Re: NY TIMES: Mandated Food Rationing in the USA
Herbert Cannon
Mark Goldberg
> You title is very misleading. But then what is one to expect from you.
>
>
Mark
h...@nospam.org
<oliver....@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Apr 24, 8:03 pm, "Herbert Cannon" <hcanno...@cox.net> wrote:
>> You title is very misleading. But then what is one to expect from you.
>
>Accurate explanations and prescient predictions, all of which (so far)
>have come true.
>
>if I were you I would be taking notes.
>
>Then again, you're the kind of person to turn a blind eye to anything
>which isn't comfortable.
Herb will do nothing then when caught with his pants down, blame the
Democrats for everything.
Hal
Herbert Cannon
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>
> have come true.
>
> if I were you I would be taking notes.
>
> Then again, you're the kind of person to turn a blind eye to anything
> which isn't comfortable.
>
where I am:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/17/business/worldbusiness/17warm.html?scp=9&sq=Australia&st=nyt
Herbert Cannon
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You mean like you blame the Republicans for everything. Such projection.
Look in your mirror.
Herbert Cannon
> On Apr 24, 9:37 pm, "Herbert Cannon" <hcanno...@cox.net> wrote:
>> "Renli" <oliver.rich...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> I know. There's plenty of water and rice where I am too, Herb.
>
> I know. It's okay. There's nothing wrong where I am too.
>
> That's why I'm worried. Times are always good. Until they're not...
Try to become a warrior and not a worrier. Much more fun. You get to pillage
and rape.
Herbert Cannon
> Enlightened Zen Master, I have risen above such paltry needs. Yes, I
> know that in saying I am an Enlightend Zen Master I cause jealousy in
> countless hearts and minds - however, if those same hearts and minds
> could only realize that the jealousy was local to their heat and mind
> they would suddenly become enlightened. So it's really up to you, will
> you allow hatred to purposelessly well up within you, or do you want
> what most do not?
Ok then you will be pillaged and raped.
Herbert Cannon
> or rape does not mean I am stupid or weak, Herb.
>
> I have spent a very long time accounting for people *just* *like*
> *you*.
Keep contemplating your navel.
trav...@aol.com
> "Renli" <oliver.rich...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Try Costco.
Trav
Herbert Cannon
> If there IS a food crisis, it will be instructive to observe who is
> forced to stop posting to r.m-a.
Dont get my hopes up.
Herbert Cannon
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Try Costco.
Dont need to. My wife bought a ton a rice to feed a bunch of shooters with a
gumbo. We still have a ton left over. Would you like some?
Mark Goldberg
trav...@aol.com
> > where I
> > am:http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/17/business/worldbusiness/17warm.html?...
>
> Try Costco.
>
> Dont need to. My wife bought a ton a rice to feed a bunch of shooters with a
You just claimed there is no shortage, yet I refuted it.
Now you tell me you have plenty. Whatever, maggot. You don't want to
acknowledge what's going on, fine. It doesn't matter to me either
way. You'll die along with hal.
Trav
Herbert Cannon
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>> > If I were you I would broaden my horizons a bit. Plenty of water and
>> > rice
>> > where I
>> > am:http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/17/business/worldbusiness/17warm.html?...
>>
>> Try Costco.
>>
>> Dont need to. My wife bought a ton a rice to feed a bunch of shooters
>> with a
>> gumbo. We still have a ton left over. Would you like some?-
>
> You just claimed there is no shortage, yet I refuted it.
No shortage here. Are you here?
>
> Now you tell me you have plenty.
Yup.
Whatever, maggot.
Feast on your dead flesh.
You don't want to
> acknowledge what's going on, fine. It doesn't matter to me either
> way. You'll die along with hal.
I am beginning to think you dont stand a chance against even Hal. What a
fall. With me you will never see it coming.
Shava_X
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/24/business/24rice.html?_r=1&ref=business&oref=slogin
Costco, and Sam's Club, are limiting BULK purchases of some types of
imported rice. And Costco is apparently only doing this at "some" stores.
2 warehouse stores, limiting how many 20 pound bags of imported rice a
person can purchase at one time, that is a long way off from a crisis.
Try Your local Asian grocery. You will probably be able to get a 40 pound
bag for about the same price.
Herbert Cannon
trav...@aol.com
> Costco, and Sam's Club, are limiting BULK purchases of some types of
> imported rice. And Costco is apparently only doing this at "some" stores.
