Help ! Rigging for Peter Powell 4' delta
Nancy Casillas
I have resurrected my old peter powell 4' delta..... The problem is
that I've lost
the rigging recipe..... I basically need the dimensions from the
forward attachments
to the kite line, and from the kite line back to the tail attachment.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Please email any responses.
Thanks Alex
n...@utdallas.edu
G Engvall
> I have resurrected my old peter powell 4' delta..... The problem is
>that I've lost
>the rigging recipe..... I basically need the dimensions from the
>forward attachments
>to the kite line, and from the kite line back to the tail attachment.
>Any help would be much appreciated.
Have you ever seen one of those questions, where you knew, just how it was
phrased, it was dangerous to offer any help?
I just want you to know, before I wade in here, that your's fits in that
category. So here goes....
Basic delta stunter bridle configuration:
There are 2 long lines that run from the outside of the top spreader to where
the bottom spreader intersects with the spine. These should be approximately
the length of the leading edge of the kite.
There are 2 more lines (Outhauls) that run from the outsides of the bottom
spreader to just above the middle of the long lines. These should be
approximately half of the dimension of the long lines.
Hope that helps.
good heavens;
gary engvall
geng...@aol.com, http://members.aol.com/gengvall/index.html
Aero ergo sum. I fly, therefore, I am.
Peter de Jong
On 6 Apr 1998 22:55:22 GMT, geng...@aol.com (G Engvall) wrote:
>> I have resurrected my old peter powell 4' delta..... The problem is
>>that I've lost
>>the rigging recipe..... I basically need the dimensions from the
>>forward attachments
>>to the kite line, and from the kite line back to the tail attachment.
>>Any help would be much appreciated.
>
>Have you ever seen one of those questions, where you knew, just how it was
>phrased, it was dangerous to offer any help?
>
>I just want you to know, before I wade in here, that your's fits in that
>category. So here goes....
>
Hoi
Before you wade in, be sure to have the right boots on Gary.... LOL
A Powell is like a Trlby with the spar in front of the sail, a bit
Eddy like.
According to the Penguin ( http://kode.net/~craigfly/kites.html ) the
top lines should be 49 cm and the bottom lines 60 cm...
Can't do any better than that, because mine went to kite heaven almost
20 years ago.
Regards, Peter
PS: if you respond by e-mail be sure your domain
name is correct: to reduce spam my provider checks
it!
Peter de Jong <p...@xs4all.nl>
A&F Custom Kites Werkhoven NL
For kitebuilding tips: <http://www.xs4all.nl/~pdj>
Colin Douthwaite
On Tue, 07 Apr 1998 06:02:06 GMT, p...@xs4all.nl (Peter de Jong)
wrote:
>On 6 Apr 1998 22:55:22 GMT, geng...@aol.com (G Engvall) wrote:
>
>>> I have resurrected my old peter powell 4' delta..... The problem is
>>>that I've lost
>>>the rigging recipe..... I basically need the dimensions from the
>>>forward attachments
>>>to the kite line, and from the kite line back to the tail attachment.
>>>Any help would be much appreciated.
>>
>>Have you ever seen one of those questions, where you knew, just how it was
>>phrased, it was dangerous to offer any help?
>>
>>I just want you to know, before I wade in here, that your's fits in that
>>category. So here goes....
>>
>Hoi
>Before you wade in, be sure to have the right boots on Gary.... LOL
>A Powell is like a Trlby with the spar in front of the sail, a bit
>Eddy like.
>According to the Penguin ( http://kode.net/~craigfly/kites.html ) the
>top lines should be 49 cm and the bottom lines 60 cm...
>Can't do any better than that, because mine went to kite heaven almost
>20 years ago.
I can do better than that. :-)
I have in my possession a 1976 vintage Peter Powell with its
original bright yellow polythene plastic sail and aluminium spars,
still airworthy and still flying with the original factory settings
of the bridles unaltered.
There are only two vertical bridle lines, no outhauls, and there is
just one high-tensile spring spreader across the face of the kite.
The left-hand bridle is 113 cm total length with the tow-point brass
ring is set to give an upper bridle leg of 48.5 cm and a lower
bridle leg of 64.5 cm.
The right-hand bridle is 114.5 cm total length with the upper leg 49
cm and the lower leg 65.5 cm.
So you pays your money and you takes your pick as to which bridle
length you want to use. *8-)
With a 90 foot tubular inflatable tail the Peter Powell, the
original 2-line diamond stunter, is still one of the most
spectacular kites for putting on a public display but it does
need a fair bit of wind, 6 knots minimum perhaps.
It is a very dynamic kite...never still. I always enjoy flying it
when the wind is adequate for good performance.
Bye,
Peter de Jong
Hoi
On Wed, 08 Apr 1998 23:04:59 GMT, cf...@southern.co.nz (Colin
Douthwaite) wrote:
>
>With a 90 foot tubular inflatable tail the Peter Powell, the
>original 2-line diamond stunter, is still one of the most
>spectacular kites for putting on a public display but it does
>need a fair bit of wind, 6 knots minimum perhaps.
