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Jasper Tiler

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Apr 2, 2009, 11:40:53 PM4/2/09
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I'm interested in a Japanese katana and I'd like
to craft one by myself.

How can I craft a Japanese katana?

the wharf rat

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Apr 2, 2009, 11:46:22 PM4/2/09
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In article <22b373fc-14de-4826...@j8g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,

Jasper Tiler <slimie...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>How can I craft a Japanese katana?

Find a meteorite. Carefully heat it with fine charcoal until
you can forge a bar of pure steel. Now just fold that over itself 2500
times and file off everything that doesnt' look like a sword. Have your
apprentice get a dead skate and make the handle.

Be careful not to bring pizza into the forge during the folding
process or you might get a rapier.


Chilla

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Apr 3, 2009, 1:22:59 AM4/3/09
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Wow a really small question that can lead to a really large answer :-

Short method:
You can make any sword shape with an angle grinder and the right metal.

Long method:
Apprentice yourself to a master in Japan, and spend the next 15 to 20
years polishing and sharpenning blades. Then you get to start making them.

Why does anyone want to make a katana anyway? Aren't there enough in
the world already?


Regards Charles

the wharf rat

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Apr 3, 2009, 1:35:30 AM4/3/09
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In article <49d59d41$0$3253$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au>,

Chilla <charles...@optushome.com.au> wrote:
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>Why does anyone want to make a katana anyway?

To slice up peasants and Portuguese sailors on your way to the
sake house.

They're also great for salami.

Bushcraftgregg

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Apr 7, 2009, 12:30:30 AM4/7/09
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On Apr 2, 11:46 pm, w...@panix.com (the wharf rat) wrote:
> In article <22b373fc-14de-4826-a3fa-6af78138d...@j8g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,

> Jasper Tiler  <slimier_t...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
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> >How can I craft a Japanese katana?
>
>         Find a meteorite.  Carefully heat it with fine charcoal until
> you can forge a bar of pure steel.  Now just fold that over itself 2500
> times and file off everything that doesnt' look like a sword.  Have your
> apprentice get a dead skate and make the handle.
>
>         Be careful not to bring pizza into the forge during the folding
> process or you might get a rapier.

There was a show on maybe last weekend that has that one guy with the
real long mustache that has his own shop and stuff, they say he is an
engineer, he tries to better things that are shown to him...I can't
remember the name of the show though.

But it was on the history and making of the "real" katanas in Japan.
Pretty cool show, I had no idea the process it takes to make one of
those in Japan, actually it is almost unbelievable. He went there and
watched and then comes back and tries to better theirs with our up to
date technology. Bottom line, it didn't work as well as theirs, close,
but no cigar.

Bushcraftgregg

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Apr 7, 2009, 12:39:58 AM4/7/09
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No doubt. Definitely a lot to go through (in Japan) just for that
sword.

Dwight E. Howell

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May 2, 2009, 11:23:54 PM5/2/09
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Now that is funny! Except in the crudest sort of way as in it sort of
looks like one at distance there isn't any way!

Dwight E. Howell

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May 2, 2009, 11:25:06 PM5/2/09
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But the real secret is the tempering!

Steven

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May 14, 2009, 2:17:08 PM5/14/09
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I can show you how to make one harder than my pecker gets when I think
of
breeding that mulatto niggra girl Mariah CArey.

Steven

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Jun 9, 2009, 11:37:38 AM6/9/09
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of breeding that mulatto niggra girl Mariah Carey.

