What's wrong with Jugglebug Clubs?
TCH
scene. While in Vegas I picked up some clubs I saw in a magic shop for $15.
I'm a beanbag juggler and was interested in the next step (clubs). I was
proud of myself for finding such a good bargain, but the next time I went to
the juggling club one of the top guys there asked to see the new clubs I had
bought...when he saw them he disdainfully said "Jugglebugs? Here, use these
instead" and handed me 3 larger clubs. I didn't ask him, but whats so wrong
with Jugglebugs? I don't stink any worse with them than with the clubs down
at the juggling club.
Greg Phillips
> with Jugglebugs?
They're short, they're heavy, they hurt like hell if you bonk yourself
on the head with them, and the handles are hard on your hands. Aside
from that, they're fine. Juggle what you like, just don't expect to pass
them with me ;^).
Jay
i was thinking the same thing.....that there is something wrong with my
jugglebug clubs...
but, i dont think i have the same ones that TCH has/was talking about...
mine are foam padded, were 35$, and are red/yellow/blue and are from
jugglebug
they seem very lite, and i think thats the problem...
i expected my 3 club to solidify much quicker then this, it seems that
whenever i throw,
i cant thorw the way i want to, because they're so lite, i have to be
careful
with them doublespinning or doing 1.5 turns....it may also be my ceiling
height that's scaring me...
does anyone have any kind of feedback on this....?
should i go ahead and spend some money on a set of Euro's ?
thanks in advance...
- J
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Greg Phillips
> mine are foam padded, were 35$, and are red/yellow/blue and are from
> jugglebug
> they seem very lite, and i think thats the problem...
Jugglebug foam clubs are about two and a half inches (6cm) shorter than
most Euro clubs, which makes them spin fast, and significantly lighter
(170g versus 200-250g) which makes them a little harder to control.
Personally, I'd recommend getting something longer and a bit heavier.
You can get a perfectly acceptable soft-handled euro-style club like the
Beard Beach for about US$15/club, or Beard, Renegade, Dube, Henrys, or
Todd Smith euros for $25-35. They're all very pleasant. If you've got
the money, you'll never regret buying quality equipment.
Oh, and if you're planning on learning to pass clubs, find out what
other jugglers in your area have and get something similar. (This is
advice that I personally ignore, but it does make sense.)
J. Bruce Fields
> Hope I don't get flamed to bad for this, I'm still a newbie to the
> juggling scene. While in Vegas I picked up some clubs I saw in a
> magic shop for $15. I'm a beanbag juggler and was interested in
> the next step (clubs). I was proud of myself for finding such a
> good bargain, but the next time I went to the juggling club one of
> the top guys there asked to see the new
> clubs I had bought...when he saw them he disdainfully said
> "Jugglebugs? Here, use these instead" and handed me 3 larger clubs.
> I didn't ask him, but whats so wrong with Jugglebugs? I don't
> stink any worse with them than with the clubs down at the juggling
> club.
Jugglebugs aren't the best you could get, but $15 is still a pretty
good deal. The only clubs I juggled for my first year or two of
club-juggling were jugglebugs, and I learned a lot of basic tricks
(e.g., back crosses), and even learned 4 and (if I remember
correctly) got a few flashes with 5. They aren't the clubs I'd have
recommended, but they work.
In another year when you've really learned to use them, you can try
out other people's clubs, decide what you like, and reward yourself
with a new set. Till then, just have fun and ignore the snide
remarks. It doesn't make sense to spend sixty to a hundred bucks on
a set of clubs when you're just starting out.
---Bruce Fields
(whose 5-club cascade still sucks despite 10 more years and much more
money spent on equipment...)
Andrew John Conway
pro...@adelphia.net says...
> [...]
> mine are foam padded, were 35$, and are red/yellow/blue and are from
> jugglebug
> they seem very lite, and i think thats the problem...
Another problem with the JB foam clubs is that the handles do not taper.
Having tried them I am convinced that a tapered handle is better. You can
judge from the feel of the handle where on the club you are holding it,
and adjust the next throw accordingly. This happens subconsiously, but I
am convinced that it is one of the factors in getting a solid pattern.
Incidentally, for this reason I think clubs are better than sticks for
numbers juggling if you want to get anything more than a flash.
--
Andrew
Martin Frost me at stanford edu
> Incidentally, for this reason I think clubs are better than sticks for
> numbers juggling if you want to get anything more than a flash.
So is a stick with a tapered handle still a stick? (;-)
Martin
CBlackwill
that category, unfortunately. I prefer Renegade over most others I have tried,
but even then I wrap the handles in cloth tape to improve my grip. Of course,
I can only juggle four clubs at a time, so I am no expert. I was able to get
six in the air for about four tosses each once, but have not been able to
repeat it. Sorry about my bad luck...I'll keep trying, though.
