Oil winner in Iraq
trav...@aol.com
Our army works for them now
This is like when you get real deep in debt and the creditor asks you
to take care of some unpaid accounts he has and to maybe take care of
a rival or two.
Trav
h...@nospam.com
<trav...@aol.com> wrote:
>China.
>
>Our army works for them now
>
>http://blogs.tampabay.com/energy/2009/06/and-the-winner-of-iraqs-oil-ischina-yes-thanks-to-us-senators.html
what ? Iraq all about the oil?
Who ever woulda thunkit?
Rabid Weasel Lawson
> On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:10:48 -0700 (PDT), "trav...@aol.cominyrface"
> <trav...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>China.
>>
>>Our army works for them now
>>
>>http://blogs.tampabay.com/energy/2009/06/and-the-winner-of-iraqs-oil-ischina-yes-thanks-to-us-senators.html
>
> what ? Iraq all about the oil?
>
> Who ever woulda thunkit?
Trav has been saying it's about the oil from day one and, just because
you're too stupid to remember, I've been saying that I didn't care what
the excuse was, as long as the Sadam torture rooms were gone.
(IH)
Slim
<trav...@aol.com> said:
Why not?
Neil "Silverado" Bush has been selling out our latest computer
technology to them for years now!!!
--
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and
carrying the cross." - Sinclair Lewis
Slim
<lawson@NO19795SPAM+dayton.net> said:
Replaced by our torture rooms!!!
hal
replaced by our torture rooms, of course. Of course you can't beat a
good Christian torture room. Christians have made an art form out of
torture.
Praise the Lord.
>
>(IH)
Rabid Weasel Lawson
> replaced by our torture rooms, of course. Of course you can't beat a
> good Christian torture room. Christians have made an art form out of
> torture.
How many? 2? 3? How many women have been run through "our" rape rooms?
0? How many families of political dissidents have been "disappeared,"
huh? 0?
Yeah, nice try bonehead.
(IH)
Herbert Cannon
<hal> wrote in message news:kset45hrrovogj3na...@4ax.com...
suds mcduff
---You think N Korea has any torture rooms.....you ready to invade
there? What about Cuba? The human rights record there is
appalling.....No, Kook, the reason we don't invade those places is that
they've got hungry people and little else....
Slim
<lawson@NO19795SPAM+dayton.net> said:
> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:17:50 -0600, hal wrote:
>
>> replaced by our torture rooms, of course. Of course you can't beat a
>> good Christian torture room. Christians have made an art form out of
>> torture.
>
> How many? 2? 3? How many women have been run through "our" rape rooms?
> 0?
Cite?
> How many families of political dissidents have been "disappeared,"
> huh? 0?
Cite?
>
> Yeah, nice try bonehead.
>
> (IH)
Slim
The Kurds meet all the requirementd for independence.
Bush and Rummsey ignorned thier cries for freedom.
Raygun and Rummsey let Saddam butcher them.
FREE KURDISTAN!!!!
Slim
If they had oil we would be in there on "humaitarian" reasons.
TravIsGod
>
> Neil "Silverado" Bush has been selling out our latest computer
> technology to them for years now!!!
And Bill Clitton transferred secret missile technology to them in
exchange for campaign funds. Al Bore was basically owned by the
Chinese Communist Party.
All this debt to the Chinese just so we can continue to rack up
deficits like O'bamma. Great.
Trav
TravIsGod
Isn't that what I said from like before the invasion? Didn't I bet
some idiot here real money that we'd find no WMD?
> Who ever woulda thunkit?
I woulda thunk it, you idiot.
This is far deeper than Iraq being about the oil. Now it's looking
like thanks to our OWN Senate, WE are not really going to be getting
that oil, China is.
So, we are going to trade Iraq and Taiwan to get out of debt all so we
can run a profligate waste of a government and PRETEND like we're
rich?
What happened to the NO BID shit that you fucking libtards were
whining about? It's GONE. The Democrap Party is clearly owned by the
Chinese and has been since Clitton was selling them missile secrets.
No wonder they keep trying to push us further and further into debt
with every spending bill. This is EXACTLY what happened to Argentina;
foreign interests BOUGHT the political process and then ran the nation
into bankruptcy while bribing the "leadership" to do it! Then, when
bankruptcy happened, those same foreign interests swooped in and
bought every real asset for pennies and made the nation an effective
colony. ALL prices went up. Oh, you want to use that cellphone
system that YOU the people paid for to have built on YOUR land with
YOUR tax subsidies? Yeah, fuck you, pay us.
This is pure imperialism except without the amphibious landings.
