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kirks...@yourclothesoperamail.com

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May 1, 2005, 1:15:23 PM5/1/05
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Ok -

We all know that do well in any art, one must have some baseline
attributes. Be it strength, flexibility or raw doggedness, not
everyone is blessed with "great genetics" or "natural talent".

Some argue that the attributes needed to excel develop over time as a
natural process of engaging the art. Others believe in special
exercises, specific diets, magic underpants etc.

Given this, what kind of fitness regime do you follow? Do you actively
pursue ancillary training? Why do you follow this particular routine
and do you feel that it benefits or hinders you (tiredness, cutting
into training time etc)?

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hcannon

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May 1, 2005, 8:49:14 PM5/1/05
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Yes -and it helps. At my age I do a lot of rehab exercises because of my
dissolute and misspent youth.


Don Wagner

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May 1, 2005, 8:51:41 PM5/1/05
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"hcannon" <hcan...@cox.net> wrote:
>Yes -and it helps. At my age I do a lot of rehab exercises because of my
>dissolute and misspent youth.

They have rehab exercises for liver damage, a deviated septum and
"trunk-butt"?
;-)

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--Don--
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the monkey will spank us.

Fraser Johnston

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May 1, 2005, 9:02:11 PM5/1/05
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> Ok -
>
> We all know that do well in any art, one must have some baseline
> attributes. Be it strength, flexibility or raw doggedness, not
> everyone is blessed with "great genetics" or "natural talent".
>
> Some argue that the attributes needed to excel develop over time as a
> natural process of engaging the art. Others believe in special
> exercises, specific diets, magic underpants etc.
>
> Given this, what kind of fitness regime do you follow? Do you actively
> pursue ancillary training? Why do you follow this particular routine
> and do you feel that it benefits or hinders you (tiredness, cutting
> into training time etc)?

I found in BJJ that my lack of fitness was really causing me problems. My
first comp I gassed really early and it cost me a loss on points. I started
going to the gym recently and now do 3 days a week there. 2 days are
strength/cardio days with light weights high reps and the other day is a
pure strength day. Since starting I have found a definite improvement in my
BJJ game. I am also trying to diet to cut my weight to around 83 kilos so I
can cut to under 80 for comps. My diet plan is 6 small meals a day with low
fat. I am not too hung up on carbs because I tend to burn them off during
the day anyway.

Fraser


Rabid_Weasel

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May 2, 2005, 8:36:01 AM5/2/05
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kirks_bi...@YOURCLOTHESoperamail.com wrote:
> Ok -
>
> We all know that do well in any art, one must have some baseline
> attributes. Be it strength, flexibility or raw doggedness,

Sure.

> not
> everyone is blessed with "great genetics" or "natural talent".

HEY! WHO'S BEEN TALKING ABOUT ME!!!


> Others believe in ... magic underpants etc.

Look, I told you. It was only once and it was a "comfort" thing. OK?


> Given this, what kind of fitness regime do you follow? Do you actively
> pursue ancillary training? Why do you follow this particular routine
> and do you feel that it benefits or hinders you (tiredness, cutting
> into training time etc)?

Cardio and muscular endurance / Bodywieght exercises. 5 to 6 days a
week.

But I took off about 8 months from "regular" training and have effectively
flushed about 2 years worth of work. Now I'm building back up from scratch
(practically).

Use it or lose it.

Peace favor your sword (IH),
Kirk

hcannon

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May 2, 2005, 8:27:13 AM5/2/05
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> >Yes -and it helps. At my age I do a lot of rehab exercises because of my
> >dissolute and misspent youth.
>
> They have rehab exercises for liver damage, a deviated septum and
> "trunk-butt"?
> ;-)
>
I dont know. But I have a few dozen for smart asses.


T

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May 2, 2005, 11:56:16 AM5/2/05
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Rabid_Weasel wrote:


> Cardio and muscular endurance / Bodywieght exercises. 5 to 6 days a
> week.
>
> But I took off about 8 months from "regular" training and have effectively
> flushed about 2 years worth of work. Now I'm building back up from scratch
> (practically).
>
> Use it or lose it.
>
> Peace favor your sword (IH),
> Kirk
>

That's another nice thing about heavy barbell training - strength
doesn't fade very fast, and you get it back quickly after a long layoff.

T

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May 2, 2005, 11:54:46 AM5/2/05
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kirks...@YOURCLOTHESoperamail.com wrote:
> Ok -
>
> We all know that do well in any art, one must have some baseline
> attributes. Be it strength, flexibility or raw doggedness, not
> everyone is blessed with "great genetics" or "natural talent".
>
> Some argue that the attributes needed to excel develop over time as a
> natural process of engaging the art. Others believe in special
> exercises, specific diets, magic underpants etc.
>
> Given this, what kind of fitness regime do you follow? Do you actively
> pursue ancillary training? Why do you follow this particular routine
> and do you feel that it benefits or hinders you (tiredness, cutting
> into training time etc)?

I figure bjj and paintball give me enough endurance, and test that
hypothesis with a 5k twice a year. So far, so good.

So I lift, because strength is very useful and bjj doesn't seem to
develop it after the first few months. And stretch after lifting,
enough to maintain front and side splits, bridge, palms-on-floor, et
cetera. That reverse trunk twist exercise was a big help on both counts
until the rep count hit 30 or so; I don't know if being able to keep
improving it is worth the embarrassment of ankle weights. ;-)


My ruthlessness and evil are sufficiently developed by my work.

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