But, Hey! Juggle what you've got! Worry about getting the good stuff later.
Alan Mackenzie
> In article <lG5D4.81$yS5.8...@news2.news.adelphia.net>,
> pro...@adelphia.net says...
>> [...]
>> mine are foam padded, were 35$, and are red/yellow/blue and are from
>> jugglebug
>> they seem very lite, and i think thats the problem...
>> [...]
> Another problem with the JB foam clubs is that the handles do not taper.
> Having tried them I am convinced that a tapered handle is better. You can
> judge from the feel of the handle where on the club you are holding it,
> and adjust the next throw accordingly. This happens subconsiously, but I
> am convinced that it is one of the factors in getting a solid pattern.
> Incidentally, for this reason I think clubs are better than sticks for
> numbers juggling if you want to get anything more than a flash.
What about devilstick numbers juggling? (that is, large numbers of
_small_ devilsticks :-).
> Andrew
--
Alan Mackenzie (Munich, Germany)
Email: aa...@muuc.dee; to decode, wherever there is a repeated letter
(like "aa"), remove one of them (leaving, say, "a").
stephen...@spammenot.edu
>Hope I don't get flamed to bad for this, I'm still a newbie to the juggling
>scene. While in Vegas I picked up some clubs I saw in a magic shop for $15.
>I'm a beanbag juggler and was interested in the next step (clubs). I was
>proud of myself for finding such a good bargain, but the next time I went to
>the juggling club one of the top guys there asked to see the new clubs I had
>bought...when he saw them he disdainfully said "Jugglebugs? Here, use these
>instead" and handed me 3 larger clubs. I didn't ask him, but whats so wrong
>with Jugglebugs? I don't stink any worse with them than with the clubs down
>at the juggling club.
I didn't learn to juggle around other jugglers. And when I bought my
first set of clubs, I went to a small magic shop, who sold me some
basic jugglebugs. I learned with them.
Later, after I could juggle reasonably well, I went to a juggling
festival. I think that was the first time I was around decent clubs.
The jugglebugs are much cheaper. I don't blame anyone who
wants to start with jugglebugs for saving that money. But I also
feel that anyone who juggles very often will soon find that they
want better clubs. I feel that using jugglebugs, especially
while learning, increases the pain, and decreases the chances
that you'll enjoy the practice. So when I'm teaching someone,
I usually tell them to borrow clubs until they are sure they really
want to juggle - and then to get good clubs.
The Dube Airflites are sort of an intermediate step. They are better
than jugglebugs, but still aren't as good as good clubs.
---
Stephen Whitis
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TCH
(I've been busy working on 4 balls).....I haven't encountered any real pain
from juggling yet (but to be honest...I haven't juggled much with my clubs
yet...I'm currently working on 4 balls....up to 44 catches!!! Jeez...you
guys didn't tell me my arms would get tired!)....thanks for the info on
Airflite....I was planning on upgrading to them after I'd become fairly
proficient with my clubs. The "one-piece" construction sounds
indestructible.
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Nathan Hoover
---Nathan
TCH <T...@TCH.net> wrote in message
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stephen...@spammenot.edu
>Thanks Stephen.....I haven't been juggling much at all with the jugglebugs
>(I've been busy working on 4 balls).....I haven't encountered any real pain
>from juggling yet (but to be honest...I haven't juggled much with my clubs
>yet...I'm currently working on 4 balls....up to 44 catches!!! Jeez...you
>guys didn't tell me my arms would get tired!)....thanks for the info on
>Airflite....I was planning on upgrading to them after I'd become fairly
>proficient with my clubs. The "one-piece" construction sounds
>indestructible.
I'd recommend the airflite's over the jugglebugs, for someone buying
a first set who doesn't want to pay for good clubs.
But if you've already got the jugglebugs, and decide to upgrade, then
get good clubs. The airflites will receive a response fairly similar
to what the jugglebugs did. Once you've spent some time juggling the
jugglebugs, you should decide that you *are* going to juggle, or that
you're not. If not, then no need to juggle. If you are, then no need
to buy a second pair of inferior clubs - you need good ones.
Jon Mease
construction and soft handles, they are weighted very nice
considering they only cost $16 each as opposed to $30
Renegades. I think Airflights are $14 each, and that mere
two dollars a club will be well worth it, and your hands
will thank you.
I got my circus special from Serious Juggling
http://www.seriousjuggling.com
hope this helps.
Jon
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Ransom
Once I could juggle three comfortably, and do a few tricks, I upgraded to Mr
Babache clubs. they're great.
Russ
Henrys or better still the radical fish range of clubs from Beard. they look
nothing like other clubs, beautiful for solo work & make passing a dream.
jugglebugs indeed!!!