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deowll

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Jun 25, 2009, 9:29:48 PM6/25/09
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I left mine in my pocket after I mowed the yard. My cloths were soaking wet.
It cleaned up with a rust eraser all right but any thought that these things
won't rust is bogus. Getting damp with sweat and staying damp with sweat
overnight will get the job done. My sod buster is a little more rust
resistant.

DaveT

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Jun 26, 2009, 5:54:35 AM6/26/09
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Any stainless steel just stains less, you don't get the colours on the
blade you get with carbon blades caused by cutting food.
For a rust proof knife you need a metal like H1 that Spyderco uses on the
Salt knives-
quote
"A myth in the knife world is that, out there somewhere exists steel with
high-performance cutting abilities that cannot rust. A Japanese steel
foundry recently turned this myth into reality with the introduction of a
steel they call H1. H1 is a PH steel meaning it is a precipitation-
processed alloy, that's rolled hard without heat-treating and has .1%
nitrogen which acts like carbon in the steel matrix, but does not react
to chlorine making rust. Surprisingly, it holds a sharpened cutting edge
comparable to the premium knife steels being used in the industry by most
knife manufacturers."
So with the emphasis on chlorine it might be good for marine use but I
doubt it could take neglect without some sort of trouble. Never owned one
so I should not say.
Now't like giving any tool a quick rub down with an oily clothe after use.

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brianWE

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Jun 26, 2009, 12:00:41 PM6/26/09
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"DaveT" <jus...@private.org> wrote in message
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Have read about that.
I could be wrong, but I get the impression there is NO carbon.
IMO, that means it isn't a "steel".
Pedantic?
Maybe.
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Good Soldier Schweik

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Jun 26, 2009, 8:38:28 PM6/26/09
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On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:00:41 GMT, "brianWE" <edg...@bigpond.com>
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Correct though :-)

Another point is the mention of Chlorine. I always thought rust was a
reaction with oxygen. Oxidization.

Is there a chlorine related rust that effects metals commonly?

cheers,

Schweik
(goodsoldierschweikatgmaildotcom)

deowll

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Jun 26, 2009, 10:46:17 PM6/26/09
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"brianWE" <edg...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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I think you are right. I have read one article on the stuff by a guy who
didn't seem to understand exactly what he was dealing with but he said that
the carbon was out and the nitrogen was in.
I know enough about chemistry to know that nitrogen forms very strong bonds
so if bonded correctly the O2 might not be able to react with whatever the
heck this stuff is.

deowll

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Jun 26, 2009, 10:49:05 PM6/26/09
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"Good Soldier Schweik" <decypher....@sig.line> wrote in message
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Any "salt" can speed up the chemical reaction when in solution. There is
also some evidence that some chemotorphs can feed on iron/steel creating
rust but again they need moisture.

> cheers,
>
> Schweik
> (goodsoldierschweikatgmaildotcom)

DaveT

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Jun 27, 2009, 6:20:26 AM6/27/09
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On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:49:05 -0500, deowll wrote:

> "Good Soldier Schweik" <decypher....@sig.line> wrote in message
> news:9aqa459mdabjhlvq5...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:00:41 GMT, "brianWE" <edg...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>

snip


>> Is there a chlorine related rust that effects metals commonly?
>>
>>
> Any "salt" can speed up the chemical reaction when in solution. There is
> also some evidence that some chemotorphs can feed on iron/steel creating
> rust but again they need moisture.
>
>> cheers,
>>
>> Schweik
>> (goodsoldierschweikatgmaildotcom)

That is why I said marine, salt water is a bugger with blades even the
moisture in the air at the coast.
Rust means work to get rid of it but a properly maintained steel will be
caught before there is any real damage done. One of the things I do not
understand is why some one will pay extra to have a Damascus blade but
thinks a stained carbon blade is terrible.
After use give the knife a good wash under a fast running tap (cold
water) dry and wipe down with oil is all it takes to keep a blade of any
steel good for years. The oil just has to be a barrier to moisture and
air so anything can be used even cooking oil if you are using the blade
on food. It is just a smear that is needed. All the fancy lubes can have
a bad side to them, eat plastics or be poisonous or some thing else. They
were made to dispel moisture from places that could not be wiped (WD40
types) or be dry so they did not dirty their surroundings-(silicone
types) and cost a bomb! Anyhow half the pleasure (IMO) of having a knife
(or any other tool) is the maintenance.


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deowll

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Jun 30, 2009, 7:01:29 PM6/30/09
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"DaveT" <jus...@private.org> wrote in message
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Do you also like to clean the floor? 8^]

Lachlan - KotU

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Jul 3, 2009, 2:25:24 PM7/3/09
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>> Now't like giving any tool a quick rub down with an oily clothe after
>> use.


Exactly what I'll be doing tonight, rubbing my tool with an oily cloth ;o)

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