Elixir for a beginner?
Marco Hanquart
Could you tell me if the Elixir is a good kite as well for a beginner??
Money is more or less "no object".
Thanks in advancd for your replies!!
Marco
The Mouseman
I personally would say no. It's wind range is 4 - 20 MPH, this makes it
very frustrating for beginners. Then also, it's not a very stable kite
which makes it a great kite for tricking. I would choose another cool
looking kite to learn with. If you want to stay with Prism Kites, go for
the Fanatic. Great to learn with, grows with your skill level, comes with a
line set, straps and a video to help you get started.
Mickey (The Mouseman) Nichols
Seattle Indoor Kitefliers
Urban Guerilla Fliers (UGFTMM)
http://www.oz.net/~mouseman
Mouse Pros Consulting
Marco Hanquart wrote in message <7ibvs1$lsc$1...@nickel.uunet.be>...
Dave Douglass
and not so much the precision then I'd say go for it. I find that it's a
blast to fly and has a very LARGE wind window. I fly it at around 2 (with
the nose spreader stick removed and a few adjustments) or it's perfectly
at home up around 16 or so. I can't say that about any of my other kites.
It's a pretty tough kite too.You might also consider the Jam Session for a
fine all around kite that you won't out grow.
Dave
Dave
In article <7ibvs1$lsc$1...@nickel.uunet.be>, "Marco Hanquart"
Steve
20MPH winds. I cand believe it did not explode. Gets an A+ from me in the
durability catagory.
Mrs. Robinson
it. learn what to do with it. push it to it's limits. yeah, you'll
bust it up some at first. the pains of love are many, but you and
your kite will pass through all that, and you shall know her as no one
else does.
Tom Arbster
difference between UP and DOWN, it is sorta sad to watch some body
spend a few hundred $$ and then try to make a fence post hole with
it..
I suggest getting a Dyna Kite for $30 to $40 and learn the up and
downs and left and rights, then get a $100 or a $200 or A $300 kite
and increase you skills after you learn the basics.
would you by you kid a new corvette for their first car??? or would
you get them a second hand pick-up truck
the Elixir is a very nice kite and flys very good, it is a shame to
trash something like that just because your skills are ready for it.
the Rainbow one are very pretty.
tom A.
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Steve wrote in message <7iej9q$a...@journal.concentric.net>...
>I saw Mark Reed baating the he__ out of one in grand haven last weekend in
>20MPH winds. I cand believe it did not explode. Gets an A+ from me in the
>durability catagory.
I was there also, watched Mark and took the lines. It made my buy list.
The only other Prism kite to have done so was the Alien. More of a Brit
high aspect kite feel. I would like to see if those new Skyshark rods can
really handle my clumsy abuse. For a beginner, no. Break something
cheaper, but you can order it at the same time. You save the shipping,
handling and gazing charges. You will be ready for it sooner than you
think.
Joe Rademaker
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WT
Wayne here, from the indoor flying in the hanger on Boeing Field. I may
disagree. If money isn't a problem, than I would not rate the Elixir any
better, but certainly no worse for a beginner than the 99 Fanatic. Both have
a spot where the turns tighten alot, and a beginner will over control. Hell
I over control the things, not to say I'm a good flier but I have my
moments. :^) However I tend to have the Fanatic actually turn it's back
towards me unintentionally alot more often than the Elixir, and I have more
time on the Fanatic. The Elixir being a larger kite will take the over
control a little more gracefully. Now the 98 Fanatic with the older Turbo
bridle is a little easier to fly, but the new Modified Turbo on the 99 is a
different beast. I'm not fully convinced it is better, but maybe.
WT
The Mouseman <mous...@WashingtonStateResident.oz.net> wrote in message
news:Qrl23.11540$M3.2...@news7.ispnews.com...
> Hi Marco,
>
> I personally would say no. It's wind range is 4 - 20 MPH, this makes it
> very frustrating for beginners. Then also, it's not a very stable kite
> which makes it a great kite for tricking. I would choose another cool
> looking kite to learn with. If you want to stay with Prism Kites, go for
> the Fanatic. Great to learn with, grows with your skill level, comes with
a
> line set, straps and a video to help you get started.
