What Are Jugglers Like
kolle...@my-dejanews.com
asked me what I thought was an interesting question: do jugglers tend to have
any characteristics in common? I gave her my opinion:
1. Jugglers tend to be playful (big surprise there!)
2. Jugglers tend to be of above-average intelligence.
3. Jugglers tend to be mathematically oriented. Not all of them, of course,
but I think a disproportionate number are mathematicians, scientists,
programmers, engineers, etc.
4. Jugglers tend to be nice people. Okay, so everybody says that about their
peer groups. But I think it's true in this case. I have simply never seen a
juggler try to make another juggler feel inferior about his or her skill
level. I can't say that about practitioners of any other skill.
5. Jugglers tend to be less preoccupied with gender roles than most people.
Men and women seem less concerned with putting on a highly masculine or
feminine image, repectively. They just act like people.
Anybody have any observations on the subject?
Eric
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Joyce Howard
corollary to the above-average intelligence).
Joyce
dust...@qconline.com
Some great insights!
But you forgot to say how good looking we all are.
Dusty
Lewis Turner
I'd like to know the answer here as well! As a recruitment agent I have
also noticed that a very high proportion of the really good software
engineers have juggling as one of their main hobbies. We've often been
tempted to run an add such as "have you the balls to move!". I suspect you
suspicions are correct.
Best Regards
Lewis,
kolle...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
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Jani Kyllonen
: 3. Jugglers tend to be mathematically oriented. Not all of them, of course,
: but I think a disproportionate number are mathematicians, scientists,
: programmers, engineers, etc.
I keep hearing this here a lot but the (OK, few) people I know that
juggle are not into math except for one computer nerd. Is it just the
people I know or is there some truth to American jugglers being math
types and European jugglers being hippie slackers?
: 4. Jugglers tend to be nice people.
I just posted something like this about Ben from Serious Juggling helping
someone to another shop and the next post I wrote was about juggling
related spam... But yes, jugglers are helpful and nice (and good looking).
jani
Michael Worsley
I overheard Jani Kyllonen say:
: kolle...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
: : 3. Jugglers tend to be mathematically oriented. Not all of them, of course,
: : but I think a disproportionate number are mathematicians, scientists,
: : programmers, engineers, etc.
: I keep hearing this here a lot but the (OK, few) people I know that
: juggle are not into math except for one computer nerd. Is it just the
: people I know or is there some truth to American jugglers being math
: types and European jugglers being hippie slackers?
No: The majority of the Jugglers here at York Uni (that I know at any rate -
we've had a lot of new people turn up this term!) are CompSci/Maths/Engineers.
Lesse... we've had a couple of english students, a linguist and an
archaeologist... oh and a psychologist :) Computer Science students haven't
dominated quite as much this year as normal...
--
Michael
"If cats had an opposable thumb and could hold a screwdriver,
we'd all be doomed." JMS.
JAG
in article <7c3375$20c$4...@verkko.uwasa.fi> dated 9 Mar 1999 12:12:21
GMT
>kolle...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
>: 3. Jugglers tend to be mathematically oriented. Not all of them, of course,
>: but I think a disproportionate number are mathematicians, scientists,
>: programmers, engineers, etc.
>
>I keep hearing this here a lot but the (OK, few) people I know that
>juggle are not into math except for one computer nerd. Is it just the
>people I know or is there some truth to American jugglers being math
>types and European jugglers being hippie slackers?
Some truth, yes. There is some truth to most stereotypes. I have
made the same observation concerning Americans vs. Europeans, but
there are always exceptions. I think a better generalization is that
most jugglers everywhere tend to fall into two major groups - hippies
and nerds. The real serious jugglers either fall into both
categories, or neither (athletes). ;)
btw- The Whole Earth Festival is coming up on Mother's Day at UC
Davis. - A hippie festival at a university - the ultimate hippie-nerd
(read: juggler) paradise. :)
...JAG
Nicky Wallace
JAG wrote in message <36e7698f...@news.concentric.net>...
