. . . oh yea, and they can bend spoons with their thoughts.
This is no legend. It has nothing to do with mastery, though. Some
people, not everybody, do have this special ability. I do. But I don't
really control it. When really stressed, I guess every guy knows about
it, testes tend to contract and get "smaller". That is a part of the
phonomenon. In those times, just try to pull on them a little more,
much like you do when you got a big P need and can't get to the
toilet... Some might feel a little "ploop" and eggs will be up. Give
it a try! (This is no kidding. Seems weird, but I'm very serious!)
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I don't think so. Sounds just like the kinda stuff you'd see on some stupid late night
martial arts movie. They like to make people think they have extraordinary powers or
control over thier bodies; like soaring 75 feet through the air towards their oponent in a flying kick. (while the other guy would have enough time to plant a spear into the ground
for him to land on).
B.
Steven Martin <sj...@cam.ac.uk> wrote in article
<330929...@cam.ac.uk>...
>A karate instructor once told me that old martial arts masters were able
>to suck their testes up into their bodies in battle to protect them. I
>recently told this to a medic friend of mine and he assured me that it
>was impossible.
>Has anyone else heard about this legend?
I'm sure someone here could boot them up in there for you if you ask
nicely.
Carcharodon Carcharias
This comes from what's left of a reflex- early humans would presumably
retract their package when threatened. The muscle and the reflex still
exist- ever been swimming in a cold lake? And presumably, one could learn
to stimulate this reflex CONSCIOUSLY, like many other autonomic responses
that people have learned to control via biofeedback. It's something you
can practice when your bored, I guess.
Randy-ola
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Another myth ! What they used to do ( and many still do) is to wear
tight shorts , so the testes are real high, then get into a very narrow
high horse stance, tilt the hips forward ( meaning you drive the lower
hips forward, the upper hips back, then tense the butt and legs real
hard so the kick will be striking the inner thighs and butt...( some
will raise their hips at the second of impact to better align the
muscles..)
No big deal ! And no drawing in the testes to anywhere..
New Sage
One thing that is possible is to have your testes driven up between the
skin ( & muscles, whatever) and the front pf the public bone from a good
kick, but, then unless you are some sick yoyo, it is never done
intentional. ( I know the kwatsu for getting back into where it belongs
though !)
New Sage
>Steven Martin wrote:
>>
>> A karate instructor once told me that old martial arts masters were able
>> to suck their testes up into their bodies in battle to protect them. I
>> recently told this to a medic friend of mine and he assured me that it
>> was impossible.
>> Has anyone else heard about this legend?
>
>
>This comes from what's left of a reflex- early humans would presumably
>retract their package when threatened. The muscle and the reflex still
>exist- ever been swimming in a cold lake? And presumably, one could learn
>to stimulate this reflex CONSCIOUSLY, like many other autonomic responses
>that people have learned to control via biofeedback. It's something you
>can practice when your bored, I guess.
I guess I have never been that bored ;-)
Actually, yes. They can achieve this higher level of power and control
because they expend such vast amounts of testosterone at a given time.
As a result of this massive expenditure of testosterone, the testicles
lose their volume and seem to "levitate," thus reaching a state in which
they can be easily manipulated by the owner.
Either that .... or I could just be speaking out of my ass.
This isn't simply a residual reflex; it serves the purpose of controlling
the temperature of the gonads which are particularly sensitive to temperature.
Ed Vigmond
That last one must be correct- I thought you were just talking with your
mouth full.
Randy ;)
Which is precisely why it's really hard to learn conscious control
over. If you retract to prevent damage, you run the risk of severely
messing up the internal workings of sperm production...somtimes
permanently.
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> Another myth ! What they used to do ( and many still do) is to wear
> tight shorts , so the testes are real high, then get into a very narrow
> high horse stance, tilt the hips forward ( meaning you drive the lower
> hips forward, the upper hips back, then tense the butt and legs real
> hard so the kick will be striking the inner thighs and butt...( some
> will raise their hips at the second of impact to better align the
> muscles..)
>
Hey! You should have spoken up when we were having the Ryan Parker
discussion. This is definetely the best natural explanation I've yet heard
about his ability to take kicks in the nuts. Say, how much of this would
be hidden for the onlooker if you wear a gi?
But I guess that trick only works for kick coming from below between the
legs, not for a straight pushing kick?