>
> 2 warehouse stores, limiting how many 20 pound bags of imported rice a
> person can purchase at one time, that is a long way off from a crisis.
>
> Try Your local Asian grocery. You will probably be able to get a 40 pound
> bag for about the same price.
Huh?
I am not saying there is a rice shortage HERE.
But, there IS food rationing, albeit of a virtually trivial scale NOW.
Those who DENY that there is any problem at all, whilst people
actually die in riots over freaking FOOD, are the ones you need to
focus your attention on. A ration at Costco over rice is
unprecedented yet you write it off. No big deal, huh?
WTH is the matter with you people...it's like the crisis has to be on
YOUR DOORSTEP for there to be a crisis at all. Do some research on
inflation and food prices and the wide range of localities in which
there have been price riots. They've even occurred in G7 countries
for fuck's sake!
All while you guys deny, deny, deny that there's any problem at all.
Is it so apocryphal to you people to even ADMIT the possibility that
there could be a problem, a SYSTEMIC problem with the world economy,
with inflation, with oil production, with ANYthing? Is it really so
frightening that you would rather persist in denial of it?
Those who are in the deepest denial are the ones who can understand
the consequences should what they wish to be untrue actually be true.
Herbort won't see any problem until HE personally is starving.
Trav
Herbert Cannon
Ok brain boy. So what is your plan. Aramageddon or temporary crisis? How do
you plan to survive it? You have bellyached enough. Now tell us what a
genius does. Cause I am pretty well prepared for a temporary crisis, brain
boy. How about you? Got guns? Got ammo? Got water storage when the city
pumps go out? Got MREs on hand? Got farming tools? Got seeds? Got a place to
go? Got anything other than your panic?
I bet you dont.
Herbert Cannon
> On Apr 26, 11:47 am, "travis...@aol.cominyrface" <travis...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Those who are in the deepest denial are the ones who can understand
>> the consequences should what they wish to be untrue actually be true.
>> Herbort won't see any problem until HE personally is starving.
>
> funnier.
>
Ollie the Tuna. Gonna survive by contemplating his navel. Now that is funny.
Shava_X
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/24/business/24rice.html?_r=1&ref=busin...
>> Costco, and Sam's Club, are limiting BULK purchases of some types of
>> imported rice. And Costco is apparently only doing this at "some"
>> stores.
>>
>> 2 warehouse stores, limiting how many 20 pound bags of imported rice a
>> person can purchase at one time, that is a long way off from a crisis.
>>
>> Try Your local Asian grocery. You will probably be able to get a 40
>> pound bag for about the same price.
>
> Huh?
>
> I am not saying there is a rice shortage HERE.
>
> But, there IS food rationing, albeit of a virtually trivial scale NOW.
>
> ...
i don't deny that there is a serious problem with inflation of staple food
prices, and the availability of rice in particular, but to call what is
going on int the U.S. "rationing" is absurd and simply untrue.
Have You ever had to deal with rationing? Real rationing? i have.
Costco and Sam's Club putting a limit on the number of 20 pound bags of
imported rice a person can buy on a single trip through store is a far cry
from rationing. As long as You have money and are willing to make
multiple trips between the store and Your vehicle, and/or come back the
next day to repeat that process, You can still buy as much rice as Your
want. If You go to a different store, like Your local Asian grocery, You
will be able to walk out with carts filled with 40 pound bags of rice.
And there is no restriction of any kind on domestic rice. You can buy as
much Minute Rice on a single trip as You please. That is not rationing.
When the government imposes measures to limit the total number of bags of
rice (imported or not) that a person can purchase during a week or month,
and takes measures to enforce that restriction, That is rationing.
Grocery stores routinely limit the number of packages of soda-pop a person
can buy in a single trip when they are on sale. Are You going to claim
that flavored sugar water is being rationed?
trav...@aol.com
> prices, and the availability of rice in particular, but to call what is
> going on int the U.S. "rationing" is absurd and simply untrue.
No, it is NOT, merely because it is not the most SEVERE form of
rationing that could be contemplated! Rationing is not a BINARY term.
> Have You ever had to deal with rationing? Real rationing? i have.
