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Dopey Donkus

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Pardon my ignorancem for in my personal opinion, kite flyings are for
small kids. But now I notice that even adults fly kites. I wonder why?
Could it be that some adults never grow up? I could be wrong. Could
any adults who love to fly kites let me know why they indulge in such
activity?

Tom Arbster

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Ref the below.

when you were a kid didn't you (think) you knew more than your
parents?

and if you have kids now, don't they think that they know more than
you.

Well when we get old and set in our ways, we think "I" would "LOOK"
(fill in the blank) -_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ (silly, foolish, dumb,
stupid, childish) if we do certain things, resulting in loosing out in
a lot of good times :-(

the bottom line is: LIFE is FUN, if you get out and enjoy it. and
the people who do enjoy it, enjoy being around other people, who enjoy
it also :-)

Kite flying is FUN, watching Kites Fly is FUN, and each and every day
some body is comings up with a NEW and different kite.
every body likes to see the new models of"CAR"s when they come out
but they COST so much most people can only get one every now and then
:-(
but Kites are something else, one is never enough, you just need one
MORE :-)


So when you tell somebody to "GO FLY A KITE" you may just make them a
HAPPY Person :-) and put a smile on their face.

just my thoughts:

tom A.

On Sun, 21 Feb 1999 13:01:11 GMT, dovek...@email.com (Dopey Donkus)
wrote:

Regards
tom A. the "KITEMAN"
e-mail kit...@telepath.com
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Phil Hurman

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I'm with Tom on this one. I'm a novice flyer at 40 and I can honestly say
that it is the most enjoyable pasttime.After a stressful day at work there
is nothing quite like standing on a windswept beach watching a kite flitting
across the shoreline or watching it dance in the wind. After running a busy
P.C. helpdesk kite flying is heaven. Anyway why am I saying this.....Go out
with someone who owns one of these things and have a go. I guarantee you
will be back for more....I did!

Phil
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Terry GizmoGerweck

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In article <36d001b...@news.cyberway.com.sg>, dovek...@email.com
(Dopey Donkus) wrote:

> Pardon my ignorancem for in my personal opinion, kite flyings are for
> small kids. But now I notice that even adults fly kites. I wonder why?
> Could it be that some adults never grow up? I could be wrong. Could
> any adults who love to fly kites let me know why they indulge in such
> activity?

Your personal opinion seems to be shared by many "allegedly grown up and
so called sane adults" I mean who in their right mind would leave the
blue glow of their beloved television sets to go outdoors and do something
that doesn't destroy anything while using no fossil fuels.

I fly because I can.

Don't know where it came from but someone once said that,

"You don't get old and stop playing but you can stop playing and get old"

Terry "Gizmo" Gerweck

Dopey Donkus

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Very interesting ... mmmm.... the Kids to-day are better educated when
they grow up and, therefore, do know more than their parents ... if
cannot accept this fact then obviously there is generation gap
somewhere!

Besides the twirling of fingers, flexing of arms and jumping up and
down like frogs what does one really get out of kite flying? Where
some may spend a few dollars on a kite (which is reasonable) there are
others who would not hesitate to waste thousands of dollars on giant
kites. Don't you think this to be wasteful? It would have served a
better purpose if such money could be accumulated and donated to the
poor of our respective Countries!

History had shown men to have indulged in kite flying, in the past but
in the past people are less educated and have naothing better to do.
It does not mean that we the modern day adult should ape what men did
in the past! Perhaps in the past those men never grew up and out of
their childhood I should think. Being what we have become today,
surely men could better plan their leisure activites and indulge in
something that would apart from providing some fun also keeps him fit!

I used to fly kites when I was a kid but not now ...I personally think
that as we mature we should also change our attitude towards uselss
thing like flying of kites and wasting thousands of dollars just to
organise Kite Festivals ... for whose benefit but the business people!

I think it time we outgrow our childhood instead of clinging to it as
if there are no better pastimes around!


On Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:09:06 GMT, kit...@telepath.com (Tom Arbster)
wrote:

>Ref the below.
>
>when you were a kid didn't you (think) you knew more than your
>parents?
>
>and if you have kids now, don't they think that they know more than
>you.
>
>Well when we get old and set in our ways, we think "I" would "LOOK"
>(fill in the blank) -_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ (silly, foolish, dumb,
>stupid, childish) if we do certain things, resulting in loosing out in
>a lot of good times :-(
>
>the bottom line is: LIFE is FUN, if you get out and enjoy it. and
>the people who do enjoy it, enjoy being around other people, who enjoy
>it also :-)
>
>Kite flying is FUN, watching Kites Fly is FUN, and each and every day
>some body is comings up with a NEW and different kite.
>every body likes to see the new models of"CAR"s when they come out
>but they COST so much most people can only get one every now and then
>:-(
>but Kites are something else, one is never enough, you just need one
>MORE :-)
>
>
>So when you tell somebody to "GO FLY A KITE" you may just make them a
>HAPPY Person :-) and put a smile on their face.
>
>just my thoughts:
>
>tom A.
>

>On Sun, 21 Feb 1999 13:01:11 GMT, dovek...@email.com (Dopey Donkus)


>wrote:
>
>>Pardon my ignorancem for in my personal opinion, kite flyings are for
>>small kids. But now I notice that even adults fly kites. I wonder why?
>>Could it be that some adults never grow up? I could be wrong. Could
>>any adults who love to fly kites let me know why they indulge in such
>>activity?
>

Dopey Donkus

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Hmmm...know something, I sued to be a Sports Kite flyer but although I
excel in it I still did not enjoy flying a kite! If one need to get
rid of work stress than a good game of tennis, squash or batminton
will do. If one need some peace after ahard day's work there is
nothing more soothing than to watch fishes swimming in an aquarium.

Besides twirling of fingers, flexing of arms or jumping up and down
like frogs, I do not see much fun or pleasure in kite flying and this
comes from someone who had flown kites for 15 years ... and looking
back I can sadly say I had wasted my time. It may be nice to watch
someone fly a kite but believe me it will not be the same if you were
to do it and you know why ... because you have to spend hard earned
money for such activity. And wasting money is not FUN ... at least I
personally think so. Of course people are entitled to their opinion.
Just thinking out aloud and reflecting on my past! No offence meant,
please.


On Sun, 21 Feb 1999 20:27:38 -0000, "Phil Hurman" <ph...@mindless.com>
wrote:

>I'm with Tom on this one. I'm a novice flyer at 40 and I can honestly say
>that it is the most enjoyable pasttime.After a stressful day at work there
>is nothing quite like standing on a windswept beach watching a kite flitting
>across the shoreline or watching it dance in the wind. After running a busy
>P.C. helpdesk kite flying is heaven. Anyway why am I saying this.....Go out
>with someone who owns one of these things and have a go. I guarantee you
>will be back for more....I did!
>
>Phil
>Dopey Donkus <dovek...@email.com> wrote in message
>36d001b...@news.cyberway.com.sg...

Dan Carey

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Go away Roger Maddy


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Dopey Donkus

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Touche' ... the first sensible comment that I received. Many thanks
for the comment. I agree with you but then you set me thinking, why
did I wasted all my money on kites before... must be out of my mind, I
suppose. Cheers!

On Sun, 21 Feb 1999 18:30:49 -0500, t...@tdi.net (Terry "Gizmo"Gerweck)
wrote:

>In article <36d001b...@news.cyberway.com.sg>, dovek...@email.com
>(Dopey Donkus) wrote:
>

>> Pardon my ignorancem for in my personal opinion, kite flyings are for
>> small kids. But now I notice that even adults fly kites. I wonder why?
>> Could it be that some adults never grow up? I could be wrong. Could
>> any adults who love to fly kites let me know why they indulge in such
>> activity?
>

Dopey Donkus

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Tst..tsk ... do not place me in the Killfile section ... let's
generate some interesting conversation here and make this Newsgroup
much more interesting. Current most of the discussions are boring
don't you agree? So let's liven it up a wee bit! Cheers Mon Ami!

On Sun, 21 Feb 1999 18:46:15 -0500, "Dan Carey" <dca...@tp.net> wrote:

>Go away Roger Maddy
>
>
>Dopey Donkus wrote in message <36d001b...@news.cyberway.com.sg>...

Don Hansberger

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This is like the saddest thing I have ever heard of.


Dopey Donkus wrote:

> Very interesting ... mmmm.... the Kids to-day are better educated when
> they grow up and, therefore, do know more than their parents ... if
> cannot accept this fact then obviously there is generation gap
> somewhere!
>
> Besides the twirling of fingers, flexing of arms and jumping up and
> down like frogs what does one really get out of kite flying? Where
> some may spend a few dollars on a kite (which is reasonable) there are
> others who would not hesitate to waste thousands of dollars on giant
> kites. Don't you think this to be wasteful? It would have served a
> better purpose if such money could be accumulated and donated to the
> poor of our respective Countries!