Ciao,
Ingo
(6. SG WT)
> One thing that is possible is to have your testes driven up between the
> skin ( & muscles, whatever) and the front pf the public bone from a good
> kick, but, then unless you are some sick yoyo, it is never done
> intentional. ( I know the kwatsu for getting back into where it belongs
> though !)
>
I seem to remember that drawing the testicles in isn't uncommon for boys
when for example hitting cold water. If that is so, then there will be
some kind of muscle that does the trick (which is probably not strong and
can't be conciously controlled by the normal man). If that is the case,
then it will be possible to gain concious control and train that muscle
(for god's sake, some yogi's can "drink" milk with their penis....).
But really all this is just faint memory for me - we should ask a doctor
about this.
There are a set of muscles that the testicles are connected to. These
muscles go largely unused by most people, but with concentration and
practice they can be retracted so that your testicles can be pulled inside.
The reason it seems so odd is because most people are not used to thinking
about or using these muscles, but they can indeed be made strong. In
Shaolin temple there are folks that practice by tying large rocks their
testicles and lifting them, dragging them around on the ground, etc. I have
seen documentary footage of this.
I can actually controllably flex these muscles, although not much. And,
actually, if we are comfortable talking about stuff like this here... have
any of you guys noticed the relative position of your testicles after going
out in the cold? At some times, they are hanging quite low, at others, they
are pulled up tight against the body. What would cause this if there was
not a muscle of some sort capable of retracting them?
Steven Martin <sj...@cam.ac.uk> wrote in article
<330929...@cam.ac.uk>...
I already asked one, Ingo. I wrote what he told me in my response
(although I gave him no credit- what can I say- it was months ago, and I
don't remember his name). He was not an M.D., he was a physiologist.
Anyway, it's pretty much like what you said above.
Randy-ola
Yeah, but anyone with enough time on their hands to practice this
probably isn't the 'family' kinda guy anyway...
>
> This isn't simply a residual reflex; it serves the purpose of controlling
> the temperature of the gonads which are particularly sensitive to temperature.
>
Yes, men with infertility problems are in many cases instructed to wear
boxers instead of briefs-- studies were done, in summer etc.
--
Not to be rude...but I'm pretty sure that you are, in fact, speaking
from your ass. I'm a student of physiology, and the uses of which I
know for testosterone do NOT extend to martial arts. The hormones
responsible for atletic response are produced elsewhere (adrenal gland &
pituitary, mostly). Also, testosterone cannot be "stored" in the
testes...it's a steroid, which means that it is released into the
bloodstream as soon as it's produced, since it passes straight through
cell membranes.
Now, it MIGHT be a stress-related reflex...
Nowadays wrestlers put their testicles into their groin. But the "suck"
option seems rather impossible for me
Martin
And what does Booboo have to say about this?
Richard
Excuse me for being stunned ! But how do they get them to reach that
far back ? ( unless you are "Plastic Man" )
New Sage
> Nowadays wrestlers put their testicles into their groin. But the "suck"
> option seems rather impossible for me
>
You mean - they force them in with their hands? Seriously? In tournament
fighting or what?
> Date: Mon, 17 FEB 1997 17:54:59 -0800
> From: mrh...@swbell.net
> Newgroups: rec.martial-arts
> Subject: Re: Retracting your testicles
>
> Steven Martin wrote:
> >
> > A karate instructor once told me that old martial arts masters were able
> > to suck their testes up into their bodies in battle to protect them. I
> > recently told this to a medic friend of mine and he assured me that it
> > was impossible.
> > Has anyone else heard about this legend?
>
> . . . oh yea, and they can bend spoons with their thoughts.
>
>
Laugh not... There is an old Sensei who shows up at my Ju-Jitsu dojo
from time to time that can actually do this weird, and slightly
disgusting feat. It actually does work, and can be done. How it's done
I have no idea... Maybe if you concentrate hard enough
Crippled Sempai
Also Falthor Longhand
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"We have a martial art in Scotland too... it's called fuh Kyew"
-Quote from "So I married an axe murderer"
That must be some documentary footage! Makes me sick just thinking
about it!
KungFu
you actually stop in a confrontation to push your balls into your
pelvis? I dont think so . maybe you do so before you
fight in the ring . (pretty silly if you ask me)
i have trained on and off for more than fifteen years .
