laguiole knives?
Chris
noticed afew "laguioles" with synthetic handles.
Went online, figuring maybe I could find something larger and fancier, as
the catalog knives only offered 2 & 1/2 inch blades.
Well, obviously, I found probably DOZENS of manufacturers, all having the
ubiquitous "bee" on the strap, all looking more or less identical to the
others.
My question, if any of you may know, which of the "Laguiole" companies is
legit? Or are they all? Assuming they're all allowed to make the knife,
who do you think makes the best, or better ones?
I found....
www.laguiole.com
www.laguiole-southwest.com
www.maison-laguiole.com
www.laguiole-elite.com
www.laguiole-france.com
Of course, some of these may be "distributors" of the others, or even all
distributors from one company. I'm just a tad confused. And yes, there
were PLENTY more links, but I stopped at the six. ;-)
Thoughts? Also, I've seen the knives available with alot of "rare" handle
materials, and in collector editions. Was wondering, is there any serious
value in terms of investment? A good hand-made knife is a treasure, but
some of these knives appear very elegant, as well as pricey.
Jeff Potter
legit. But you're right some are better than others. I bought one once
that was crappy. I'd say that the knives listed at these two sites
would all be very high quality. Enjoy!
http://www.cutlerytogo.com/frenchknives.html
http://www.worldknives.com/manufacturer.asp?manuid=2
As for investments, I dunno. A good knife has worth like any
utility/artisan object and probably holds value. Fame boosts value,
but I dunno if it can work like a commodity or anything, or even like
pure art. I suppose some samurai swords are bid on like Civil War
Colts. In general I don't find that outdoor sport collectibles do the
crazy market thing, but they do often hold good value. --Like I've had
pricey fish lures that were worth a lot and stayed worth a lot. Maybe
the growth is just slower. But I'm just blabbin'. I'm sure there are
pros here who can outline it all better.
Jacques
in 1829 (yep 1829) by Jean Calmel. He made it after modifying a spanish
knife. Since then all knifes resembling is pattern are called a Laguiole...
Like Kleenex...
To be a real Laguiole knife it must be 90% assemble in the city (or region)
of Laguiole in France. In that city, on main street, you can find 26 knives
boutiques all selling the Laguiole knife. They all look alike but material,
handywork and craftman ship separates the many beautifull knives. Nowaday
almost all parts are made in the three main industries on the region (La
Forge de Laguiole, La Maison du Laguiole and the third I forgot).
Before, all Laguiole where hand forged, assembled by pessants living on
farms around the city of Laguiole, they would do this as a "sideline" work.
Now the big industries have taken over. The many knife craftmen living in
Laguiole by parts all made by the industries (mostly the blades, mainspring
and bolsters) and build their knives according to their standards, finish,
materials.
I have visited that region and beleive me it's easy to see the difference
between a real Laguiole (if there is such a thing) and a Laguiole made in
Pakistan or China.
A "real" aguiole is a fine piece of art and craftmanship. It is a piece to
treasure a lifetime and pass on from generation to generation.
Yes they are pricy but you get the quality you pay for. All these knives are
hand finish, polish and sharpen. You can shave with any good Laguiole knife.
The spring is so strong it will not close on your finger accidently (normal
use). The obvious FLY or Bee (it's realy a fly) is either soldered on or
forged on the main spring, the later a sign of higher quality.
You like knives, spend the $$ and get a good quality Laguiole, just holding
it in your hand you will konw you have a piece of art and a fine knife.
I have several Laguiole along side my Puma, Case, CRKT, Spyderco and
others... and they stand out as precious jewels, finely crafted, flawless
beautifull knives.
Jacques
Quebec, Canada
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Chas
> As for investments, I dunno. A good knife has worth like any
> utility/artisan object and probably holds value. Fame boosts value,
> but I dunno if it can work like a commodity or anything, or even like
> pure art.
Sure- and it's like any other art, the ouevre has to be closed- no further
examples to be had; Scagel, Richtig, Nichols, H.H.Buck,......
> I suppose some samurai swords are bid on like Civil War
> Colts. In general I don't find that outdoor sport collectibles do the
> crazy market thing, but they do often hold good value. --Like I've had
> pricey fish lures that were worth a lot and stayed worth a lot. Maybe
> the growth is just slower. But I'm just blabbin'. I'm sure there are
> pros here who can outline it all better.