The kites that I have are by no means Garbage/waste. My kites are precision
works of art.
I work very hard for the money that I have and I could not afford to give my
money away so I figure I should enjoy life a little.

>
>
> History had shown men to have indulged in kite flying, in the past but
> in the past people are less educated and have naothing better to do.
> It does not mean that we the modern day adult should ape what men did
> in the past! Perhaps in the past those men never grew up and out of
> their childhood I should think. Being what we have become today,
> surely men could better plan their leisure activites and indulge in
> something that would apart from providing some fun also keeps him fit!

If you flew my stack of Team Chevron's in figure eight's for like 15
minutes, maybe you would think different. This is the problem with some
people today; is that they go through life, Uneducated about a subject; but
they still judge people and there methods. How can people judge with out all
the facts. How can people go through life with blinders on. Kites are the
the best things that have ever come my way and I enjoy them very, very much.

>
>
> I used to fly kites when I was a kid but not now ...I personally think
> that as we mature we should also change our attitude towards uselss
> thing like flying of kites and wasting thousands of dollars just to
> organise Kite Festivals ... for whose benefit but the business people!

For the personal benefits also. I started out having fun fly's and think it
is the great way to meet people. Just getting together annually and sharing
makes for a life time of memories. It's nice to have friends and memories.

>
>
> I think it time we outgrow our childhood instead of clinging to it as
> if there are no better pastimes around!

Example??? above!

Kites are the best past time alive today but many people just don't realize
it yet. I could not believe how many people in my area that fly kites. I
thought it was just big in California till I started doing research. Kites
have many aspects to them like teaching, science, math, history, art,
ecology, and aesthetics. After learning to fly them and enjoying them you
can go to the next step of the hobby and build them. I just can't beat the
thrill of being one with part of nature. I was never much to even pay
attention to the wind but now I notice each and every puff of wind. You
usually don't pay much attention to what you can't see but when it becomes a
deciding factor of what you will do today it magnifies your senses to become
more aware.

I can't list all the good points of kites and kiting because there just too
many. You do the research and try flying a $300 kite and if you still feel
the same then please try to keep you opinions to your self. I have never
replied to a flame before because I believe this news group is better left
for education and not gripes. I can't believe that I even replied to this
post but It just heart me very deeply.


--
May the wind always be over your shoulders!!
Donald Hansberger
Blossvale, New York

Member: AKA, SRKC & NYKE
Host of the Central NY Fun Fly!
In love with Ultra Light Kite Flying!

My Web Page address: http://home.earthlink.net/~hamboogie/


Matt Vaughn

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and the killfile grows. . .

Joe Rademaker

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I fly because I find it difficult to Windsurf anymore, to expensive, knees
are weak, middle aged spread, and live to far from the water now.

The kites bring the same kind of grin to this weather beaten, time ravaged
face, but I do miss the adrenaline rush of a good broad reach on a slalom
board in 25-35 knots of air.

I know buggying would supply the same rush, but the first paragraph takes
care of that, especially the money part.

Can you set up a kill file to filter a post that mentions kill file?

Joe Rademaker desultory required quip
Kokomo Joe Tai'nt no gravity, the earth sucks

Arnold Christensen

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I flew kites as a kid. Then I grew up. In my mid-50's my Brother handed
me the lines to his full size dual line and the next day I bought my
first kite in many moons and my first stunt kite. I was hooked. I found
that I could fly my kite after work and all the cares of the day faded
away. Didn't need to trick it, still can't, just fly the thing and enjoy
life. Found out I got enough earning power I can buy any kite I want.
Find that to be infinetly better than standing on a corner lying to
people by saying I will work for money or food when they won't. I give
to organizations that which I want to. I keep more for me and my family.
That's the way it is.

Not enough bandwidth here to talk about all the fine people and kids I
have met when flying my kites, in a field alone, or at a festival of
some sorts. Great people. From Texas to Maine, over the internet, taught
a friend how to fly a dual line from a potatoe field with 3' of packed
snow on it.

I found the kid in me again, tempered with an adult view of life. I also
found a bunch more just like me.

My question would be if it is such a waste of time, money and effort why
is Dopey Donkus on this NG? Perhaps he needs to find more time to
understand.

Chris the Bigfoot

Brent Cooper

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Feb 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/21/99
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I don't know who this "Dopey" guy is but he can sure cause the start of a
long thread. As long as he doesn't hammer to hard on people I don't
see the harm. I just picture him sitting there in front of the monitor
laughing and feeling smug. :-)
Oh ya....and he understands!