IMHO
may I suggest you buy a cup !
aiki
I do recall reading something in a medical journal on how some of the old
chi - kung excersizes were actually quite possible. aparently there is a
muscle group that is partailly vestigal in most primates, but is not in
some mammle who can retract their testicles. I guess it is kind of like
people who can wiggle their ears but takes more practice...
-tim
>I can just see the comments now......
>
>
>B.
>
>Steven Martin <sj...@cam.ac.uk> wrote in article
><330929...@cam.ac.uk>...
>> A karate instructor once told me that old martial arts masters were able
>> to suck their testes up into their bodies in battle to protect them. I
>> recently told this to a medic friend of mine and he assured me that it
>> was impossible.
>> Has anyone else heard about this legend?
>>
You can indeed put them back up into the lower abdominal reigion by
hand, but its hard to keep them there.....
Brady Bunch 3 : the Movie..........
"why did you quit your day-job honey ?"
"Because I have to master the art of testicle clenching"
Rod.
Get hold of some of Mantak Chias books. If you practice the Toaist reverse
breathing technique, which involves, at the more advanced level, a
tightening of the prostrate(?). This actually causes the testicles to rise,
it can quite easily be done. It would seem fairly straight forward that it
would be a matter of practice to actually withdraw them far enough to enter the
body cavity.
Your instructor was correct that this is a real practice.
As for bending spoons, you find most of the responses in this newsgroup tend
to be uninformative, totally useless and from utter fuckwits.
If you look hard enough and are truly dedicated to learning real martial arts
rather than an ego-massaging sport, you will find teachers who can show you
all of this.
Never, ever do this. When they come back down, they can 'flip'- and
testicular torsion is NOT worth any amount of physiological control...
>>>A karate instructor once told me that old martial arts masters were able
>>>to suck their testes up into their bodies in battle to protect them. I
>>>recently told this to a medic friend of mine and he assured me that it
>>>was impossible.
>>>Has anyone else heard about this legend?
It's not a legend. It's true.
My old jujutsu sensei have said that it was a standard practice for
him, when he was younger. The theory goes like this: as a baby, your
testicles are inside your body and nothing hangs out. As you're being
born, the testicles pop out, but for kids and young boys the opening
is large enough and you can force the suckers back. As you grow older,
them openings get smaller and smaller, and your testes bigger an d
bigger, so it is increasingly difficult for most people to do so.
That's why, if you want to keep that ability, you need to go through
certain exercises continuously. Drawing your testes up only using
muscles is fairly difficult, but tucking them in with your fingers is
no big deal at all. One out of every two men can do so. Getting them
to stay there *IS* a big deal though and that's where muscle control
comes into play.
The "hiding the testicles" issue is being approached from another
different group altogether. Transvestites (or whatever their name is -
those who like to cross-dress) very often like to appear in female
undewear and often hide their male-ness. With plenty of hormons,
careful makeup and a lot of skill, it would be very difficult for you
to tell that that chick you're looking at is actually a guy. A big
problem though is the genitals. In order to hide them, they use a
procedure they call "tucking". It's the same thing - the testicles are
pushed up in the lower abdominal cavity and taped, in order to keep
them there. The penis, depending on location and size can be pulled
back, tucked and pressed in between the legs. A smaller penis can be
hidden in the same place where the testicles are. It's pretty bizzare
activity, but it has been done. The end result is that you can look at
between that chick's legs, her being naked, dressed only in panties
and you't totally miss the fact that this is a guy with a dick and
pair of balls, just like any other guy!
What's the martial art application of this all? Next to none, I'm
afraid. The thing is, knowledgable martial artists tend to kick not at
the testicles but few inches higher. The purpose is breaking the pubic
bone and attacking the internal organs - bladder etc.
As far as being able to "drink" milk from the penis - that's possible
as well. The more popular version though is doing the same feat
through the anus. The way that works is as follows: you create vacuum
in the abdominal cavity by doing special exercises. (Basically, you
breath all the air out of the lungs and compress your stomach inward -
fairly standard hatha yoga exercise, by which a partial vacuum is
being created inside). Then if you submerge any opening (penis, anus,
whatever) in a liquid, the vacuum "sucks" the liquid in. The trick is
to be able to keep the liquid in, as well as to do the "sucking"
multiple times. Doing this using your penis is dangerous since the
urethra can be easily infected. Many a people in India have died doing
st00pid tricks. The safer approach is doing it through the anus.
