dit da jow
Fugazi
dan adams wrote in message <34c2054b...@news.mindspring.com>...
>looking for recipies for jow , got any ? thanks
i remember there was a jow recipe by james lacey in an old
issue of kungfu/wushu magazine, about a 2 years back.
also, if you get the book "secrets of the 7 star mantis style"
by lee kam wing, he has a recipe for his jow on the back
cover.
but, i must also warn, even if you have the recipe, unless
you are very familiar with all of the herbs, i really would not
recommend making your own jow. if only for the reason that,
when you go to buy the herbs, you must know what to look for.
very often the merchants will try to pass off inferior merchandise.
by inferior, i mean, an example would be for an root called
ting chut, the older it is the more potent it is, also the larger it is
the more desirable it is also. this is one of the main ingredients
of the over 30 different herbs; almost without fail, the merchant will
try to pass off the young ones that are not as potent. (even to my
kung fu teacher.) same story for many of the other herbs also.
you really have to know what to look for to make the best jow.
also, after the herbs are bought and ground up, they still must
be left to sit in the alcohol/water/oil, depending on the recipe for at
least six months; preferable 1 - 1 1/2 years.
i say you would be better off just buying it from somewhere.
** an additional note. some jows are used for very recent wounds
while others are more for older wounds.
** also there is a big difference between kwong loon oil, or
generic type analgesic balms and jow. they are not the same thing.
those other things are just chinese ben gay. also, there are different
jows to use for the training of iron palm... this is something that should
definitely not be taken up without qualified instruction.
if you are having a very hard time getting jow, i would recommend lee
kam wing's wisest oil, as something you can get in many martial arts stores.
it is generally used on older wounds, but works pretty good on fresh bruises
too. a 4 oz bottle generally should go for about 10 bucks. definitely stay
away from the fu jow pai linament.. that stuff sucks. and i really don't
know about brain gray's iron palm linament.
i smelled that stuff, and it smelled more like alcohol than potent herbs to
me.
if you really want to get some quality jow, for recent injuries, you can
contact me by email and i'll work something out with you.
***note: jow is not to be used on open wounds, as it is an
anticoagulent, with a few mildly toxic ingredients...for external use only.
tiet...@msn.com
dan adams
li tung chueng sao
On Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:21:31 -0500, "Fugazi" <tiet...@email.msn.com>
wrote:
>
>dan adams wrote in message <34c2054b...@news.mindspring.com>...
>>looking for recipies for jow , got any ? thanks
>
> i remember there was a jow recipe by james lacey in an old
>issue of kungfu/wushu magazine, about a 2 years back.
The one with cockroaches in it?
>also, if you get the book "secrets of the 7 star mantis style"
>by lee kam wing, he has a recipe for his jow on the back
Noted.
> also, after the herbs are bought and ground up, they still must
>be left to sit in the alcohol/water/oil, depending on the recipe for at
>least six months; preferable 1 - 1 1/2 years.
This is the traditional way. However, not the best as far as
extractions go. Think how expensive essential oils would be if they
used those methods on roots and barks.
I dont recommend purchasing a few hundred dollars worth of equipment
and pressure cookers to cut time by about 80% however.
> i say you would be better off just buying it from somewhere.
If you can get it locally and not through mail order with shipping and
handling and minimum orders. And at a decent price.
> if you are having a very hard time getting jow, i would recommend lee
>kam wing's wisest oil, as something you can get in many martial arts stores.
Oil for iron palm?
>it is generally used on older wounds, but works pretty good on fresh bruises
>too. a 4 oz bottle generally should go for about 10 bucks. definitely stay
>away from the fu jow pai linament.. that stuff sucks. and i really don't
Why didnt you like tak wah's formula? My thoughts on it is that it
absorbed like a motherfucker. What the hell was that? Ether?
>know about brain gray's iron palm linament.
>i smelled that stuff, and it smelled more like alcohol than potent herbs to
>me.
Forget brian gray.
> if you really want to get some quality jow, for recent injuries, you can
>contact me by email and i'll work something out with you.
>***note: jow is not to be used on open wounds, as it is an
>anticoagulent, with a few mildly toxic ingredients...for external use only.