> Costco and Sam's Club putting a limit on the number of 20 pound bags of
> imported rice a person can buy on a single trip through store is a far cry
> from rationing. As long as You have money and are willing to make
> multiple trips between the store and Your vehicle, and/or come back the
> next day to repeat that process, You can still buy as much rice as Your
> want. If You go to a different store, like Your local Asian grocery, You
> will be able to walk out with carts filled with 40 pound bags of rice.
Sigh...there's simply no getting through to any of you. You know what
the coalmine canary was, right?
Or are you going to wait until the entire 1st floor is underwater
before you acknowledge the flood?
> And there is no restriction of any kind on domestic rice. You can buy as
> much Minute Rice on a single trip as You please. That is not rationing.
really, it's not? WOW...I never would have guessed that there was no
rationing on minute rice seeing as I had never suggested that there
was
> When the government imposes measures to limit the total number of bags of
> rice (imported or not) that a person can purchase during a week or month,
> and takes measures to enforce that restriction, That is rationing.
>
> Grocery stores routinely limit the number of packages of soda-pop a person
> can buy in a single trip when they are on sale. Are You going to claim
> that flavored sugar water is being rationed?
That is for a completely different reason and you know it. Anti-
cherrypicking caps are not the same as this. Stop making stupid
comparisons.
Trav
Gernot Hassenpflug
Note that in Pakistan "the police have stepped in to prevent
hoarding".
Face it, the rules will get changed. This is a euphemism for "those in
power will simply take what they want when the time comes and tell
everyone else to suffer together equally and kill those that exploit them".
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Bad user karma.
Shava_X
You are the one make stupid, idiotic, and absolutely ridiculous
comparisons. Rationing may not be a 'binary' term, but that does not mean
You get to apply any definition You wish to it. There are absolutely no
restriction on the total amount of rice a person in the U.S. can purchase.
Two, and ONLY two chain store have put a minor restriction on how many
bulk bags of imported rice a person may purchase on a single trip through
the check-out (and done so for the same reason they restrict the number
of sale items a person can purchase at a single time). The person can
still purchase all the rice they want, they just have to put forth a
little more effort, or go to a different store. That in no way meets any
definition of the term 'rationing'.
That canary You mentioned may certainly be ill, But You are trying to
claim that tunnel is already collapsing.
If You actually want anyone to take You seriously in any way, stop
screaming the the sky is falling when it clearly is not.
trav...@aol.com
> comparisons. Rationing may not be a 'binary' term, but that does not mean
I haven't made ANY comparisons, idiot! Not a single ONE.
> You get to apply any definition You wish to it. There are absolutely no
> restriction on the total amount of rice a person in the U.S. can purchase.
> Two, and ONLY two chain store have put a minor restriction on how many
> bulk bags of imported rice a person may purchase on a single trip through
> the check-out (and done so for the same reason they restrict the number
> of sale items a person can purchase at a single time). The person can
> still purchase all the rice they want, they just have to put forth a
> little more effort, or go to a different store. That in no way meets any
> definition of the term 'rationing'.
Sure it does. Look the fucking thing UP if you do not believe me.
> That canary You mentioned may certainly be ill, But You are trying to
> claim that tunnel is already collapsing.
I have made NO SUCH CLAIMS. I defy you to point to where I did!
I have said ONLY that there is a problem, one which you seem unwilling
to admit!
> If You actually want anyone to take You seriously in any way, stop
> screaming the the sky is falling when it clearly is not.
You freaking idiot...I have not even raised my voice even if I was
saying the sky is falling.
Fuck you. People are rioting and dying over food and you call me
chicken little?
Trav
trav...@aol.com
> hoarding".
>
> Face it, the rules will get changed. This is a euphemism for "those in
> power will simply take what they want when the time comes and tell
> everyone else to suffer together equally and kill those that exploit them".
>
> --
> BOFH excuse #388:
>
> Bad user karma.
Don't tell hal that.
I have it on good authority that I am just chicken little, tho.
No problems here, nothing to see, just move along.
Trav
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>> You are the one make stupid, idiotic, and absolutely ridiculous
>> comparisons. Rationing may not be a 'binary' term, but that does
>> not mean
> I haven't made ANY comparisons, idiot! Not a single ONE<BITCHSLAP>
"But, there IS food rationing, albeit of a virtually trivial scale NOW."
That statement of yours carries explicit comparison within it. Without
comparison, "there IS food rationing" cannot be measured against "virtually
trivial scale".