Trav
Herbert Cannon
>>> replaced by our torture rooms, of course. Of course you can't beat a
>>> good Christian torture room. Christians have made an art form out of
>>> torture.
>>>
>> Really ask the Kurds who they prefer.
>
> The Kurds meet all the requirementd for independence.
>
> Bush and Rummsey ignorned thier cries for freedom.
>
> Raygun and Rummsey let Saddam butcher them.
>
> FREE KURDISTAN!!!!
>
Which means all you have left is your inane shouted slogans. It is somewhat
amusing to watch such a staggering display of stupidity and ignorance.
Herbert Cannon
>>>> ? Iraq all about the oil?
>>>>
>>>> Who ever woulda thunkit?
>>>
>>> Trav has been saying it's about the oil from day one and, just because
>>> you're too stupid to remember, I've been saying that I didn't care what
>>> the excuse was, as long as the Sadam torture rooms were gone.
>>>
>>> (IH)
>>
>> ---You think N Korea has any torture rooms.....you ready to invade there?
Before or after they drop a missile on Hawaii? You mean a socialist paradise
has gulags?
What about Cuba?
Your socialist paradise. The place Roger Moore said was such a fine place to
be?
The human rights record there is
>> appalling....
A socialist paradise that locks up dissenters has a human rights record that
is appalling? Now who would have thought that.
.No, Kook, the reason we don't invade those places is that
>> they've got hungry people and little else....
Really damn they were well fed when they invaded South Korea? Is that why we
fought them cause they were well fed?
> If they had oil we would be in there on "humaitarian" reasons.
So they had oil during the Korean War. What happened to it?
>
Herbert Cannon
> replaced by our torture rooms, of course. Of course you can't beat a
> good Christian torture room. Christians have made an art form out of
> torture.
>
You know Hal you really need to read something about what was happening in
Iraq. Of course I realize all you can do is shout your blind hatred of
Christians and Jews in a display of your clossal stupidity that is only
matched by your colossal ignorance. You have truly made an art form out of
doing this. I marvel that someone with no knowledge can continue to babble
such childish bullshit and think it is true. You will truly believe any
negative propaganda produced by anyone as long as it about Jews, Christians,
or the US. Your overriding guilty conscience causes you to cry mea culpa,
don your hair shirt and flagellate yourself in public. I dont believe I have
ever run into anyone as miserable as you.
Slim
>>
>> replaced by our torture rooms, of course. Of course you can't beat a
>> good Christian torture room. Christians have made an art form out of
>> torture.
>>
>
> You know Hal you really need to read something about what was happening
> in Iraq.
We done blew the hell out of the country that was no threat to us, one
that was called "the cradle of civilization", we allowed the looting of
national treasures and artifacts, we killed hundreds of thousands of
innocent people....all for a lie...all about money.
David O'Daniel
"FREE KURDISTAN!!!!"
<Bo>: Amen, finally something we agree on. Both for Iraq & Turkey & any
others occupying Kurdish lands. Hypocrisy to ignore them, yet whine
about the Faastinians and not let Israel settle its OWN land because the
scum out there pro-fake-anti-Israel, are looking forward to when they
can make Israel give up more of Israel to the terrorists who will not &
neve never had 3 days of peace in agreement to their land for peace
trades. Iraq & Iran & others were made up by I believe the British who
just drew maps regardless of historical peoples & gave land away to
whoever. So also if they are going to say all of Iraq is undividable &
must stay even inch Iraq then get the heck out of meddling with all of
Israel!
Do genetic testing, send those Fakastinians back to whichever country
their genes say they came from; Egypt, JOrdan, Syria, unless they are
found to be actually Jewish or Roman.
Bo
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and
degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing is
worth a war, is worse." --- John Stuart Mill
Herbert Cannon
"Slim" <sl...@pickins.com> wrote in message
news:2009070500195043042-slim@pickinscom...
> On 2009-07-04 18:27:45 -0400, "Herbert Cannon" <hcan...@cox.net> said:
>
>>>
>>> replaced by our torture rooms, of course. Of course you can't beat a
>>> good Christian torture room. Christians have made an art form out of
>>> torture.
>>>
>>
>> You know Hal you really need to read something about what was happening
>> in Iraq.
>
> We done blew the hell out of the country that was no threat to us, one
> that was called "the cradle of civilization", we allowed the looting of
> national treasures and artifacts, we killed hundreds of thousands of
> innocent people....all for a lie...all about money.
When you feel guilty enough to kill yourself perform a mercy killing and
kill yourself. Otherwise quit spouting ignorant nonsense.
