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Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe

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Nov 15, 2006, 5:41:31 PM11/15/06
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so I took the plunge and sharpened one of my knives (just a little pen
blade) with a stone. I took my time and managed to get decent results,
finished it off with a quick polish on the smooth crock stick sharpener and
its shaving sharp now. The only thing is, despite making sure I kept the
blade at the correct angle when using the stone, I still got scratches on
the blade. The stone I used was a pretty cheap ass carborundum one and lots
of powder come off it, what would be a decent stone to get that would be
quite cheap?


alv...@xx.com

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Nov 15, 2006, 8:00:40 PM11/15/06
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Lachlan wrote:

Cool. :)

SiC stones tend to crumble etc and so you tend to get "stray"
scratches with them. Is that what you got? (dark grey)

AlOx is prob'ly what you're looking for.

And I have a "non" Norton (US made) one that I like better than my
Nortons.

Just try to not rely on one made in China is all.

Get a US/Canada-made or a UK-made (of course;) or Euro-made one and
it'll do fine. :)

I rarely use the "coarse" side of a my combination AlOx stones.

Remember the gal that needed to cut reeds for her woodwind
instrument and her single grit (fine) 6x2x1" Norton "India" stones
were all plugged up and she kept buying new ones? :) She boiled
them and fixed up the ones she had. :) Anyway, I bought one right
after that and it's pretty tough to beat, but is still pretty coarse
IMO.

Alvin in AZ

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Nov 16, 2006, 4:22:40 AM11/16/06
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I'm using a Norton Combination stone for the last ten years. When I'm at
home and have time I use the red side(fine) and when I'm out working I use
the grey side(coarse).
Lighten the pressure of the blade on the stone as it gets up to sharp.
I could care less about scratches anymore. Not for a knife I'm using
anyway.
Once you get to that point it takes all the stress out of sharpening :-)
Daithi

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Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe

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Nov 16, 2006, 6:41:11 AM11/16/06
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<alv...@XX.com> wrote in message news:ejgd7o$t1e$1...@reader2.panix.com...

Yeah, it's carborundum (SiC). It only cost about a pound or something ages
ago. I'll have a look on ebay for an Aluminium (notice the spelling ;o)
Oxide one. What about diamond ones, you know the metal ones with the little
round dots of diamond powder on them?


Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe

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Nov 16, 2006, 7:47:53 AM11/16/06
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As luck would have it...... I took the dog out for his morning walk and on
the way past the little hardware store I had a look in the window. And
found an 8" AlOx combination medium/fine grit sharpening stone for £1.99. I
had a couple of pounds in my pocket, so I thought what the hell and bought
one. At that price I'm not too fussed where it's made and it'll do until I
can afford a better one. Just tried it on that blade I was sharpening last
night and it seems to work fine. I just finished it on the medium, then
extra fine crock stick and it's scaring the hairs off my arm without having
to actually touch them.


Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe

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Nov 16, 2006, 11:15:18 AM11/16/06
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<alv...@XX.com> wrote in message news:ejgd7o$t1e$1...@reader2.panix.com...

Went to the big hardware store in town, the one that used to sell real guns,
but now only sell air rifles. It was broken into one night by IRA members
who stole all the pistols (before the outright handgun ban in the UK).
Anyway, in the sporting section they only had the tiny little sharpening
stones, so I went downstairs to the tool section. They had those Norton
India stones, but they are like £25, and the other Norton combination stone
they had was even dearer, so I didn't bother.
They also had these sharpeners which were little metal plates with diamond
dust, but the "extra fine" was only 400 grit, which, given that I am an
ex-stone polishing for a hobby type person is like housebricks. So it looks
like I might be buying the 1000 grit one I saw on ebay for £8. Either that
or I could get a block of glass and use my old jars of stone polishing
carborundum powder mixed with oil, then finish with cerium oxide powder if I
really want to kick the arse out of it. In fact, I have a block of glass
over at my brother's house, where all my jars of stuff are, going to see him
tomorrow maybe, so I could pick em up then.


Chas

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Nov 16, 2006, 2:30:36 PM11/16/06
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"Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe"
<toadfish@(nospam)beeb.net> wrote
>....Either that or I could get a block of glass and use my old jars of
>stone polishing carborundum powder mixed with oil, then finish with cerium
>oxide powder if I really want to kick the arse out of it. In fact, I have
>a block of glass over at my brother's house, where all my jars of stuff
>are, going to see him tomorrow maybe, so I could pick em up then.

Over here, there's a whole range of expensive stones called 'Scotch Stones'-
merchandised under names like 'Water of Ayr', 'Caledonia' and so on. I
remember, in another context, that Romans valued the stones from Scotland
for polishing/sharpening their swords- the stone was shipped back to Rome
for just that purpose, and big sharpening stones are very commonly found in
period digs of legionaries' barracks.
I bought mine years ago- the softest that they had, from a range of
hardnesses/grits- for silversmithing work. I remember them as being quite
expensive (relatively)- mine are about 5/16" by 4" or so, and were about 8$
each a few decades ago.
Seems an enterprising Scots lad could gather them for free with a bit of
research and an eye for it.

Chas


alv...@xx.com

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Nov 22, 2006, 12:15:03 PM11/22/06
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Lachlan wrote:
> As luck would have it...... I took the dog out for his morning
> walk...

What kind of dog?
Border terrier? :)

> ...and on the way past the little hardware store I had a look in

> the window. And found an 8" AlOx combination medium/fine grit

> sharpening stone for ?1.99. I had a couple of pounds in my

> pocket, so I thought what the hell and bought one. At that price
> I'm not too fussed where it's made and it'll do until I can afford
> a better one. Just tried it on that blade I was sharpening last
> night and it seems to work fine. I just finished it on the
> medium, then extra fine crock stick and it's scaring the hairs off
> my arm without having to actually touch them.

Cool we're turning you into a sharpening freak. :)

Next thing you know you'll be trying Steve's razor strop treatment.

Alvin in AZ

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