> Fuck you. People are rioting and dying over food and you call me
> chicken little?
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>
> That statement of yours carries explicit comparison within it. Without
> comparison, "there IS food rationing" cannot be measured against "virtually
> trivial scale".
WOW..are you SERIOUS?
I had NO CLUE that it carried explicit comparison within it, you know,
as I was the one who wrote it to do so. THANK YOU SO MUCH for so
tautologizing the UTTERLY OBVIOUS.
My statement stands as a refutation to the assertion that there is
"no" rationing. Moron.
> Would you prefer to be called NetK0oK? It can be organised.
>
Would you prefer another bitchslap? It can be organized.
Trav
Kadaitcha Man
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>> "But, there IS food rationing, albeit of a virtually trivial scale NOW."
>>
>> That statement of yours carries explicit comparison within it. Without
>> comparison, "there IS food rationing" cannot be measured against
>> "virtually
>> trivial scale".
>
> WOW..are you SERIOUS?
>
> I had NO CLUE
It shows. And, fwiw, you still don't.
> that it carried explicit comparison within it, you know,
> as I was the one who wrote it to do so. THANK YOU SO MUCH for so
> tautologizing the UTTERLY OBVIOUS.
If it was so obvious that "it carried explicit comparison", why did you
claim that you "haven't made ANY comparisons, idiot! Not a single ONE"?
Hmmm?
Are you a liar or just stupid? Or both?
> My statement stands as a refutation to the assertion that there is
> "no" rationing. Moron.
"a refutation to the assertion that there is 'no' rationing" is not being
discussed here. Your assertion that you "haven't made ANY comparisons,
idiot! Not a single ONE" is.
Please stay focussed, and do try not to snip the arguments you want to avoid
because I'll just put them back.
>> Would you prefer to be called NetK0oK? It can be organised.
>>
>
> Would you prefer another bitchslap? It can be<BITCHSLAP>
Monkey see, monkey do.
trav...@aol.com
> claim that you "haven't made ANY comparisons, idiot! Not a single ONE"?
> Hmmm?
>
> Are you a liar or just stupid? Or both?
Is this how you do your trolling? You pull pieces of sentences and
attempt to reassemble them to make that into an argument?
I made no comparisons between rationing now and the rationing
discussed by the other author.
But, troll on for another bitchslap.
> Monkey see, monkey do.
Bang those cymbals for me, monkey.
Trav
Kadaitcha Man
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>> If it was so obvious that "it carried explicit comparison", why did
>> you claim that you "haven't made ANY comparisons, idiot! Not a
>> single ONE"? Hmmm?
>>
>> Are you a liar or just stupid? Or both?
> Is this how you do your trolling? You pull pieces of sentences and
> attempt to reassemble them to make that into an argument?
Moi?
<WEIL>
> I made no comparisons between rationing now and the rationing
> discussed by the other author.
You will note that you have specified "rationing now" and "rationing
discussed by the other author".
Where, in your original statement, "I haven't made ANY comparisons, idiot!
Not a single ONE" are the specifics? "Not a single ONE" is all exclusive,
whereas the difference between "rationing now" and "rationing discussed by
the other author" is not.
Please explain why you feel you should be allowed to move the goalposts.
> But, troll on for another bitchslap.
>> Monkey see, monkey do.
> Bang those cymbals for me, monkey.
Wow! An IKYABWAI. I've never seen one of those on usenet before.
trav...@aol.com
> discussed by the other author".
>
> Where, in your original statement, "I haven't made ANY comparisons, idiot!
> Not a single ONE" are the specifics? "Not a single ONE" is all exclusive,
> whereas the difference between "rationing now" and "rationing discussed by
> the other author" is not.
>
> Please explain why you feel you should be allowed to move the goalposts.
Because I have a dick and you don't.
> Wow! An IKYABWAI. I've never seen one of those on usenet before.
Your trolling just isn't very good. You're quite bland and trifling.
You need to spend some time here and take notes from Renli. Until
then, just shut the fuck up.
Trav
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Do you feel that you deserve better than "bland and trifling"?
> just shut the fuck up.
Pick one:
A) I bet you can't make that happen.
B) Or else what?
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At least you do not argue that you are bland and trifling.
> > just shut the fuck up.
>
> Pick one:
>
> A) I bet you can't make that happen.
>
> B) Or else what?
It was just a word of advice, dude.
Trav