Herbert Cannon
> On 2009-07-03 23:14:54 -0400, Rabid Weasel Lawson
> <lawson@NO19795SPAM+dayton.net> said:
>
>> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:17:50 -0600, hal wrote:
>>
>>> replaced by our torture rooms, of course. Of course you can't beat a
>>> good Christian torture room. Christians have made an art form out of
>>> torture.
>>
>> How many? 2? 3? How many women have been run through "our" rape rooms?
>> 0?
>
> Cite?
>
>> How many families of political dissidents have been "disappeared,"
>> huh? 0?
>
> Cite?
>
http://www.amazon.com/Kurds-Iraq-Past-Present-Future/dp/074532228X
Slim
Back to the killing AGAIN?
Herbert Cannon
> On 2009-07-05 08:34:58 -0400, "Herbert Cannon" <hcan...@cox.net> said:
>
>>
>> "Slim" <sl...@pickins.com> wrote in message
>> news:2009070500195043042-slim@pickinscom...
>>> On 2009-07-04 18:27:45 -0400, "Herbert Cannon" <hcan...@cox.net> said:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> replaced by our torture rooms, of course. Of course you can't beat a
>>>>> good Christian torture room. Christians have made an art form out of
>>>>> torture.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You know Hal you really need to read something about what was happening
>>>> in Iraq.
>>>
>>> We done blew the hell out of the country that was no threat to us, one
>>> that was called "the cradle of civilization", we allowed the looting of
>>> national treasures and artifacts, we killed hundreds of thousands of
>>> innocent people....all for a lie...all about money.
>>
>> When you feel guilty enough to kill yourself perform a mercy killing and
>> kill yourself. Otherwise quit spouting ignorant nonsense.
>
> Back to the killing AGAIN?
>
Firdusi
Women seem to be safe from us:
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2009/05/us-officials-admitted-that-boys-were.html
Herbert Cannon
"Firdusi" <fir...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:87eistw...@comcast.net...
Seymour? That is the moron that kept saying Bush was going to bomb Iran. He
has no credibility.
Herbert Cannon
>
> Women seem to be safe from us:
>
> http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2009/05/us-officials-admitted-that-boys-were.html
Total bullshit. If you are going to post some trash you ought to look a
little harder. If you read this ( which I doubt ) dont skip the chapter
where he explains what that culture does to young boys:
http://www.amazon.com/Fixing-Hell-Psychologist-Confronts-Ghraib/dp/0446509280
Oh and today CNN just discovered that the Taliban claims it has a three
month supply of child suicide bombers. Imagine that. They must have been
living under a rock like you for a long time to just discover it.
TravIsGod
> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:47:16 -0400, Rabid Weasel Lawson
>
>
>
> <law...@NO19795SPAM+dayton.net> wrote:
> >On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:19:21 -0600, hal wrote:
>
> >> <travis...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >>>China.
>
> >>>Our army works for them now
>
>
> >> what ? Iraq all about the oil?
>
> >> Who ever woulda thunkit?
>
> >Trav has been saying it's about the oil from day one and, just because
> >you're too stupid to remember, I've been saying that I didn't care what
> >the excuse was, as long as the Sadam torture rooms were gone.
>
> replaced by our torture rooms, of course. Of course you can't beat a
> good Christian torture room. Christians have made an art form out of
> torture.
It may surprise you to know that it isn't the 1500s anymore hal
Trav
Slim
Yup...the Taliban....the same guys Dubya gave $43 million tax dollars
to in May of 2001.
suds mcduff
>>>>> ? Iraq all about the oil?
>>>>>
>>>>> Who ever woulda thunkit?
>>>> Trav has been saying it's about the oil from day one and, just because
>>>> you're too stupid to remember, I've been saying that I didn't care what
>>>> the excuse was, as long as the Sadam torture rooms were gone.
>>>>
>>>> (IH)
>>> ---You think N Korea has any torture rooms.....you ready to invade there?
>
> Before or after they drop a missile on Hawaii? You mean a socialist paradise
> has gulags?
---Who said NK was a socialist paradise, Dim? You?
>
> What about Cuba?
>
> Your socialist paradise.
---Who said Cuba was a socialist paradise Dim? You?
The place Roger Moore said was such a fine place to
> be?
---James Bond likes Cuba?
>
> The human rights record there is
>>> appalling....
>
> A socialist paradise that locks up dissenters has a human rights record that
> is appalling?
--------Who said Cuba was a socialist paradise Dim? You?
Now who would have thought that.
----Similar to right wing dictatorships beloved by Repubs....