>tiet...@msn.com
>
>
>
"When Chinese martial arts were imported to Japan, kicking and
punching became Karate (The Dao of Barehand), wrestling became
the root of Judo (The Dao of Softness), and Qin Na built the
foundation of Jujitsu (The Dao of Soft Techniques). Later, the
combination of Judo and Jujitsu became today's Aikido (The Dao of
Harmonizing Qi)." Dr. yang wing-ming
Kung fu and groundfighting:
http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/4098/ground.html
Don Wagner
bill...@juno.com (li tung chueng sao) wrote:
>On Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:21:31 -0500, "Fugazi" <tiet...@email.msn.com>
>wrote:
>>
>>dan adams wrote in message <34c2054b...@news.mindspring.com>...
>>>looking for recipies for jow , got any ? thanks
>>
>> i remember there was a jow recipe by james lacey in an old
>>issue of kungfu/wushu magazine, about a 2 years back.
>The one with cockroaches in it?
I don't like the other, optional source of protein.
;-)
--Don--
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
Richard Lancashire
Don Wagner wrote:
> >> i remember there was a jow recipe by james lacey in an old
> >>issue of kungfu/wushu magazine, about a 2 years back.
>
> >The one with cockroaches in it?
>
> I don't like the other, optional source of protein.
> ;-)
I don't know, some people really throw themselves into their martial
arts...
I'm so tempted to start a puns thread, but I just can't bring myself to
do it.
:oP
Rich
Kevin Hill
Richard Lancashire wrote
>I'm so tempted to start a puns thread, but I just can't bring myself to
>do it.
Thank you, thank you, thank youthankyouthankyou
(falls to knees weeping)
...Oh YES YES YES there is a god.....
(sniff)
:O)
ekvin
li tung chueng sao
On Wed, 21 Jan 1998 00:25:41 GMT, dawa...@ix.netcom.com (Don Wagner)
wrote:
>bill...@juno.com (li tung chueng sao) wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:21:31 -0500, "Fugazi" <tiet...@email.msn.com>
>>wrote:
>
>>>
>>>dan adams wrote in message <34c2054b...@news.mindspring.com>...
>>>>looking for recipies for jow , got any ? thanks
>>>
>>> i remember there was a jow recipe by james lacey in an old
>>>issue of kungfu/wushu magazine, about a 2 years back.
>
>>The one with cockroaches in it?
>
>I don't like the other, optional source of protein.
>;-)
Oh... The dried dog penis? Or the lizard parts?
>--Don--
>The beatings will continue until morale improves.
>
"When Chinese martial arts were imported to Japan, kicking and
Don Wagner
Richard Lancashire <r.b.lan...@ncl.ac.uk> wrote:
>I don't know, some people really throw themselves into their martial
>arts...
>I'm so tempted to start a puns thread, but I just can't bring myself to
>do it.
>:oP
>Rich
So let it be written, so let it be done!
We really should toss this thread out the window. Be careful it
doesnt blow back at us though.
Richard Lancashire
Don Wagner wrote:
> Richard Lancashire wrote:
> >I don't know, some people really throw themselves into their martial
> >arts...
>
> >I'm so tempted to start a puns thread, but I just can't bring myself to
> >do it.
> We really should toss this thread out the window. Be careful it
> doesnt blow back at us though.
On your head be it, Don. I knew if I stuck around long enough this
thread would jerk back to life.
:oP
Rich
mag...@gte.net
On Thu, 22 Jan 1998 12:53:22 GMT, dawa...@ix.netcom.com (Don Wagner)
wrote:
>Richard Lancashire <r.b.lan...@ncl.ac.uk> wrote:
>>I don't know, some people really throw themselves into their martial
>>arts...
>
>>I'm so tempted to start a puns thread, but I just can't bring myself to
>>do it.
>>:oP
>>Rich
>
>So let it be written, so let it be done!
Wait, are you guys saying his formula had, err, other bodily fluids in
them?
mag...@gte.net
On Fri, 23 Jan 1998 01:06:02 GMT, dawa...@ix.netcom.com (Don Wagner)
wrote:
>Richard Lancashire <r.b.lan...@ncl.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>>Don Wagner wrote:
>>> Richard Lancashire wrote:
>
>>> >I don't know, some people really throw themselves into their martial
>>> >arts...
>>>
>>> >I'm so tempted to start a puns thread, but I just can't bring myself to
>>> >do it.
>
>>> We really should toss this thread out the window. Be careful it
>>> doesnt blow back at us though.
>
>>On your head be it, Don. I knew if I stuck around long enough this
>>thread would jerk back to life.