S.K. Brown

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why do I fly kites? It beats trolling NGs for cheap thrills.
~Steve

Tom Arbster

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Hi Dopey,

ref your response, to my response, to your original question,

sounds to me, that you don't have much fun lately, sorry that you
don't get much pleasure out of doing some of the simple things in
life, like "FLYING A KITE" and being around others who enjoy what they
are doing.

maybe we should all stop buying the "NEW" Cars and let the
government's take that $12 to $20 a day we pay for them, increase our
tax's more, and put that money into the Welfare system :-(
( and call that Donations to the poor ) that is what I would call
wasting money.

tom A

On Sun, 21 Feb 1999 23:35:28 GMT, dovek...@email.com (Dopey Donkus)
wrote:

>Very interesting ... mmmm.... the Kids to-day are better educated when
>they grow up and, therefore, do know more than their parents ... if
>cannot accept this fact then obviously there is generation gap
>somewhere!
>
>Besides the twirling of fingers, flexing of arms and jumping up and
>down like frogs what does one really get out of kite flying? Where
>some may spend a few dollars on a kite (which is reasonable) there are
>others who would not hesitate to waste thousands of dollars on giant
>kites. Don't you think this to be wasteful? It would have served a
>better purpose if such money could be accumulated and donated to the
>poor of our respective Countries!
>

>History had shown men to have indulged in kite flying, in the past but
>in the past people are less educated and have naothing better to do.
>It does not mean that we the modern day adult should ape what men did
>in the past! Perhaps in the past those men never grew up and out of
>their childhood I should think. Being what we have become today,
>surely men could better plan their leisure activites and indulge in
>something that would apart from providing some fun also keeps him fit!
>

>I used to fly kites when I was a kid but not now ...I personally think
>that as we mature we should also change our attitude towards uselss
>thing like flying of kites and wasting thousands of dollars just to
>organise Kite Festivals ... for whose benefit but the business people!
>

>I think it time we outgrow our childhood instead of clinging to it as
>if there are no better pastimes around!
>
>

>>>Pardon my ignorancem for in my personal opinion, kite flyings are for
>>>small kids. But now I notice that even adults fly kites. I wonder why?
>>>Could it be that some adults never grow up? I could be wrong. Could
>>>any adults who love to fly kites let me know why they indulge in such
>>>activity?
>>

Bigpaulsi

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I live in Staten Island New York. Today it was 25 degrees out there. The winds
were 20 MPH. I was out there from 10 AM to 3 PM flying kites. It was snowing. I
loved it. I felt even better when an adult and a couple of kids stopped to
watch me. Than they left. They came back about 20 minutes later with there own
trunkload of kites. The snow was blowing sideways and we had a sky full of
kites. What a day. I love to feel the power of the wind in the palm of my hand.
And decorate the sky with dancing art.
My kites are like my pets. They are living things and they even have
personalties. My Brother is a quadriplegic. He cant walk and he has limited use
of his arms. But I can secure a couple of kite straps to his wrist and he is
dancing in the wind. That big 8 foot stunter almost took him out of his chair
though. He had a blast. Its fun that's all you need to know.
BigPaul

Rich Kraus

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Feb 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/22/99
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because kites are fun, of course.

what better way to help forget about the things you have to do all week.
some play golf to ease their minds, i like kites. besides, the wind's free
and green fees are not. in the mood for something more phisical? fly a
bigger kite, or get on your buggy, or even go fly indoors and run around
for a while. kites are as varried as your imagination. from traditional
kites like diamonds, an edo, or a cody compound, to an exotic stunter,
theres a kite for every taste. (and budget- those plastic gala deltas fly
pretty good for a couple of bucks. keep a couple in your bag so nearby
kids can join in the fun.)

have i never grown up? maby not, but is that a bad thing?

i could think of lots worse ways to waste my extra money and time, but
kites are the best, and this is one thing im not embarassed to teach my
child. how many other facets in society are we afraid our kids will find
out about? i hope they all find out about kites.

an activity that's safe (well mostly), inexpensive (well, at least till you
get the bug REALLY bad), and relaxing....whats not to like?
--

'till next time,
Rich

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JEB1954

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Maybe I never grew up. I consider myself lucky, and I pity you.
Jerry

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dovek...@email.com (Dopey Donkus) writes:
>Besides the twirling of fingers, flexing of arms and jumping up and
>down like frogs what does one really get out of kite flying?