>Jani Kyllonen <jam...@juggler.net> typed the stuff preceded by a ">"
>in article <7c3375$20c$4...@verkko.uwasa.fi> dated 9 Mar 1999 12:12:21
>GMT
>
>I think a better generalization is that
>most jugglers everywhere tend to fall into two major groups - hippies
>and nerds. The real serious jugglers either fall into both
>categories, or neither (athletes). ;)
What exactly do you mean by that whoever wrote it? Do you mean if you're a
serious juggler you're likely to be a smart hippie or a plain athlete? Would
you use the word nerd for someone intelligent or is it the stereo typical
person who likes all things computers and doesn't go out much? A lot of
jugglers I have seen in Europe are hippies but I have met some who are just
smart normal people. Most or in fact all of the jugglers I've seen in Europe
who perform a lot are totally hippies. Not that being a hippie means you're
dumb in my opinion. I don't know about american jugglers. Am I still typing?
I have to go now.
By the way, something I've always been wondering is when can someone
consider themselves to be a good serious juggler?
Why am I asking so many q's??
Nick
No pointless quotes or after-thoughts.........though the picture of the guy
doing 2 diabolo's was pretty cool whoever did it
nic...@yahoo.com
Barton Chittenden
> 3. Jugglers tend to be mathematically oriented. Not all of them, of course,
> but I think a disproportionate number are mathematicians, scientists,
> programmers, engineers, etc.
Being a bit of a math person and a bit of a juggler, I find they have one
thing in common: other people think that both math and juggling are
difficult. I hear non participants saying "I could never do that" of both
math and juggling.
But then... I look at english spelling, and think to myself "There's no
way I'll ever get it all right..." ;-).
--Barton
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ejb...@user2.teleport.com
>On Mon, 8 Mar 1999 kolle...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
>Being a bit of a math person and a bit of a juggler, I find they have one
>thing in common: other people think that both math and juggling are
>difficult. I hear non participants saying "I could never do that" of both
>math and juggling.
Ah! There, you've got it! Jugglers and math people both have learned
that persistence makes failure irrelevent. They learn that even if you
don't succeed at a particular feat, the attempt itself can be meaningful
and life-enhancing.
Most people learn this lesson at various kinds of things, but they often
don't generalize it to the rest of their lives. I know many golfers who
are convinced they could never learn to juggle, and if ever there was an
exercise in seeing degrees of failure as success, it's golf. And the
schools regularly teach 5-10% of their students that the most significant
thing in their lives is their talent at failure.
Jugglers seem either predisposed to self-confidence or learn it from
juggling. And all the other jugglers are _happy_ for them! (Have you ever
heard a juggler congratulate another juggler in the syrupy, artificial,
and condescending tones that we automatically associate with preschool and
elementary school teachers? All you teachers, ask yourself why this is.)
And because it is also a largely non-competitive, indeed a cooperative
activity, jugglers spend less energy on ego defending or boosting than
almost any comparable hobbiests.
Compare your experiences at your local juggling club to those at:
a computer-user meeting
an IBM or SAM (magic) meeting
a golf gathering of any kind
a gathering of competitive athletes or spectators
your high school reunion
See what I mean?
=Eric
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and modest.
Wayne
Lars Burgstahler
> : 3. Jugglers tend to be mathematically oriented. Not all of them, of
> : course, but I think a disproportionate number are mathematicians,
> : scientists, programmers, engineers, etc.
>
> I keep hearing this here a lot but the (OK, few) people I know that
> juggle are not into math except for one computer nerd. Is it just the
> people I know or is there some truth to American jugglers being math
> types and European jugglers being hippie slackers?
No, I don't think that all European jugglers are hippie slackers. I've
been at a small convention in Augsburg, Germany, this weekend, and we
came into this discussion. There was only one (mild) hippie at the
convention, but there were mathematicians, engineers, computer
scientist. Of course there was also this bunch of people from the social
area but they are far from being hippie.