>
>
> .No, Kook, the reason we don't invade those places is that
>>> they've got hungry people and little else....
>
> Really damn they were well fed when they invaded South Korea? Is that why we
> fought them cause they were well fed?
----Well, if they're such awful places, why haven't we invaded them like
Iraq, Dunce? Isn't that why we invaded Iraq, to save the poor Iraqis
from Saddam? No, we have no interest in countries with no natural
resources to exploit...
>
>> If they had oil we would be in there on "humaitarian" reasons.
>
> So they had oil during the Korean War. What happened to it?
---A much as Iraq, Dim?
suds mcduff
>> what ? Iraq all about the oil?
>
> Isn't that what I said from like before the invasion? Didn't I bet
> some idiot here real money that we'd find no WMD?
---Yep, I remember that....tally one for you....
>
>> Who ever woulda thunkit?
>
> I woulda thunk it, you idiot.
>
> This is far deeper than Iraq being about the oil. Now it's looking
> like thanks to our OWN Senate, WE are not really going to be getting
> that oil, China is.
>
> So, we are going to trade Iraq and Taiwan to get out of debt all so we
> can run a profligate waste of a government and PRETEND like we're
> rich?
>
> What happened to the NO BID shit that you fucking libtards were
> whining about? It's GONE. The Democrap Party is clearly owned by the
> Chinese and has been since Clitton was selling them missile secrets.
----...what about Reagan and Bush 1? Reagan approved the idea that would
allow American satellite manufacturers to launch satellites using
Chinese rockets....
"The flow of high-technology exports from the U.S. to China in recent
years has been significant. Between 1990 and 1993 -- during both the
Bush and Clinton presidencies -- the Commerce and State Departments
approved a total of 67 dual-use technology export licenses, worth more
than $530 million, to China, according to an April 1994 report by the
General Accounting Office, the congressional watchdog agency."
---In addition, it was one of our beloved contractors that gave the
"secrets" to the Chinese...
"Afterward Loral admits it gave the Chinese a written report about the
cause of the rocket failure, without official clearance. A Pentagon
office concluded in a still-secret report that "United States national
security has been harmed," according to government officials. And Loral
confirms it is now under investigation by a federal grand jury as a result.
And one House International Relations Committee source, speaking to CNN
on background, said the committee plans to focus its investigation on
this cooperation.
Loral's chairman Bernard Schwartz denies Loral did anything illegal. In
its own defense, Loral says Chinese engineers found the problem -- the
rocket failure was caused by bad solder joints -- without Loral's help.
And they say "no 'secret' or 'classified' information was ever discussed
with the Chinese or included in any reports provided to the Chinese."
Privately, Pentagon officials minimize the affair. One told CNN that the
alleged harm to national security was "not significant or substantial
... about a one or two on a scale of ten."
---a one or two on a scale of ten....
suds mcduff
>> Why not?
>>
>> Neil "Silverado" Bush has been selling out our latest computer
>> technology to them for years now!!!
>
> And Bill Clitton transferred secret missile technology to them in
> exchange for campaign funds.
---No, the contractor, Lorad, told the Chinese what they were doing
wrong without govt approval...
Al Bore was basically owned by the
> Chinese Communist Party.
---You're a liar.....
Herbert Cannon
> On 2009-07-06 19:47:54 -0400, "Herbert Cannon" <hcan...@cox.net> said:
>
>>
>>>
>>> Women seem to be safe from us:
>>>
>>> http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2009/05/us-officials-admitted-that-boys-were.html
>
> Total
>>>
>> bullshit. If you are going to post some trash you ought to look a little
>> harder. If you read this ( which I doubt ) dont skip the chapter where he
>> explains what that culture does to young boys:
>> http://www.amazon.com/Fixing-Hell-Psychologist-Confronts-Ghraib/dp/0446509280
>>
>> Oh and today CNN just discovered that the Taliban claims it has a three
>> month supply of child suicide bombers. Imagine that. They must have been
>> living under a rock like you for a long time to just discover it.
>
> Yup...the Taliban....the same guys Dubya gave $43 million tax dollars to
> in May of 2001.
>
Herbert Cannon
"suds mcduff" <sudsmcd...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ZxO4m.64336$qa.3...@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
That certainly explains why we fought the Korean war.
>>
>>> If they had oil we would be in there on "humaitarian" reasons.
>>
>> So they had oil during the Korean War. What happened to it?
>
> ---A much as Iraq, Dim?
They sent it to Iraq?
>
Slim
Total
THE TRUTH HURTS, BITCH!!!