>>:oP
>>Rich
>
>Of crowning impotence in any thread is the avoidance of any premature
>eruption or discharging of unwanted information. Cum hell or high
>water, I'll try to avoid that.
Oh, my, thats what I thought. Jizz consider this thread terminated.
Eric Berge
In Article<6a8qk0$n...@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com>, <dawa...@ix.netcom.com>
writes:
> >On your head be it, Don. I knew if I stuck around long enough this
> >thread would jerk back to life.
> >:oP
> >Rich
>
> Of crowning impotence in any thread is the avoidance of any premature
> eruption or discharging of unwanted information. Cum hell or high
> water, I'll try to avoid that.
That's it, Don - show some spunk. You're the cream of the rma crop.
Eric Berge
Don Wagner
Richard Lancashire <r.b.lan...@ncl.ac.uk> wrote:
>Don Wagner wrote:
>> Richard Lancashire wrote:
>> >I don't know, some people really throw themselves into their martial
>> >arts...
>>
>> >I'm so tempted to start a puns thread, but I just can't bring myself to
>> >do it.
>> We really should toss this thread out the window. Be careful it
>> doesnt blow back at us though.
>On your head be it, Don. I knew if I stuck around long enough this
>thread would jerk back to life.
>:oP
>Rich
Of crowning impotence in any thread is the avoidance of any premature
eruption or discharging of unwanted information. Cum hell or high
water, I'll try to avoid that.
Stephen Havelka
mag...@gte.net and many others wrote:
: >>> We really should toss this thread out the window. Be careful it
: >>> doesnt blow back at us though.
: >
: >>On your head be it, Don. I knew if I stuck around long enough this
: >>thread would jerk back to life.
: >>:oP
: >>Rich
: >
: >Of crowning impotence in any thread is the avoidance of any premature
: >eruption or discharging of unwanted information. Cum hell or high
: >water, I'll try to avoid that.
: Oh, my, thats what I thought. Jizz consider this thread terminated.
Hold on, before you start spewing about the subject, grab onto the
proper facts or they'll spring back up to dribble on your parade.
mag...@gte.net
On Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:38:06 +0000, Richard Lancashire
<r.b.lan...@ncl.ac.uk> wrote:
>Don Wagner wrote:
>
>> >> i remember there was a jow recipe by james lacey in an old
>> >>issue of kungfu/wushu magazine, about a 2 years back.
>>
>> >The one with cockroaches in it?
>>
>> I don't like the other, optional source of protein.
>> ;-)
>
>I don't know, some people really throw themselves into their martial
>arts...
>
>I'm so tempted to start a puns thread, but I just can't bring myself to
>do it.
>
>:oP
>Rich
There are many oozing with enthusiasm for this kind of training.
Unfortunatly for them many pull out early. Cultivating patience and
learining the proper timing and focus for this kind of training will
have you headed in the right direction.
In my opinion the methods involving thrusting are superior. More
power can be genetrated from the hips and waist.
mag...@gte.net
>Don Wagner wrote:
>
>> >> i remember there was a jow recipe by james lacey in an old
>> >>issue of kungfu/wushu magazine, about a 2 years back.
>>
>> >The one with cockroaches in it?
>>
>> I don't like the other, optional source of protein.
>> ;-)
>
>I don't know, some people really throw themselves into their martial
>arts...
>
>I'm so tempted to start a puns thread, but I just can't bring myself to
>do it.
>
>:oP
>Rich
Pun threads come and go. I'm glad we took my advice and decided to
terminate the pun thread before things got out of hand. I myself had
to reach deep down and bring out the strength needed to avoid starting
another pun thread.
bill...@juno.com
bill...@juno.com
>Don Wagner wrote:
>
>> >> i remember there was a jow recipe by james lacey in an old
>> >>issue of kungfu/wushu magazine, about a 2 years back.
>>
>> >The one with cockroaches in it?
>>
>> I don't like the other, optional source of protein.
>> ;-)
>
>I don't know, some people really throw themselves into their martial
>arts...
>
>I'm so tempted to start a puns thread, but I just can't bring myself to
>do it.
>
>:oP
>Rich
There are many oozing with enthusiasm for this kind of training.
Unfortunatly for them many pull out early. Cultivating patience and
learining the proper timing and focus for this kind of training will
have you headed in the right direction.
In my opinion the methods involving thrusting are superior. More
power can be genetrated from the hips and waist.