Also when thinking about the british jugglers, you might call them
sometimes hippies, but as far as I know, there are many in the computer
business somehow (I just remember Tarim, Rob Stone, ... is that right?).
All of my french juggling friends are engineers (maybe because I met
them in the university's juggling club) and they are no hippies.
So I don't believe in this difference between the US and Europe.
lars
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ejb...@user2.teleport.com wrote:
>Ah! There, you've got it! Jugglers and math people both have learned
>that persistence makes failure irrelevent. They learn that even if you
>don't succeed at a particular feat, the attempt itself can be meaningful
>and life-enhancing.
I must be different. When I can't do a particular juggling trick, I
give up and do something else. Maybe this is why I can't even
flourish a club, after four years or so of juggling. Mind you, I
really stopped learning new juggling tricks, when I "discovered" the
diablo (and I stopped learning new diablo tricks when I "discovered"
the tightwire).
BTW I am a computer bod.
Trog Woolley
(A Croweater languishing in Pommie Land)
LP
> I overheard Jani Kyllonen say:
>
>
>: : 3. Jugglers tend to be mathematically oriented. Not all of them, of course,
>: : but I think a disproportionate number are mathematicians, scientists,
>: : programmers, engineers, etc.
>
>: I keep hearing this here a lot but the (OK, few) people I know that
>: juggle are not into math except for one computer nerd. Is it just the
>: people I know or is there some truth to American jugglers being math
>: types and European jugglers being hippie slackers?
>
> we've had a lot of new people turn up this term!) are CompSci/Maths/Engineers.
> Lesse... we've had a couple of english students, a linguist and an
> archaeologist... oh and a psychologist :) Computer Science students haven't
> dominated quite as much this year as normal...
The times, they are a changing! Usually we get swamped by computer
scientists and electrical engineers (of various types) but this
year we at the Aston University Juggling Society seem to have an increase in
non-computer related members (but then, we also had a big increase in
members!...)
Although, how many of our members also fall into the "hippie slackers"
category, i'm not sure... "Lazy arses" would seem far more appropriate
for most of us! (Most of us seem to have failed a year at uni at
some point...)
(Oh, and sorry for the massive quoted message above, I couldn't decide what
to snip out!)
--
-The Little Paul with the Big Kitbag, the pink hair, and
plans to cut it this week...
lp @ freenet . co . uk
Jani Kyllonen
: Being a bit of a math person and a bit of a juggler, I find they have one
: thing in common: other people think that both math and juggling are
: difficult. I hear non participants saying "I could never do that" of both
: math and juggling.
Does this mean I might be a closet mathematician?
jani, who is not exactly sure whether mathematician is a word
JAG
preceded by a ">" in article <7c4a99$s5t$1...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk> dated
Tue, 9 Mar 1999 23:26:24 -0000
>JAG wrote in message <36e7698f...@news.concentric.net>...
>>I think a better generalization is that
>>most jugglers everywhere tend to fall into two major groups - hippies
>>and nerds. The real serious jugglers either fall into both
>>categories, or neither (athletes). ;)
>
>What exactly do you mean by that whoever wrote it? Do you mean if you're a
>serious juggler you're likely to be a smart hippie or a plain athlete?
That's pretty much what I wrote. Don't take it too seriously, though.
(that's what the ";)" is for)
>Would
>you use the word nerd for someone intelligent or is it the stereo typical
>person who likes all things computers and doesn't go out much?
Nerds are interested in computers, math, science, and usually lacking
in social skills. But then again, we're speaking in generalities
here, so please try not to take offense. I'm of the opinion that
nerds are not necessarily intelligent, although many are. Another
term often used is "geek", which any geek will tell you is completely
different than a nerd, but I think it's splitting hairs. <uh-oh, now
I'm in for it ;)>
>A lot of
>jugglers I have seen in Europe are hippies but I have met some who are just
>smart normal people.
Yes, as I said, (although you snipped it) there are always exceptions.