What does one get out of ANY activity one calls a sport or a hobby?

Personally, I think collecting stamps or baseball cards is boring, but lots of
people find it an enjoyable hobby...who am I to cast any aspersion on what
they personally find gives them bliss?


>some may spend a few dollars on a kite (which is reasonable) there are
>others who would not hesitate to waste thousands of dollars on giant
>kites. Don't you think this to be wasteful? It would have served a
>better purpose if such money could be accumulated and donated to the
>poor of our respective Countries!

And how much money is spent by golfers on THEIR hobby? Wouldn't it be better
if they too donated the cost of their clubs and country club fees to feed the
poor? Joggers should stop buying expensive jogging shoes, tennis players not
buy expensive tennis rackets, skiers give up their expensive skis and poles,
NO ONE should pursue ANY hobby, because it all gets so very expensive, it's
'too much money' to be spent on something frivolous, isn't it?


>History had shown men to have indulged in kite flying, in the past but
>in the past people are less educated and have naothing better to do.
>It does not mean that we the modern day adult should ape what men did
>in the past!

Guess that means no one should go camping, either, as there's no longer a
reason to go out into the woods and live in a tent...

Heck, that even eliminates barbecuing...why should we 'ape' how our ancestors
cooked, let's all just nuke our nutrition in the microwave...

Why should anyone sail on a sailboat, when we now have modern speedboats?

Let's kill all the horses...no need for them, we now have fossil-fuel-
burning vehicles to transport us...


>Perhaps in the past those men never grew up and out of
>their childhood I should think. Being what we have become today,
>surely men could better plan their leisure activites and indulge in
>something that would apart from providing some fun also keeps him fit!

Like bowling, perhaps?

Or fishing?

Why should the goal of any leisure activity be one of 'keeping fit'? What's
wrong with enjoyment for the sake of enjoyment?

What's wrong with doing something which provides ENTERTAINMENT for those
passing by?

What is wrong with doing something solely for the sake of the ART involved?


> I used to fly kites when I was a kid but not now ...I personally think
> that as we mature we should also change our attitude towards uselss
> thing like flying of kites and wasting thousands of dollars just to
> organise Kite Festivals ... for whose benefit but the business people!

So, we should have tennis and golf tournaments instead?

You've made it clear you personally don't like flying kites...but what makes
you think you have the right to dictate how anyone else spends their time (or
their money)...?

As a matter of fact, I didn't like flying kites as a kid...it's a passion I've
developed only as an adult...

And most kids, I've noticed, find flying kites 'boring'...


> I think it time we outgrow our childhood instead of clinging to it as
> if there are no better pastimes around!

'Better' is purely a subjective term...


June

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In article <eW0A2.155$JO1...@news12.ispnews.com>, "Dan Carey" <dca...@tp.net>
writes:

>Go away Roger Maddy

jeez, i was surprised it took that long, what, 3 or 4 posts.

rock rock on Ro Ger.

Interesting responses though. Don't you think it is strange you have to troll
for them? Why hide behind bushes?

Count to 100, we'll come find you. . .


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Dopey Donkus

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Yes why, why,why indeed! Just goes to show how crazy we humans are!

Dopey
On 22 Feb 1999 02:16:16 GMT,

Doug

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Dopey Donkus wrote in message <36d001b...@news.cyberway.com.sg>...
>Pardon my ignorancem for in my personal opinion, kite flyings are for
>small kids. But now I notice that even adults fly kites. I wonder why?
>Could it be that some adults never grow up? I could be wrong. Could
>any adults who love to fly kites let me know why they indulge in such
>activity?

If you have to ask you'll never understand.

Si

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Dopey Donkus wrote in message <36d0947...@news.cyberway.com.sg>...

>Very interesting ... mmmm.... the Kids to-day are better educated when
>they grow up and, therefore, do know more than their parents ... if
>cannot accept this fact then obviously there is generation gap
>somewhere!

Im not sure on that one.. better educated, if you can call using a pc to
play games on better educated then maybe, Education doesnt replace the
wisdon and experience of life. Maybe their Schooling is better but that
deosnt make them know more than any parent!

>
>Besides the twirling of fingers, flexing of arms and jumping up and

>down like frogs what does one really get out of kite flying? Where


>some may spend a few dollars on a kite (which is reasonable) there are
>others who would not hesitate to waste thousands of dollars on giant
>kites. Don't you think this to be wasteful? It would have served a
>better purpose if such money could be accumulated and donated to the
>poor of our respective Countries!


