And this is why you don't juggle torches inside.
Brian Fahs
Maximum Exposure, for those not familiar with the show, it's basically a
"look how stupid people are" show.
Torch Saftey has been mentioned from time to time here. Here is a great
example of someone who made a few mistakes. May this be a lesson to all
those people looking to do their torches inside, and a reminder to the rest
of us to keep our fuel can's on the other side of the venue
Thank's to Little Paul who put these up on the web for me after I mentioned
it a week or so ago thereby isolating me from any copyright infringment
issues. :)
It's now available from:
http://www.lpbk.net/video/cluster/FireJuggling.WMV with
http://seis.bris.ac.uk/~ispms/FireJuggling.WMV as a faster (but
potentially less "long-lived") mirror
Brian Fahs
Aurora, IL
staticjuggler
ground.
I can just imagine him thinking something like "no, those are my expensive
two-piece clubs with decorations! who cares about the fire, save my clubs!"
at the end of the video he has long hair. don't get the torches too close
to his head now...
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Eric Bagai
> at the end of the video he has long hair. don't get the torches too close
> to his head now...
And the poor fool is still using a glass fuel container. I wonder if he's
still dipping hot torches into lighter fluid?
All things considered, it is amazing that there aren't more injuries and
accidents with fire toys. A lucky fool can behave stupidly for many years
without serious consequences. It seems a very large number of them do.
This one grew at least a year's worth of hair after his screw-up, and still
hadn't bothered to learn the basics of self-preservation.
Today he's probably a meat inspector.
=Eric
www.foreworks.com
on-line fire safety manual for performers
Brian Fahs
found www.taincollins.com.
Good news is he's a singer now.
In the Bio section you find:
"Tain Collins is a lifelong performer. He learned to juggle when he was
eight and by twelve was performing an act that included fire, five ball
juggling and crowd inter-play. However, Tain's first love is music. He grew
up in a musical family, hanging around the likes of Eugene McDaniels, Dirk
Hamilton and Joe Walsh. He began playing the guitar at the age of six and
has been pleasing crowds since he was sixteen."
Based on the clip we saw, the act sure included fire.
Brian
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Luke Holman
Thanks for posting, that was sweet. The commentator's view of jugglers is
well funny. That was some flammable fuel he was using, bet it wasn't
parafin like every book, website and fire juggler recommends...
Luke
Alan Mackenzie
> "staticjuggler" wrote:
>> at the end of the video he has long hair. don't get the torches too
>> close to his head now...
> And the poor fool is still using a glass fuel container. I wonder if
> he's still dipping hot torches into lighter fluid?
> All things considered, it is amazing that there aren't more injuries and
> accidents with fire toys.
How many such accidents are there? Reports of them aren't exactly
common, even on rec.juggling.
> A lucky fool can behave stupidly for many years without serious
> consequences. It seems a very large number of them do. This one grew
> at least a year's worth of hair after his screw-up, and still hadn't
> bothered to learn the basics of self-preservation.
My impression is, the fire fools are few. The only thing I've seen which
made me a bit concerned once was two jugglers passing torches a bit close
to some tents on a convention campsite. Maybe I've seen other things
about which I ought to have been concerned.
> Today he's probably a meat inspector.
> =Eric
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Little Paul
> How many such accidents are there? Reports of them aren't exactly
> common, even on rec.juggling.
Well, I've personally seen a couple, and set fire to myself
accidentally once. (I however did learn from that incident that
wearing a baggy polyester based jumper was a stupid idea)
The accidents I've seen (which didn't involve myself) all
involved street performers getting too cocky and not giving
the weather conditions propper respect (Fire breathing, in
gusty conditions, and having it blow back in your face
is not recomended) or people pissed up on renegade stages
Although it was very pretty when that chap dropped his fire
staff so that it rolled to the back of the stage and set light
to the other pre-fueled staffs he had stacked there, and
as the flames licked up the backdrop that was nice too. I think
Mikey and I ran off giggling at that point. But no-one could
see us. We were in-cog-nito.
> My impression is, the fire fools are few. The only thing I've seen
> which made me a bit concerned once was two jugglers passing torches a
> bit close to some tents on a convention campsite.
Of all the fire related accidents I've seen, the one that
caused the most damage wasn't juggling related, but did take
place at a juggling convention, it involved a juggler, fire,
extreme stupidity, and the loss of the Airotech guys brand
new tent.[1]
-Paul
[1] If you need to change the gas canister on your cooking
stove, where there is a danger that it might not fit properly,
spewing gas everywhere, next to a nylon tent... should you do it by:
a) Torchlight
b) Candlelight
Answers on a postcard to the usual.
jugglingeek
What is it about fire juggle that people find exciting? Granted I have
never seen fire
juggling at night but from what I've seen things like fire staff and
*gasp* fire poi look
much more visually apealing. As far as clubs go I would much rather watch
people
juggle big pretty fathead clubs than the scuzzy things people generaly use
for fire
juggling.
Jugglingeek
Bring on the fire rings! now theres a combination sure to result in
certain death, rings
been the most painful of all juggling props.
Mitchos
Aha ha ha
Aha
Mha
Ha
Hmmm.
Genius, cheers for cheering up the sicky (who has learnt his lesson and
will *never* sleep in a wet sleeping bag again)
And will burn the tent. That'll learn it.
The scummer.
M.