>Most or in fact all of the jugglers I've seen in Europe
>who perform a lot are totally hippies.
Thus, the stereotype.
>Not that being a hippie means you're
>dumb in my opinion. I don't know about american jugglers.
What don't you know? If American jugglers are hippies or dumb? ;)
(best not to answer that, you're in deep enough already)
>By the way, something I've always been wondering is when can someone
>consider themselves to be a good serious juggler?
When other jugglers look at you and say you have too much free time,
and you don't know what they're talking about.
>Why am I asking so many q's??
Good question.
>Nick
>No pointless quotes or after-thoughts.........though the picture of the guy
>doing 2 diabolo's was pretty cool whoever did it
That would be me, thanks.
...JAG .
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Peter Blanchard
> Nerds are interested in computers, math, science, and usually lacking
> in social skills.
Hey JAG,
I have to say that statement is priceless. JAG stands for "Jugglers
Against Graciousness", right? Ok, ok, settle down it's a joke.
Peter Blanchard (A math professor with strong interest in computer science,
not that I take it personally or anything, because I'm a geek, not a nerd.)
Scott Seltzer
<36E84D19...@TAKETHISOUT.cc.denison.edu>...
I think JAG's fairly accurate in his definition of nerd. Problem is, it
seems like you read the sentence jumbled up. He didn't say that people who
are interested in computers, math, and science lack social skills and are
nerds (although your confusion may be true ;-)). So, you need not take it
personally.
-Scott
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Peter Blanchard
> Peter Blanchard wrote in message
> <36E84D19...@TAKETHISOUT.cc.denison.edu>...
> >JAG wrote:
> >
> >> Nerds are interested in computers, math, science, and usually lacking
> >> in social skills.
> >
> >Hey JAG,
> > I have to say that statement is priceless. JAG stands for "Jugglers
> >Against Graciousness", right? Ok, ok, settle down it's a joke.
> >
> >Peter Blanchard (A math professor with strong interest in computer science,
> >not that I take it personally or anything, because I'm a geek, not a nerd.)
>
> I think JAG's fairly accurate in his definition of nerd. Problem is, it
> seems like you read the sentence jumbled up. He didn't say that people who
> are interested in computers, math, and science lack social skills and are
> nerds (although your confusion may be true ;-)). So, you need not take it
> personally.
I'm not reading it as math+comp.sci implies nerd. I just wonder if perhaps
some people might consider it a social skill _not_ to go around making
pronouncements about who is lacking social skills?....YMMV
Peter
JAG
preceded by a ">" in article
21:52:59 -0500
>Scott Seltzer wrote:
>
>> Peter Blanchard wrote in message
>> <36E84D19...@TAKETHISOUT.cc.denison.edu>...
>> >JAG wrote:
>> >
>> >> Nerds are interested in computers, math, science, and usually lacking
>> >> in social skills.
>> >
>> >Hey JAG,
>> > I have to say that statement is priceless. JAG stands for "Jugglers
>> >Against Graciousness", right? Ok, ok, settle down it's a joke.
>> >
>> >Peter Blanchard (A math professor with strong interest in computer science,
>> >not that I take it personally or anything, because I'm a geek, not a nerd.)
I'm glad you saw the humor in it. I was afraid people might miss it.
>> I think JAG's fairly accurate in his definition of nerd. Problem is, it
>> seems like you read the sentence jumbled up. He didn't say that people who
>> are interested in computers, math, and science lack social skills and are
>> nerds (although your confusion may be true ;-)). So, you need not take it
>> personally.
>
>I'm not reading it as math+comp.sci implies nerd. I just wonder if perhaps
>some people might consider it a social skill _not_ to go around making
>pronouncements about who is lacking social skills?....YMMV
I made no such pronouncement. I was simply providing a definition for
a stereotype. (stereotypes not being people, but generalizations)
When you snip things so heavily, it's easy to take them out of
context. If you felt that my definition applied to yourself, I can't
see that as a fault of mine. Obviously, the skills of observation and
social graces (and juggling) are not interconnected.