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=3556
How Washington Funded the Taliban
by Ted Galen Carpenter
This article appeared on cato.org on August 2, 2002.
The United States has made common cause with an assortment of dubious
regimes around the world to wage the war on drugs. Perhaps the most
shocking example was Washington's decision in May 2001 to financially
reward Afghanistan's infamous Taliban government for its edict ordering
a halt to the cultivation of opium poppies.
When the Taliban implemented a ban on opium cultivation in early 2001,
U.S. officials were most complimentary. James P. Callahan, director of
Asian Affairs for the State Department's Bureau of International
Narcotics and Law Enforcement Affairs, uncritically relayed the alleged
accounts of Afghan farmers that "the Taliban used a system of
consensus-building" to develop and carry out the edict. That
characterization was more than a little suspect because the Taliban was
not known for pursuing consensus in other aspects of its rule.
Columnist Robert Scheer was justifiably scathing in his criticism of
the U.S. response. "That a totalitarian country can effectively crack
down on its farmers is not surprising," Sheer noted, but he considered
it "grotesque" for a U.S. official to describe the drug-crop crackdown
in such benign terms.
Yet the Bush administration did more than praise the Taliban's
proclaimed ban of opium cultivation. In mid-May, 2001, Secretary of
State Colin Powell announced a $43 million grant to Afghanistan in
addition to the humanitarian aid the United States had long been
providing to agencies assisting Afghan refugees. Given Callahan's
comment, there was little doubt that the new stipend was a reward for
Kabul's anti-drug efforts. That $43 million grant needs to be placed in
context. Afghanistan's estimated gross domestic product was a mere $2
billion. The equivalent financial impact on the U.S. economy would have
required an infusion of $215 billion. In other words, $43 million was
very serious money to Afghanistan's theocratic masters.
To make matters worse, U.S. officials were naive to take the Taliban
edict at face value. The much-touted crackdown on opium poppy
cultivation appears to have been little more than an illusion. Despite
U.S. and UN reports that the Taliban had virtually wiped out the poppy
crop in 2000-2001, authorities in neighboring Tajikistan reported that
the amounts coming across the border were actually increasing. In
reality, the Taliban gave its order to halt cultivation merely to drive
up the price of opium the regime had already stockpiled.
Even if the Taliban had tried to stem cultivation for honest reasons,
U.S. cooperation with that regime should have been morally repugnant.
Among other outrages, the Taliban government prohibited the education
of girls, tortured and executed political critics, and required
non-Muslims to wear distinctive clothing--a practice eerily reminiscent
of Nazi Germany's requirement that Jews display the Star of David on
their clothing. Yet U.S. officials deemed none of that to be a bar to
cooperation with the Taliban on drug policy.
Even if the Bush administration had not been dissuaded by moral
considerations, it should have been by purely pragmatic concerns. There
was already ample evidence in the spring of 2001 that the Taliban was
giving sanctuary to Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda network that had bombed
two U.S. embassies in East Africa. For the State Department to ignore
that connection and agree to subsidize the Taliban was inexcusably
obtuse. Scheer was on the mark when he concluded, "The war on drugs has
become our own fanatics' obsession and easily trumps all other
concerns."
Washington's approach came to an especially calamitous end in September
2001 when the Taliban regime was linked to bin Laden's terrorist
attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon that killed some
3,000 people. Moreover, evidence quickly emerged that the Taliban all
along had been collecting millions of dollars in profits from the
illicit drug trade, with much of that money going into the coffers of
the terrorists. Rarely is there such graphic evidence of the bankruptcy
of U.S. drug policy.
TravIsGod
LOL. I knew what the fucking war was about, I told everyone here why
it was inevitable, and I even provided fucking talking points for the
chickenhawks so that they would at LEAST have something intelligent to
say.
Then fuckin Chainy showed up on MTP like 2 weeks later cribbing my
shit!
> ----...what about Reagan and Bush 1? Reagan approved the idea that would
> allow American satellite manufacturers to launch satellites using
> Chinese rockets....
They suck too, ok?
That's not the point. I don't defend Raygun and Busch...you DO defend
Obongo.
> "The flow of high-technology exports from the U.S. to China in recent
> years has been significant. Between 1990 and 1993 -- during both the
> Bush and Clinton presidencies -- the Commerce and State Departments
> approved a total of 67 dual-use technology export licenses, worth more
> than $530 million, to China, according to an April 1994 report by the
> General Accounting Office, the congressional watchdog agency."
no SHIT! These people should be hanged as TRAITORS.
> ---a one or two on a scale of ten....
That was Clitton's Pentagon.
Trav