Wasting thousands of pounds or dollars buying kites. Look at it this way,
you spend a friday night or sdaturday night in your local pub (or bar !) you
spend on average £20 pounds on buying beer (call it $30) each night. You
do that Friday and Saturday night
thats £40 (0r $60) over a year thats £2000 or $3000 - To simply fill the
countries sewage system up .. yet millions of people do it .. they come away
with what .. a bad head the following morning .. now im not knocking it by
the way!

So spending money on kites is only a waste *if* you think its a waste,
spending money on alcohol, golf, computers, cars - following your favourite
band around the country, world is only a waste if *you* think its a waste.
.. the person doing it gets pleasure out of it, and at the end of the day
thats what its about .. enjoying yourself.


>
>History had shown men to have indulged in kite flying, in the past but
>in the past people are less educated and have naothing better to do.

Wathcing TV, sitting in front of your computer is the 'better' thing to do?


>It does not mean that we the modern day adult should ape what men did

>in the past! Perhaps in the past those men never grew up and out of


>their childhood I should think. Being what we have become today,
>surely men could better plan their leisure activites and indulge in
>something that would apart from providing some fun also keeps him fit!

The world is a mad place, full of people who live stressful lives, spending
10 -12 hours a day sat on there ass in front of computers or slaving away
on cars or building sites. Kite flying is a great way ,, and one of many ..
to relive the stress, its not childish in anyway..

>I used to fly kites when I was a kid but not now ...I personally think
>that as we mature we should also change our attitude towards uselss
>thing like flying of kites and wasting thousands of dollars just to
>organise Kite Festivals ... for whose benefit but the business people!

Every hobby benefits the business people more than the hobbyist .. yes the
hobbyist gets their enjoyment out of it but the business man gets his
profit.. the world in the most part is profit oriented.


>
>I think it time we outgrow our childhood instead of clinging to it as
>if there are no better pastimes around!


Why do you liken kiteflying to a childhood thing. If a child were to fly my
paradox, my Outerspace, my pyshco they'd end up being dragged off down the
beach or quickly let go of the lines .. not all kids of course, but a
majority couldnt handle those kinds of kites.

Kiteflying is only boring or childish if *you* think it is. If we all likes
the same things the world would be one hell of a boring place now dont ya
think

Si
,

>>>Pardon my ignorancem for in my personal opinion, kite flyings are for
>>>small kids. But now I notice that even adults fly kites. I wonder why?
>>>Could it be that some adults never grow up? I could be wrong. Could
>>>any adults who love to fly kites let me know why they indulge in such
>>>activity?
>>

Tom Arbster

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Hi Tom,

did you notice this Troll "DOPEY" is even ashamed of his real name,
and uses a dopey alious (SP)
its kinda hard to talk to people when they don't know who they are,
and have to pretend they are somebody else, I wonder if they sometime
don't pretend they are "real" people.


tom A.

On Tue, 23 Feb 1999 02:50:01 +1100, Tom Holloway
<To...@bigpond.com.nospam> wrote:

>I mean why else whould you do it? It sure is more enjoyable than something
>boring like collecting wine! hehe maybe Im just one of those adults
>"..who never grow up..".

Jean Lemire

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Hi Dopey Dunkus, hi folks.

I agree that observing fishes in an aquarium is relaxing, that's why I have
five aquariums (or aquaria) at home. But what I like the most is kites.
Kites at large, that is:

- Meeting other fellow kiters at kite festivals;

- Flying kites;

- Designing kites and building them;

- Reading about the world of kites;

- Etc...

I do not consider kites more childish than many other activities (activities
include sports and all other hobbies you may think of).

Talking of sport, I consider a lot of sport boring because of the limited
variations involved. Many sports inply violence. Why, because there is
competition and too often, money. Even amateur sport can degenerate in
fight sometimes. I have not seen any kiteflyers fight. Maybe some rough
play in Rokkaku battles but never to the point of knocking out another.

If I do sport it is to do some exercise, to get stronger or in better
health. To my, stunt kite flying fill that bill very well.

If I want to relax, I fly, or build a kite. That way I take my mind off my
everyday preocupations.

Just go the Web site of Kites on Ice and look at the pictures of the kite
flyers. What do you think the average age is. Yes, this is a good
representation of the kite flyers community. We are all old kids. I prefer
to meet a 45 years old kid flying a kite than a 45 year old supposedly adult
person handling a gun and willing to kill for anything. I choose 45 because
this is my age.

Just my ideas.