Eric Bagai
> Eric Bagai <ericATforeworks.com> wrote
> > All things considered, it is amazing that there aren't more injuries and
> > accidents with fire toys.
>
> How many such accidents are there? Reports of them aren't exactly
> common, even on rec.juggling.
>
> made me a bit concerned once was two jugglers passing torches a bit close
> to some tents on a convention campsite. Maybe I've seen other things
> about which I ought to have been concerned.
You may well be right. The last few years I've seen a lot more fire
spinners than fire jugglers. It's a different and newer culture, with less
experience and history than the juggling crowd. The traditions are not as
established and the safety procedures are not as routinized as those of
jugglers, though that's changing rapidly, probably in response to pressure
from cities and fire departments.
There is an odd use of term "renegade" that the fire-spinning crowd has come
up with, and I don't know if it's just Portland or west coast US, or part of
the general vocabulary. "Renegade," as in "let's go renegade on Thursday."
It means to gather for fire spinning (staff, poi, whips, webs, fingers,
fans, etc.) without permission, on public property, and without a fire
permit. It's a verb, not a noun.
=Eric
Brian Fahs
> Well, I've personally seen a couple, and set fire to myself
> accidentally once. (I however did learn from that incident that
> wearing a baggy polyester based jumper was a stupid idea)
>
I too have seen at least 2 incidents I can remember. One was an outdoor
performance where a juggler/fireeate managed to catch his beard on fire. The
other was indoors where a drop caught a stage on fire. Luckly both incidents
were minor.
Even thought I've been juggling torches for 15 years, so far no problems
caused by me.
Brian Fahs
Aurora, IL
staticjuggler
his torches too?
Alan Mackenzie
> On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 07:57:33 +0000, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>> How many such accidents are there? Reports of them aren't exactly
>> common, even on rec.juggling.
> Well, I've personally seen a couple, and set fire to myself
> accidentally once. (I however did learn from that incident that wearing
> a baggy polyester based jumper was a stupid idea)
> The accidents I've seen (which didn't involve myself) all involved
> street performers getting too cocky and not giving the weather
> conditions propper respect (Fire breathing, in gusty conditions, and
> having it blow back in your face is not recomended) or people pissed up
> on renegade stages
OK. I was thinking more about torches than fire breathing. And quite
honestly, I'm one of those stick in the muds that thinks that playing
with fire is best done in the open, not in a crowded tent filled with
happy inebriation well after midnight at a juggling convention.
> Although it was very pretty when that chap dropped his fire staff so
> that it rolled to the back of the stage and set light to the other
> pre-fueled staffs he had stacked there, and as the flames licked up
> the backdrop that was nice too. I think Mikey and I ran off giggling
> at that point. But no-one could see us. We were in-cog-nito.
Giggling? Hmmm.... How about "let us depart from this canvas enclosure
in the immediate future, since there are no grounds for undue hanging
around here?"
>> My impression is, the fire fools are few. The only thing I've seen
>> which made me a bit concerned once was two jugglers passing torches a
>> bit close to some tents on a convention campsite.
> Of all the fire related accidents I've seen, the one that caused the
> most damage wasn't juggling related, but did take place at a juggling
> convention, it involved a juggler, fire, extreme stupidity, and the
> loss of the Airotech guys brand new tent.[1]
Even less juggling related, I was once standing in an office next to a
young lady's desk, talking to her as she was lighting a cigarette. The
next few seconds was spent slapping her across the head to extinguish her
hair, which was fixed with hairspray.
> -Paul
> [1] If you need to change the gas canister on your cooking
> stove, where there is a danger that it might not fit properly,
> spewing gas everywhere, next to a nylon tent... should you do it by:
> a) Torchlight
> b) Candlelight
> Answers on a postcard to the usual.
I reckon the candle would be better than Henry's Niteflight, but who am I
to say?
Tyler
Tyler
Little Paul
>> The accidents I've seen (which didn't involve myself) all involved
>> street performers getting too cocky and not giving the weather
>> conditions propper respect (Fire breathing, in gusty conditions, and
>> having it blow back in your face is not recomended) or people pissed up
>> on renegade stages
>
> OK. I was thinking more about torches than fire breathing.
The renegade incidents I remember were a mixture of poi, staff and
fire eating/breathing. I don't recall ever seeing anyone juggle torches
on a BJC/EJC renegade stage.
> And quite
> honestly, I'm one of those stick in the muds that thinks that playing
> with fire is best done in the open, not in a crowded tent filled with
> happy inebriation well after midnight at a juggling convention.
I'm with you there... if only because over the years I've come to
dislike the smell of parafin ;-)
>> I think Mikey and I ran off giggling
>> at that point. But no-one could see us. We were in-cog-nito.
>
> Giggling? Hmmm.... How about "let us depart from this canvas enclosure
> in the immediate future, since there are no grounds for undue hanging
> around here?"
Well, I think there may have been some mushrooms involved. The giggling
was inevitable.
> Even less juggling related, I was once standing in an office next to a
> young lady's desk, talking to her as she was lighting a cigarette. The
> next few seconds was spent slapping her across the head to extinguish her
> hair, which was fixed with hairspray.
When I was working (briefly) as a glass colelctor in a nightclub, I
was given some health and safety training, in which the instructor
said "It's unfortunate, but in this business everyone seems to insist
on carrying portable firehazards at all times" - He was, of course,
refering to lit cigarettes.
-Paul