Very Old Stunt Kite
Steve O'Brien
English Dunford Flyer
Like what year it came out and ect. I know it was made in Britain. I
have two of them both have cloth like sails. One has the original price
tag on it and tag. Do they have any value to them as a collector kite?
Great Winds
Steve
Dave Salmon
Steve O'Brien wrote in message <36F37204...@presys.com>...
I don't know about the value side But the Flier was Designed by Squadron
Leader Don Dunford and Is still made as the Dunford Flying machine by
Cochranes of Oxford who have a web site at http://www.cochranes.co.uk the
company have in my experience been very helpfull to anyone enquiring about
old kites and have even supplied one of my freinds with copys of the
origional manuals on one occasion.
"Cochranes have been kite designers and innovators for over twenty years,
ever since they marketed the world's first stunt kite"The Dunford Flying
Machine"."
Hope it helped
Dave Salmon
Free Spirit Kites Pages
http://www.fsk.enta.net/index.html
Peter de Jong
wrote:
>"Cochranes have been kite designers and innovators for over twenty years,
>ever since they marketed the world's first stunt kite"The Dunford Flying
>Machine"."
Liars....
Regards, Peter
Peter de Jong <p...@xs4all.nl>
A&F Custom Kites Werkhoven NL
For kitebuilding tips: <http://www.xs4all.nl/~pdj>
Mark de Roussier
>On Wed, 24 Mar 1999 01:27:09 -0000, "Dave Salmon" <f...@enta.net>
>wrote:
>
>
>>"Cochranes have been kite designers and innovators for over twenty years,
>>ever since they marketed the world's first stunt kite"The Dunford Flying
>>Machine"."
>
>Liars....
>Regards, Peter
Care to explain that rather provocative remark ?
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Skip Parks
of Hang Gliding Mag, around 1976 or 77 there is an advert in it for two
line controlable delta kites made in ( i think)Fort Collins Colorado,
I'll dig it out and put it on my website in the next few days.
Skip Parks , Banshee Kite Co. http://members.tripod.com/~Bansheekites
Dave Salmon
>>ever since they marketed the world's first stunt kite"The Dunford Flying
>>Machine"."
>
>Liars....
>Regards, Peter
Agreed
but it's a good kite still methinks
what do you think came firstin the
"Dirigable" kites
Garber Target Kite
Nah
Carefull now
I might ask Tony (the oracle) Slater
trouble is he will tell me (like he does)
Dave Salmon
Mefiez du Cabillaud
Collette Lemons
Collette
> What do you think came firstin the
crai...@kode.net
> >ever since they marketed the world's first stunt kite"The Dunford Flying
> >Machine"."
>
> Liars....
> Regards, Peter
>
> A&F Custom Kites Werkhoven NL
> For kitebuilding tips: <http://www.xs4all.nl/~pdj>
your brevity is appreciated.
craig
>
>
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Richard Bettis
writes:
> what do you think came firstin the
> "Dirigable" kites
>
If I recall correctly, Pocock's original "buggy" (1700's?) was powered by a
multiline, dirigible kite.
I'm also sure that the devotees of the 'fighter' kite will resent any
suggestion that control = multiline (and they seem to be right...), so how far
back in history do these single line "stunt" kites go?
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Dave Salmon
>> "Dirigable" kites
Collette Lemons wrote in message <36F98B5D...@ionet.net>...
>So ask him already - now you have my interest aroused : )
>
>Collette
I did (cos he phoned for kite)
The 1st commercialy introduced 2 liner was the Glite.
says Tony and it sounds about right
I think the 1st 2 line steerable ever may have been one of Pocock's
certainly the the 1st 4line
as for dirigable (steerable kites) they must be old as history and then some
Unless of course you know different?
History is difficult stuff to chew
I like the Aerobian Steerable box though....Very weird lookin
Dave Salmon
Sling the man a Kipper
KitesMore
If I recall correctly, Pocock's original "buggy" (1700's?) was powered by a
>multiline, dirigible kite.
Well ,George Pocock did his first 'buggying'
in 1822 between Bristol and Marlborough. His 'buggy' was called CHAR VOLONT,
could seat up to 4 people and was powered by a 5m 'Arch Top Kite' (manoeuvrable
but single line to my knowledge). He achieved speeds up to 30kmh / 18mph.
Tight lines
got time - visit www.kitesmore.purplenet.co.uk
Steve O'Brien
Thanks again for the URL and info.....Boy did not mean to start a
contraversy...sheesh....some folks just take this kite stuff to
serious....hehe.....ya I almost got to that point to....now I am back to just
flying and having Fun Fun....Anyway have Fun......Steve
Dave Salmon wrote:
> >>"Cochranes have been kite designers and innovators for over twenty years,
> >>ever since they marketed the world's first stunt kite"The Dunford Flying
> >>Machine"."
> >
> >Liars....
> >Regards, Peter
>
> Agreed
> but it's a good kite still methinks
> what do you think came firstin the
> "Dirigable" kites
>
Goodwinds
>> "Dirigable" kites
>>
>> Garber Target Kite
>> Nah
Just to put some dateage on all these claims, I have a video of an instruction
film produced by the U.S. Navy dated 1947 showing the Garber target kite being
demonstrated. The instruction book looks like a telephone book and they were
obviously being produced since they had 25 kites lined up on the deck of the
ship.
I have also seen woodcuts of dual line indian fighter kites but these were not
dated. Inspiration leads to inspiration.
Kathy Goodwind
rec.kites
Coast Guard Kiteman
>Does Anyone in here no anything about an old stunt kite called the
>English Dunford Flyer
>Like what year it came out and ect. I know it was made in Britain. I
>have two of them both have cloth like sails. One has the original price
>tag on it and tag. Do they have any value to them as a collector kite?
>Steve
For what it's worth, I've got a book by Dunford called "KITE
COOKERY", copyright 1977. The book doesn't really cover
much of the "Dunford Flying Machine" (as it's called once
in the book), but it has a picture of him holding one
on the cover. So it was out before then.
My late maternal Grandmother bought me one
for Christmas years ago (AT LEAST as far back as 1977,
probably further), and that's the *first* kite I had that really
got my interest in kites. The one she gave me was
marketed by COX (the model airplane company),
if memory serves.
I've still got that one in pieces, plus another in
pieces that someone sent me. SOMEDAY
I'm going to get the both into flying shape.
-Allan "CGK" Gaines
North Carolina, USA
PS Notice how my posts always seem to END threads?
Depressing....
{i'm not roger maddy- really!}
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Maddys Two
PS Notice how my posts always seem to END threads?
Depressing....
{i'm not roger maddy- really!}
You're acting more like frank than roger. He used to wait until threads were
a week or two old, THEN end them.