Wind or no wind, fly for fun :-)

Jean (Johnny) Lemire of team S.T.A.F.F. from Montreal, Canada.

Jean Lemire

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Hi Dopey Dunkus, hi folks.

Beter late than never.

Dont be sorry. I played softball for 10 years and broomball for 15 years.
Then I started kite flying. I am sorry I did not discovered kites before so
I could have saved all the money I spent paying for equipment and ice time
in arenas.

Then I remember all the good friends and the good times I had while doing so
and I am not too much sorry anymore.

Then I figure out all the money I could have spent on kites much earlier in
my existence and I am not sorry at all :-)

Now, do I buy a third kite bag or do I build one myself ? :-)

Jean Lemire

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Hi Dopey Dunkus, hi folks.

-------------- Start of excerpt --------------

Yes why, why,why indeed! Just goes to show how crazy we humans are!

-------------- End of excerpt --------------

Yes, how crazy humans are: polluting, fighting, exploiting, raping,
enslavering, killing, destroying, torturing, mutilating, etc...

Why dont fly a kite instead ?

Wind or no wind, fly for fun.

Jean Lemire

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Hi folks.

Yes this is a good thread to give some ammunition to newcomers who have to
explain to their boss, wife, friends (no particuliar order of importance
here) why they invest so much time and money in kites :-)

Fly a fighter kite, not a fighter plane.

Wind or no wind, fly for fun :-)

Jean Lemire

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Hi folks.

The money spent on kites in one year on the whole planet is probably many
orders of magnitude less than the money spent on armaments in even a modest
country.

To give that money to the poors will probably fill a very limited need and
for probably a short time. Remember the old saying: Give a fish to a man
and you feed him for a day. Show him how to catch fishes and you feed him
for life.

Last weekend, I was with many good friends in a kite festival in Saint
Placide (a small town near Montreal). One of these friend is Yves Laforest
who has a impressive collection of kites including four Peter Lynn
inflatable. These kites are big and expensive. But they, and many other
flying things, made over 2000 peoples realize the vastnest of the world of
kiting. We made their day and filled their memories with incredible
souvenirs. This is worth many time the money spent on those kites. Plus,
these are used again and again in many other events.

Stokebrand

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haven't you been around the last years? Never been on a beach? Never seen
someone fly a real kite?
So what are you doing on this newgroup?
start looking around on real kites.
http://www.win.tue.nl/cs/fm/pp/kites/
he has an extensive list of kites. take a look at the pictuerse and look in
his list of plans.
make them yourself or get your pocketmoney and buy one (but making them
yourself gives even more pleasure).
For the sake of discussion:
I've heard a lot of poeple that try to change the world by telling other how
to behave, live or even work. I think it is a better strategy to show people
other values to charish, you don't give any other values and certainly not
without any judgement.
Try understanding what other peoples interests are and
what their ideas are about: it make the world better.
In lot's of societies
there has been a lot of fights about this kind of understanding, why disturb
this group?

try to be open for other ideas!!
douwe


Paul Grimmer

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I agree with you Chris. I to am 50+ bought a Delta in Oct. made a couple of
Diamonds, just got a stunt kite. I can't trick yet either. What I did find
is a way to releive stress and such. but I also found a new way to interact
with my Grandchildren. They all come to the house and we take off with a
bunch of kites and just go fly. More fun then tv and a lot more rewarding.
Paul

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>I flew kites as a kid. Then I grew up. In my mid-50's my Brother handed
>me the lines to his full size dual line and the next day I bought my
>first kite in many moons and my first stunt kite. I was hooked. I found
>that I could fly my kite after work and all the cares of the day faded
>away. Didn't need to trick it, still can't, just fly the thing and enjoy
>life. Found out I got enough earning power I can buy any kite I want.
>Find that to be infinetly better than standing on a corner lying to
>people by saying I will work for money or food when they won't. I give
>to organizations that which I want to. I keep more for me and my family.
>That's the way it is.
>
>Not enough bandwidth here to talk about all the fine people and kids I
>have met when flying my kites, in a field alone, or at a festival of
>some sorts. Great people. From Texas to Maine, over the internet, taught
>a friend how to fly a dual line from a potatoe field with 3' of packed
>snow on it.
>
>I found the kid in me again, tempered with an adult view of life. I also
>found a bunch more just like me.
>

Tom Holloway

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Tom Jones

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Yes, sad indeed! I'm educated, have been working as a Software Engineer
at IBM for 18 years, married and love my family. I contribute money to
The Red Cross and United Way. I have a wonderful life, and the biggest
thing in my life is not trying to make all the money I can possibly make.
I fly kites, actually several. My 6' parafoil in these Texas winds is quite a
workout. I'm also an amateur astronomer, I sure hope that's not a waste too
:-)