>
>It is a very dynamic kite...never still. I always enjoy flying it
>when the wind is adequate for good performance.
>
>Bye,
>
Hear hear!
If you got the alu frame you got one of the first: the kite that made
dual line popular.
You're so right: bet a stack of Powells could still be a tremendous
eye catcher.
Now it starts itching again: think it's time to find out what a Powell
would be like in ripstop or icky with carbon frame....already checked
the tube tails: they're still available.
Colin Douthwaite
On Wed, 08 Apr 1998 08:06:06 GMT, p...@xs4all.nl (Peter de Jong)
wrote:
>Hoi
>
>On Wed, 08 Apr 1998 23:04:59 GMT, cf...@southern.co.nz (Colin
>Douthwaite) wrote:
>
>>
>>With a 90 foot tubular inflatable tail the Peter Powell, the
>>original 2-line diamond stunter, is still one of the most
>>spectacular kites for putting on a public display but it does
>>need a fair bit of wind, 6 knots minimum perhaps.
>>
>>It is a very dynamic kite...never still. I always enjoy flying it
>>when the wind is adequate for good performance.
>>
>>Bye,
>>
>
>Hear hear!
>
>If you got the alu frame you got one of the first: the kite that made
>dual line popular.
>You're so right: bet a stack of Powells could still be a tremendous
>eye catcher.
>Now it starts itching again: think it's time to find out what a Powell
>would be like in ripstop or icky with carbon frame....already checked
>the tube tails: they're still available.
I've just ordered three 90 foot tubular tails in colours orange,
yellow and blue from Into the Wind, to add to the red tail I already
have, and, I picked up an imported new nylon ripstop sail pale
yellow/lime green/turquoise which carries the Peter Powell sewn-in
label.
The label reads:
---------------------------------------------------------------
MK2 SPARES PRICE LIST
---------------------
GBP
Bridle Set 1.25 ORDERS DESPATCHED
Cross Struts Pair 1.50 WITHIN FOUR DAYS
Centre Strut 1.75
Wing Set 1.75 ALL PRICES INCLUDE
Skystreamer 2.00 POST, PACKING AND V.A.T.
Sail Plastic 2.00
Sail Ripstop Nylon 9.00 UK ONLY
Nylon Two Tone 10.00
Handles/Line Pair 3.00 Remittance to:
One Centre Moulding 0.30 PETER POWELL INT. LTD.
P.O. Box 90, CHELTENHAM,
GL52 2AR
U.K. (0242) 862650
---------------------------------------------------------------
Now, of course, I do NOT know if the above info is still valid but
it is "U.K. ONLY". I think Peter Powell sold out his interests in
the USA and the old PP kites are no longer available there ?
The MK2 Peter Powell has a pair of cross-struts with a centre
dihedral moulding instead of the single high-tensile bow spring.
The centre-strut is of course the spine.
To make the entire frame for the new nylon ripstop sail I chose some
nice straight thin garden canes and made the dihedral fitting from
some metal tubing and used transparent polythene plastic tubing for
all other frame fittings. It flies.
The result is I now have an airworthy lightweight modern MK2 Peter
Powell in addition to the 1976 vintage model. :-)
I also re-read the instructions that came with the 1976 original
kite:
" Learners must avoid high winds but it is essential that a
constant and moderate wind of 10 to 15 mph is present. The stronger
the wind, the more responsive the kite will be to the controls. Once
experienced, the higher the wind the easier it is to perform stunts.
For skilled operators the tail can be left off so as to enable the
kite to fly in minimum wind conditions - less than 10 mph. "
Flying line lengths ? 200 feet.
Bye,
Bye,
Elmar Hoffmann
Hi,
on Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:55:13 -0600, Nancy Casillas wrote in Help ! Rigging for Peter Powell 4' delta:
> I have resurrected my old peter powell 4' delta..... The problem is
> that I've lost
> the rigging recipe..... I basically need the dimensions from the
> forward attachments
> to the kite line, and from the kite line back to the tail attachment.
> Any help would be much appreciated.
If You still need an answer (I now I'm late, but still have that ~2600
posts backlog - and everyday more new posts...), I may help You.
Nearly all answers to Your question either were just some general
advise or were about the widely known Peter Powell kite which looks
like a bigger Ace (or Eddy).
But You said 4' *delta*, and I have a ~130cm (~4') Peter Powell delta
somewhere at home, so if You still need the bridle dimensions, I'd go
and look for it next weekend or so (I didn't fly it during the last
years, its old, noisy, etc. - but I did - by accident that time -
some axle-like manoever with it - once I got my Stranger I knew what
that uncontrolled rotation was ;-).
elmar
--
/ /
/( <elho (at) gmx (dot) net> Public PGP key available /(
\( Member of Team *AMIGA* Crack RC5 now! \(
\ \