Outdoor sports collectibles went wild just a few years ago- exponential
growth in the value of everything from duck decoys to fishing collectibles,
old taxidermy, all the tools and implements- amazing.
Chas
Chris
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> Laguiole is not a make but a model of knife. The original Laguiole was
made
> in 1829 (yep 1829) by Jean Calmel. He made it after modifying a spanish
> knife. Since then all knifes resembling is pattern are called a
Laguiole...
> Like Kleenex...
Thanks much. :-)
> To be a real Laguiole knife it must be 90% assemble in the city (or
region)
> of Laguiole in France. In that city, on main street, you can find 26
knives
> boutiques all selling the Laguiole knife. They all look alike but
material,
> handywork and craftman ship separates the many beautifull knives. Nowaday
> almost all parts are made in the three main industries on the region (La
> Forge de Laguiole, La Maison du Laguiole and the third I forgot).
> Before, all Laguiole where hand forged, assembled by pessants living on
> farms around the city of Laguiole, they would do this as a "sideline"
work.
> Now the big industries have taken over. The many knife craftmen living in
> Laguiole by parts all made by the industries (mostly the blades,
mainspring
> and bolsters) and build their knives according to their standards,
finish,
> materials.
Like many things that have been made over the centuries, sadly. Big
business encroaches and takes the market under it's own control. I really
would like a Laguiole, so I will spend the $$, and feel the beauty for
myself.
> A "real" aguiole is a fine piece of art and craftmanship. It is a piece to
> treasure a lifetime and pass on from generation to generation.
As any quality tool or art object should be. :-)
> I have several Laguiole along side my Puma, Case, CRKT, Spyderco and
> others... and they stand out as precious jewels, finely crafted, flawless
> beautifull knives.
>
> Jacques
> Quebec, Canada
I treasure all of my knives. Most treasured are the ones I use as well as
admire.
floydoleary
make their steel on the soft side RC54 on their 440A or 12c27 . Nice to look
at but a tad to soft for a user. Nice to cut a sandwich or open a bottle of
wine. The carved ivory and other exotic materials are art. Their Damascus
and Damasteel is again made at lower RC then recommended by the steel
makers. Go figure !
Floyd
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Carl.
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> Laguiole are made in every province in France. The best are Gilles. They
> make their steel on the soft side RC54 on their 440A or 12c27 . Nice to
look
> at but a tad to soft for a user. Nice to cut a sandwich or open a bottle
of
> wine. The carved ivory and other exotic materials are art. Their Damascus
> and Damasteel is again made at lower RC then recommended by the steel
> makers. Go figure !
> Floyd
Doesn't anyone make "good" laguiole knives (as in blades made for cutting)
for a decent price? A decent slipjoint made with brass, wood, and average
steel should not cost more than about $30 US (probably less), but all of the
laguiole style knives I find are around $70.
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floydoleary
You ca buy them around 30+ and up depending what you want for handle
material. These will last many years. If a knife will not live up to the
primary use ( To cut, and hold an edge ) then it is really not a knife. It
might be an art object , and look like a knife but it does not complete it`s
primary function.
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Paul W. Ross
fall, and picked up a "Laguiole" pattern knife for about 20 Euros in
Germany. Nice workmanship, usual design -- blade, "bee," and cork
puller. Maker is
C. Jul. Herbertz. Stainless steel, laminated "rosewood" color scales.
Anybody know anything about this maker? I have always wanted one, but
was not prepared to spend $100 US or better.
Carl.
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Fred
after Boker. They have a strong reputation. They've tried to get
distribution in the U.S. but, so far, have been unsuccessful.
Fred
Knife Outlet
http://www.knifeoutlet.com
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Paul W. Ross
one of my favorites. Great for bread/cheese/wine as well as every day
uses.
Somebody commented on the L' knives being derived from Spanish knives.
Some years ago (2 weeks after 9/11 -- another story), I was in Spain
and picked up one of the local designs. Clearly the origin of the L'
design, in my opinion. Round cross section, same blade shape. Brass
liner, however. SS blade in this case.