Tom Jones

Don Hansberger wrote:

> This is like the saddest thing I have ever heard of.
>
> Dopey Donkus wrote:
>

> > Very interesting ... mmmm.... the Kids to-day are better educated when
> > they grow up and, therefore, do know more than their parents ... if
> > cannot accept this fact then obviously there is generation gap
> > somewhere!
>

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Tom Jones: DCE Performance IBM Austin, TX: email: to...@austin.ibm.com

"The Fourth Dimension is just one big crazy do not enter clambake
jungle of weirdity -- and how does it work? Never mind!" - The Tick


RICKSTUNTS

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Kite flying is fun and relaxing. And you can look up to the sky and thank God
for getting you through another day and maybe talk to some kite friends who
aren't with any longer.
Rick gardner

Richard Gardner

joe

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Please see my article on the psychology of kite flying in kitelife.com
and you will be enlightened. Joe

Andy Pauline

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I couldn't agree more. Some people actually waste bags of time and money
going to church, and I bet when I am out of a Sunday in a 20mph wind, with
a Rev on the end of my lines and The Rocky Horror Tape playing in my ears i
am closer to heavan, than they will ever get.
--
There ain't no such thing as the Devil, it's just God when she's drunk

rev...@connix.com_REMOVE_THIS_WHEN_REPLYING wrote in article
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> dovek...@email.com (Dopey Donkus) writes:
> >
>
> Personally, I think collecting stamps or baseball cards is boring, but
lots of
> people find it an enjoyable hobby...who am I to cast any aspersion on
what
> they personally find gives them bliss?
>
>

> >some may spend a few dollars on a kite (which is reasonable) there are
> >others who would not hesitate to waste thousands of dollars on giant
> >kites. Don't you think this to be wasteful? It would have served a
> >better purpose if such money could be accumulated and donated to the
> >poor of our respective Countries!
>

> And how much money is spent by golfers on THEIR hobby? Wouldn't it be
better
> if they too donated the cost of their clubs and country club fees to feed
the
> poor? Joggers should stop buying expensive jogging shoes, tennis players
not
> buy expensive tennis rackets, skiers give up their expensive skis and
poles,
> NO ONE should pursue ANY hobby, because it all gets so very expensive,
it's
> 'too much money' to be spent on something frivolous, isn't it?
>
>

> >History had shown men to have indulged in kite flying, in the past but
> >in the past people are less educated and have naothing better to do.

> >It does not mean that we the modern day adult should ape what men did
> >in the past!
>

> Guess that means no one should go camping, either, as there's no longer a

> reason to go out into the woods and live in a tent...
>
> Heck, that even eliminates barbecuing...why should we 'ape' how our
ancestors
> cooked, let's all just nuke our nutrition in the microwave...
>
> Why should anyone sail on a sailboat, when we now have modern speedboats?
>
> Let's kill all the horses...no need for them, we now have fossil-fuel-
> burning vehicles to transport us...
>
>

> >Perhaps in the past those men never grew up and out of
> >their childhood I should think. Being what we have become today,
> >surely men could better plan their leisure activites and indulge in
> >something that would apart from providing some fun also keeps him fit!
>

> Like bowling, perhaps?
>
> Or fishing?
>
> Why should the goal of any leisure activity be one of 'keeping fit'?
What's
> wrong with enjoyment for the sake of enjoyment?
>
> What's wrong with doing something which provides ENTERTAINMENT for those
> passing by?
>
> What is wrong with doing something solely for the sake of the ART
involved?
>
>

> > I used to fly kites when I was a kid but not now ...I personally think
> > that as we mature we should also change our attitude towards uselss
> > thing like flying of kites and wasting thousands of dollars just to
> > organise Kite Festivals ... for whose benefit but the business people!
>

> So, we should have tennis and golf tournaments instead?
>
> You've made it clear you personally don't like flying kites...but what
makes
> you think you have the right to dictate how anyone else spends their time
(or
> their money)...?
>
> As a matter of fact, I didn't like flying kites as a kid...it's a passion
I've
> developed only as an adult...
>
> And most kids, I've noticed, find flying kites 'boring'...
>
>

> > I think it time we outgrow our childhood instead of clinging to it as
> > if there are no better pastimes around!
>

francis chapleau

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Stop looking at the tv

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