DD

Good Soldier Schweik

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Jun 9, 2009, 8:25:02 PM6/9/09
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Who in God's world is Mariah Carey?

cheers,

Schweik
(goodsoldierschweikatgmaildotcom)

Erick Viles

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Jun 23, 2009, 4:16:52 AM6/23/09
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On Jun 9, 7:25 pm, Good Soldier Schweik <decypher.signat...@sig.line>
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> On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 08:37:38 -0700 (PDT), Steven
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> <steven_johnson789...@ymail.com> wrote:
> >Steven wrote:
> >> the wharf rat wrote:
> >> > In article <49d59d41$0$3253$afc38...@news.optusnet.com.au>,

> >> > Chilla  <charlesander...@optushome.com.au> wrote:
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> >> > >Why does anyone want to make a katana anyway?
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> >> >   To slice up peasants and Portuguese sailors on your way to the
> >> > sake house.
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> >> >   They're also great for salami.
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> > I can show you how to make one harder than my pecker gets when I
> >think
> > of breeding that mulatto niggra girl Mariah Carey.
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> >DD
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> Who in God's world is Mariah Carey?
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> cheers,
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a:) To craft a "Japanese" katana, you are to imply the same standards
will encompass your sword you are to craft. You will need two metals;
one prefferably Steel and the other, bare iron, (as long as one of the
metals is harder than the other(A legendary katana is fabled to be
crafted out of 'adamantine' and titanium)). Like stated before, there
will be a wiked long tempering period, but instead of 2500 folds, You
will need to temper each metal seperatley for about 1000-2000 times,
until it polishes smooth and solid. Next, you need to craft the two
metals into a shape in which they can fit into eachother; the softer
metal one in a V shape and the other in a triange to fit inside it.
This process needs to be done at +1200 degreesF. after hammered out,
the two metals should be solid together. You will need to temper this
new bi-metalic blade another 100 times. Now you should notice, the
blade will bendo on its own, as the softer metal wraps around and
forces the harder metal to bend back. when you finally have the blade
in the shape and feel you want, you must then paint the blade patern
on the blade of the sword (usually done with a special mix of charcoal
and another metalic powder (Zinc, magnesium, gold, silver). This is
what gives the blade a true identity, like a swords fingerprint, which
back in the days of fuedal Japan, the swords were crafted by only a
few certain smiths, each had their own personal touch they would put
on the sword in its final process. Now the sword must be heated to
well past 1500degreesF. The greatest tell you that the blade needs to
be glowing a brilliant, blinding white. This stage will be its last
temper, and it must be well past thirty minutes you heat it, then an
immediate run to the anvil to give it on last hammer, with an
immediate dunk. this is followed by a three day annointing in
polishing oil, which will finalize the blade into perfection. It is a
very rituallistic process only kept for those who truly appreciate the
art. ofcourse, you could sluf-off on a few hundred thousand tempers,
and who's gonna be the wiser?
b)It may cut salami, but salami is not so great for it. salami can
contain certain fibers that can abbraise the metal and eventually lead
to rusting.
c)no
d)go here> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariah_Carey

Chilla

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Jun 23, 2009, 11:49:36 PM6/23/09
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Erick Viles wrote:
> a:)You will need two metals; > one prefferably Steel and the other, bare iron, (as long as one of the

I don't know any Japanese sword maker that does the process you
describe. Can you tell me where you read this, because it's inaccurate.

If anyone tells you that they painted precious metals onto a sword blade
for a destructive process, they're just trying to increase the price,
don't believe it.

The bending you are describing is called "sabreing", it's where a long
hot straight blade is dumped into water horizontally, as opposed to
quenching vertically for straight blades.

If you get metal white hot you will destroy it's grain structure and
pretty much make it useless.


Regards Charles

Good Soldier Schweik

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Jun 24, 2009, 5:41:39 AM6/24/09
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To say nothing of tempering the blade thousands of times. Maybe it get
thousands of times harder? And a blade "crafted out of 'adamantine'
and titanium" - damn, I'll bet that is expensive :-)
cheers,

Schweik
(goodsoldierschweikatgmaildotcom)

Mr. V

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Jul 5, 2009, 2:31:30 PM7/5/09
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Katanas: not for the clumsy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPZW28L4deo&feature=rec-HM-rev-rn

that hurt dem bones

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