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RichD

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Oct 9, 2010, 8:54:35 PM10/9/10
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I see CRKT and Spyderco are the favorites on these
boards, but I was wondering about others.

A local Big 5 sport shop has "this week only" sale,
every week. They offer knives under $20, from
Schrade, S & W, Winchester, etc. Are these worth
while? They're mostly sealed in plastic, I can't
handle them. How to evaluate?


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Rich

Greg Wormald

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Oct 10, 2010, 12:23:41 AM10/10/10
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In article
<95de6974-3661-46a4...@x23g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
RichD <r_dela...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Most of the $20 knives are just $20 knives :-).

Most will be the cheap line, and probably made in China or Pakistan of
cheap steel with rough finishing.

If it's wrapped in plastic and you can't handle it, you can't evaluate
it. You could check for on-line reviews of a particular model, but most
reviewers won't bother with the cheap lines.

If you want a 'beater' to open paint tins and dig weeds from between the
paving stones they should do OK.

Greg

Rusty Hinge

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Oct 10, 2010, 4:53:00 AM10/10/10
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So would a meat skewer.

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Rusty

RichD

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Oct 10, 2010, 8:08:33 PM10/10/10
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On Oct 9, Greg Wormald <g...@not.myaddress.com> wrote:
> > I see CRKT and Spyderco are the favorites on these
> > boards, but I was wondering about others.
>
> > A local Big 5 sport shop has "this week only" sale,
> > every week.  They offer knives under $20, from
> > Schrade, S & W, Winchester, etc.  Are these worth
> > while?  They're mostly sealed in plastic, I can't
> > handle them.  How to evaluate?

> Most of the $20 knives are just $20 knives :-).


>
> Most will be the cheap line, and probably made in China
> or Pakistan of cheap steel with rough finishing.

Practically all the knives are advertised as 440 steel.
Comments?

> If it's wrapped in plastic and you can't handle it, you can't evaluate
> it. You could check for on-line reviews of a particular model,
> but most reviewers won't bother with the cheap lines.
>
> If you want a 'beater' to open paint tins and dig weeds
> from between the paving stones they should do OK.

That's more or less what I had in mind -

but it does raise the question: what makes
a quality knife, and what does one use it for?

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Rich

FLZapped

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Oct 10, 2010, 10:24:51 PM10/10/10
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On Oct 10, 8:08 pm, RichD <r_delaney2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Oct 9, Greg Wormald <g...@not.myaddress.com> wrote:
>
> > > I see CRKT and Spyderco are the favorites on these
> > > boards, but I was wondering about others.
>
> > > A local Big 5 sport shop has "this week only" sale,
> > > every week.  They offer knives under $20, from
> > > Schrade, S & W, Winchester, etc.  Are these worth
> > > while?  They're mostly sealed in plastic, I can't
> > > handle them.  How to evaluate?
> > Most of the $20 knives are just $20 knives :-).
>
> > Most will be the cheap line, and probably made in China
> > or Pakistan of cheap steel with rough finishing.
>
> Practically all the knives are advertised as 440 steel.
> Comments?

A, B, or C? Huge differences.

nurk_fred2000

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Oct 11, 2010, 1:08:06 AM10/11/10
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***55555 DickD...Our resident expert, Steve KOmbat Kramer (who's been
on an extended hiatus) fancies "cheap CD's" the are cracked in
half...According to "The Pink One" they have a nice handle to grasp
and a QUALITY "jagged edge for slashing"...:o)

Rusty Hinge

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Oct 11, 2010, 5:37:05 AM10/11/10
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Then you can get any old knife for a lot less from most hardware stores
or toolshops. I still have a knife I made from a kitchen knife with a
broken (plastic) handle in the 1950s. It has a leather-covered handle
and a leather-covered wooden sheath (kept poking it through the sides of
a plain leather one...)

It's not mutton dressed-up as lamb, it's mutton dressed as mutton, but
even though it's stainless steel, it keeps its edge well, and all it
cost me was an evening's work and a little glue.

> but it does raise the question: what makes
> a quality knife, and what does one use it for?

Fitness for purpose. The steel should be good, and hardened then
tempered to keep an edge, but have springiness, and, you wouldn't skin a
mouse with a kukri any more than you would try to conquer the jungle
with only a penknife.

Elegance, though desirable, is secondary.

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Rusty

Greg Wormald

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Oct 11, 2010, 6:59:03 AM10/11/10
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In article
<7b524ad5-8a92-4a1a...@n7g2000vbo.googlegroups.com>,
RichD <r_dela...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> but it does raise the question: what makes
> a quality knife, and what does one use it for?

Simple question--insanely complex answer!

How about an analogy?

You can buy a Bic pen in the supermarket for 19¢, or a Mont Blanc for
hundreds or thousands of times as much. The MB will write, it will
probably write smoother and better, and last longer, but the major
difference is in the pride of ownership.

Greg

RichD

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Oct 11, 2010, 6:22:13 PM10/11/10
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On Oct 10, FLZapped <FLZap...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > boards, but I was wondering about others.
>
> > > > A local Big 5 sport shop has "this week only" sale,
> > > > every week.  They offer knives under $20, from
> > > > Schrade, S & W, Winchester, etc.  Are these worth
> > > > while?  They're mostly sealed in plastic, I can't
> > > > handle them.  How to evaluate?
> > > Most of the $20 knives are just $20 knives :-).
>
> > > Most will be the cheap line, and probably made in China
> > > or Pakistan of cheap steel with rough finishing.
>
> > Practically all the knives are advertised as 440 steel.
> > Comments?
>
> A, B, or C? Huge differences.

C

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Rich

Del Cecchi

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Oct 12, 2010, 1:21:51 PM10/12/10
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"RichD" <r_dela...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Actually I prefer Kershaw.

The solution to your dilemma is to purchase it and if it is not
satisfactory, return it. You can look up the steel typically on the
internet.

They are almost certainly made in China but the Chinese can
manufacture a quality product if their customer wants them to.

Lachlan - KotU

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Oct 19, 2010, 4:59:40 PM10/19/10
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"RichD" <r_dela...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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A lot of the stuff from Sheffield is pretty good and very well priced too.
http://www.sheffieldknives.co.uk/

Lachlan - KotU

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Oct 19, 2010, 8:11:20 PM10/19/10
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"Lachlan - KotU" <ham...@gmail.invalid> wrote in message
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In fact, I'm going to get one of these when I can afford it.
http://www.sheffieldknives.co.uk/acatalog/info_17.html

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