>
> Mickey (The Mouseman) Nichols
> Seattle Indoor Kitefliers
> Urban Guerilla Fliers (UGFTMM)
> http://www.oz.net/~mouseman
> Mouse Pros Consulting
>
>
> Marco Hanquart wrote in message <7ibvs1$lsc$1...@nickel.uunet.be>...
Kites&CO
> > >Could you tell me if the Elixir is a good kite as well for a beginner??
> > >Money is more or less "no object".
Even if money is no object i wouldn`t recommend an Elixir for a beginner. It`s
not the possibility to break expensive tube - it`s more the Elixir itself. In
advanced hands its a really fantastic kite (I love mine) but for a beginner to
learn the basics there are better bets. Try out a Fanatic (from Prism) - it愀 an
excellent kite to learn the trick basics with but is also suitable for a newbie.
Some of my friends made their first steps with the Fanatic and learned their
first tricks with it later on - for them (and for me) the Fanatic is still a
"first choice" kite (so you don`t have to sell the kite after a few month).
After some first month of flying and an extended skill level the Elixir will be
an excellent kite for you too.
regards
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Arthur Cross
- in which case I have to agree with Tom Arbuster and recommend a Dynakite
stuntmaster for getting the basics and developing the reactions required to
avoid 'biting the dust' and, when you do 'bite the dust', nothing self
launches easier than the Stuntmaster which saves a lotta energy so you can
fly longer. Also, it's a great kite to keep in your bag
for those high wind days when you shoulcn't fly anything else.BTW - get
youself a set of 80# Spectra lines and flying straps and don't bother with
the Dacron lines and plastic handles. (Sorry, John and Chris). The only
drawback I can think of, is, you'll need at least 6 mph to fly it. You can
try leaving the tail off in lower wind, but it doesn't help much. Another
thought - don't bother with any of the so-called 'beginner kites' under 6
foot wngspan - you'll find the larger kites generally easier to fly. The
slower the better 'til you really get comfortable with flying. Sorry I got
so long winded, and these are only opinions based on my own experience.
Art
Marco Hanquart wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Could you tell me if the Elixir is a good kite as well for a beginner??
> Money is more or less "no object".
>
Tom Baumgardner
> > > >Could you tell me if the Elixir is a good kite as well for a
beginner??
> > > >Money is more or less "no object".
> Try out a Fanatic (from Prism)
If money really is not an object and you know a few basics I would suggest
the Illusion. It is slower and more graceful than the fanatic and not as
big as the Prophecy. The Illusion is IMHO a better all around kite than any
of the kites mentioned which can go from precision to some awesome tricks.
I bought both the Illusion and the fanatic at the same time and have found
I rarely fly the fanatic but always return to the Illusion. If you are
still learning to keep a kite aloft and are prone to breaking spars, a kite
with extruded spars in the same size range of the Illusion would be better.
I have not flown the new Jam Session but have a lot of hours on the
original version which I feel is great starting kite. Since I bought my
first Illusion I rarely fly the Jam although I do take it out when I'm
teaching others. I hope this helps.
Tom
michael m. moss
(although I still have my first kite) basically I use it to teach with,
if a person can fly that little aruba (by Caribbean kites) then they are
welcome to fly anything else in my bags... That "beginner" kite just
flys that bad ;-( although it has never broken.
I also think that it is a good learning thing for folks to learn to
replace their own spars, fittings, ect and get a better "feel" for their
kite. My first "real" kite, an IQ by legends, I just kept bringing it
back to the shop where I bought it and the person just kept putting in
whatever was handy at the time, and I never really noticed the
degradation of performance until I basically got bored with it and
stopped flying for a couple years. when I started again the whole frame
basically exploded. I brought it to a local kite guru and he laughed
his butt off - no two sticks were the same! He framed it in g-force
ul's for me at just the cost of the rods.
since that kite, I do all the work on my own kites, use the right parts
(sometimes screw up and put the bridal on wrong - but learned a lesson
there too)
So I think it's ok to buy a decent kite that will be with you for years,
learn how to do your own repairs, get some help at first if needed, and
in the end you will have alot pleasanter experience than just holding on
to the strings.
Just my thoughts
Mikey luvs ya!