Martial application? - none, I'm afraid. I just present this tid-bits
as a curious item to satisfy the cheap sensential needs of this
esteemed readership.
Love,
-= Ivan =-
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"Strike like thunder", O-Sensei
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> AK-97
> "Strike like thunder", O-Sensei
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How informative... excuse me while I hurl...
:-)
KungFu
> >> A karate instructor once told me that old martial arts masters were
able
> >> to suck their testes up into their bodies in battle to protect them. I
> >> recently told this to a medic friend of mine and he assured me that it
> >> was impossible.
> >> Has anyone else heard about this legend?
> >>
>
> You can indeed put them back up into the lower abdominal reigion by
> hand, but its hard to keep them there.....
How exactly do you do it? I'd like to try. :)
KungFu <adam...@earthlink.net> wrote in article
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> Crazy wrote:
> >
> > ABAZABA wrote:
> >
> > >>>A karate instructor once told me that old martial arts masters were
able
> > >>>to suck their testes up into their bodies in battle to protect them.
I
> > >>>recently told this to a medic friend of mine and he assured me that
it
> > >>>was impossible.
> > >>>Has anyone else heard about this legend?
> >
Believe it or not i accidently ran across this ,retracting testicles thing
while learning how to do breathing exercises!!! We were doing standing
breathing exercises in class ,in which you stand with your feet spread out
at about shoulder length ,and you put your hands down at your sides then
as you breath in you bring your hands in front of you and up over your head
, and back down as you breath out. At first i did not notice it ,but i was
doing this breathing exercise before i went to bed ,i was naked and my
wife started laughing , my testicle were going up and down with the
breathing... i have since found with practice i can make at least one go up
, i don't however think i would try to protect my groin area by sucking my
testicles up in a fight. i do the breathing exercise purely for meditative
and healing aspects...As with many other martial artist i have found alot
of rumors or legends about old martial artist to be beyound my
understanding ,but i found this one is quite possible
Seriously
kungming (kung...@ici.net send email to me as i don't often have time to
read all the postings)
>> . . . oh yea, and they can bend spoons with their thoughts.
>>
>>
>
>> >>
>> >> A karate instructor once told me that old martial arts masters were able
>> >> to suck their testes up into their bodies in battle to protect them. I
>> >> recently told this to a medic friend of mine and he assured me that it
>> >> was impossible.
>> >> Has anyone else heard about this legend?
Legend??? Hey, these "medics" don't know nothing, I'd trust your instincts
on this one. If your instincts tell you you can retract 'em up to your throat,
go with it.
>> Get hold of some of Mantak Chias books. If you practice the Toaist reverse
>> breathing technique, which involves, at the more advanced level, a
>> tightening of the prostrate(?). This actually causes the testicles to rise,
>> it can quite easily be done. It would seem fairly straight forward that it
>> would be a matter of practice to actually withdraw them far enough to enter the
>> body cavity.
What if they rise up the body cavity and literally float off into outer
space? Don't be surprised when your girlfriend says she's moving out of
state at that point.
>> As for bending spoons, you find most of the responses in this newsgroup tend
>> to be uninformative, totally useless and from utter fuckwits.
Yeah, like you're the exception answering this sorry-looking thread?????
>> If you look hard enough and are truly dedicated to learning real martial arts
>> rather than an ego-massaging sport, you will find teachers who can show you
>> all of this.
Yeah, well, if your testicles are in your body cavity, the ego is about all
anyone will be massaging... :-).
Q.
Hi,
I think nowadays it's only practised by sumo-wrestlers and they start
with it when they are young otherwise the holes shrink as you grow
through puberty. If there's a way to learn this when you are older;
let me know !!!
Aldo Bagchus
This is a little more information than I needed to know! ;)
>This is a little more information than I needed to know! ;)
...and I wonder why you have a need to know in the first place...
:)
Carcharodon Carcharias
Isn't this a TKD form for 9th Dan. somewhere during the form, like
the mountain stomps during Tae Guk(sp?), you must prove your worth by
retracting your testicals. You're way ahead of all of us.
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One question, <chuckle> why? Does this mean that if I strike you in the
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