that's why I'm a thai boxer.....nothing complicated, no strange
names..........

Otter wrote in message <36373CB5...@mich.REMOVEcom>...

Richard Lancashire

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Oct 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/29/98
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Michelle Magness wrote:
>
> See that's why I'm a thai boxer.....nothing complicated, no strange
> names...

...but no tantric sex, either.

:oP
Rich

Otter

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Oct 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/29/98
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I'm sure thai boxing is very effective, and worth studying. But given
the choice of practicing "thai boxing" or "kama sutra"...well, the
choice isn't difficult for me :)

-- Otter

Michelle Magness wrote:
>
> See that's why I'm a thai boxer.....nothing complicated, no strange

Richard Lancashire

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Oct 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/29/98
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Otter wrote:
>
> I'm sure thai boxing is very effective, and worth studying. But given
> the choice of practicing "thai boxing" or "kama sutra"...well, the
> choice isn't difficult for me :)

Hell, just compare the conditioning exercises...

:oP
Rich

Michelle Magness

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Oct 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/30/98
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Hey, who said my life revolves around the gym!!!

Richard Lancashire wrote in message <36384D...@ncl.ac.uk>...


>Michelle Magness wrote:
>>
>> See that's why I'm a thai boxer.....nothing complicated, no strange

Otter

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Nov 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/4/98
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I'd never be late for practice!

-- Otter

josh powell

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Nov 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/4/98
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Otter wrote in message <36407EED...@mich.REMOVEcom>...


Be warned Otter..

Kama Sutra pratices are six hours long, twice a day in order to truely
master the style. You do want to master the Kama Sutra, don't you?

josh

>
>-- Otter

braniac

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Nov 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/4/98
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Ooh please stop this threat.
I started it few weeks ago as a little joke.
A little satire to make fun of people who think they are the supreme
martial artists.
If you hadn't noticed,it was not like very serious

Braniac

Otter

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Nov 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/5/98
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Not to worry Josh, I'm up for the task....

-- Otter

josh powell

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Otter wrote in message <364193F9...@mich.REMOVEcom>...


If you're up for twelve hours a day, I know some ladies who would love to
get to know you! Super model bonus if you can wrap your feet around your
head..

josh

>
>-- Otter

Otter

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Nov 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/6/98
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josh powell wrote:
>> >> > I'm sure thai boxing is very effective, and worth studying.
But
> given
> >> >> > the choice of practicing "thai boxing" or "kama sutra"...well, the
> >> >> > choice isn't difficult for me :)
> >> >>
> >> >> Hell, just compare the conditioning exercises...
> >> >
> >> >I'd never be late for practice!
> >>
> >> Be warned Otter..
> >>
> >> Kama Sutra pratices are six hours long, twice a day in order to truely
> >> master the style. You do want to master the Kama Sutra, don't you?
> >
> >Not to worry Josh, I'm up for the task....
>
> If you're up for twelve hours a day, I know some ladies who would love to
> get to know you! Super model bonus if you can wrap your feet around your
> head..

Which he...uh, er...nevermind....(teetering on the edge)

-- Otter

Jaguar Wong

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Nov 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/8/98
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In article <mvo02.389$bt4.2...@news.teleport.com>, "josh powell"

<josh@@nbhc.org> wrote:

> If you're up for twelve hours a day, I know some ladies who would love to
> get to know you! Super model bonus if you can wrap your feet around your
> head..

It's not hard to find places to practice this. Just pick up a book on it,
read up and head to any street corner of the big cities with a wad of cash
and some protection (not a weapon). I'm sure you'll find plenty of
"instrucors" and "sparring partners" out there. Shop around first though.
If they're having a slower night they drop the prices a bit.

Jaguar Wong

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Otter

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Nov 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/11/98
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Jaguar Wong wrote:
>
> In article <mvo02.389$bt4.2...@news.teleport.com>, "josh powell"
> <josh@@nbhc.org> wrote:
>
> > If you're up for twelve hours a day, I know some ladies who would love to
> > get to know you! Super model bonus if you can wrap your feet around your
> > head..
>
> It's not hard to find places to practice this. Just pick up a book on it,
> read up and head to any street corner of the big cities with a wad of cash
> and some protection (not a weapon). I'm sure you'll find plenty of
> "instrucors" and "sparring partners" out there. Shop around first though.
> If they're having a slower night they drop the prices a bit.
>
> Jaguar Wong

Or so you heard...right, Jaguar? ;)

-- Otter

Jaguar Wong

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Nov 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/11/98
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In article <364986C2...@mich.REMOVEcom>, Otter
<ot...@mich.REMOVEcom> wrote:

uh...hehe...uh yeah I uh, heard this. Ok so I saw it on a docuemntary
about prostitution and drug dealers.

Man I don't know about you guys, but I think Las Vegas would be the worse
place to be wandering the streets looking for a Kama Sutra teacher on the
strip. That's a sure way to find out if your martial art is good against,
multiple opponents, guns and knives...at the same time.

Otter

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Nov 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/11/98
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Jaguar Wong wrote:
> > Or so you heard...right, Jaguar? ;)
>
> uh...hehe...uh yeah I uh, heard this. Ok so I saw it on a docuemntary
> about prostitution and drug dealers.
>
> Man I don't know about you guys, but I think Las Vegas would be the worse
> place to be wandering the streets looking for a Kama Sutra teacher on the
> strip. That's a sure way to find out if your martial art is good against,
> multiple opponents, guns and knives...at the same time.

No worse than any other metro area. But at least Vegas has the pretty
lights to dazzle you into a state of confusion first.

-- Otter

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