...JAG
(whom no one has ever called "gracious")
JAG
article <7c9pn9$4o4$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com> dated Fri, 12 Mar 1999
01:13:21 GMT
>I am a juggler and and not at all mathmatically oriented, in fact most of the
>jugglers I knew weren't. I have found a few things that have been true about
>most of the jugglers I know.
>
>1. Most jugglers are very nice. Very friendly and helpfull, and allways
>willing to teach someone that is willing to learn.
>
>2. Most jugglers are willing to share information with you. Unlike, say,
>magicians, who protect everything that they know like a trade secret,
>jugglers are allways willing to teach you their tricks. They'll share with
>you what they know.
>
>3. Many jugglers are very non-conformist, free spirits. Many of the jugglers
>I know seem to enjoy just juggling, rather then focusing on one trick or
>trying to create some fascinating new trick, they just juggle.
>
>4. They don't take life to seriously.
Sounds like a definition of "hippie-slacker" if ever there was one.
;) <BIG grin>+<wink>*2
...JAG
.sig hopes that hippie-slackers don't take r.j. too seriously.
juggle...@my-dejanews.com
Barton Chittenden <ti...@iglou.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Mar 1999 kolle...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> > 3. Jugglers tend to be mathematically oriented. Not all of them, of course,
> > but I think a disproportionate number are mathematicians, scientists,
> > programmers, engineers, etc.
>
jugglers I knew weren't. I have found a few things that have been true about
most of the jugglers I know.
1. Most jugglers are very nice. Very friendly and helpfull, and allways
willing to teach someone that is willing to learn.
2. Most jugglers are willing to share information with you. Unlike, say,
magicians, who protect everything that they know like a trade secret,
jugglers are allways willing to teach you their tricks. They'll share with
you what they know.
3. Many jugglers are very non-conformist, free spirits. Many of the jugglers
I know seem to enjoy just juggling, rather then focusing on one trick or
trying to create some fascinating new trick, they just juggle.
4. They don't take life to seriously.
There is what I think of when I think of a juggler :)
Brian D Milner
===========================================
THE AVERAGE JUGGLER
With a carefree air and a casual smile, a fluid, flowing, cat-like grace, and
an easy manner, the Average Juggler plies his trade. He is a poet, a
statesman, a dancer, and a con artist. He is above average at darts. His
lightning reflexes and dazzling speed make him a natural computer
programmer. Many times he is mistaken for that guy on TV.
The Average Juggler wears many hats, in a day when hats are completely
out of style (except in baseball and yacht racing). He is an avid bicycle
mechanic. His three ball moves have the polished look of old walnut
furniture. The Average Juggler knows all the words. He recovers gracefully
from drops by using classic diversion. Squid. He has read "Juggling for the
Complete Klutz" and liked the pictures.
The Average Juggler has traveled the world and still tells knock-knock
jokes. He understands siteswap, but prefers linguini. He likes Coke over
Pepsi, chicken over beef, modified ordinal over Kappel, and sour cream on
potatoes. He said No with Nancy for eight years but now he's saying How Much
For The Whole Frotting Bag? He can kick up hot dogs into his five-bun
pattern.
The Average Juggler made a name for himself on the street, but kept confusing
it with the name his parents gave him and eventually dropped it. He was once
accused of shooting the deputy, but was later acquited. Codependent no more,
he spends his summers roaming the midwest United States with a band of
dysfunctional pirates, looking for water. His seductive and somnambular
interpretation of "Civil Disobedience" in mime won critical acclaim among pet
store owners everywhere.
He can balance pencil lead on his shoulder. His performances are set to his
own original musical scores. This lends depth and complexity to the tricks
he's learned from Ernest's book. The Average Juggler cooks for himself. He
has learned to appreciate the subtlties of professional wrestling. His clubs
are Renegades.
The Average Juggler manipulates balls, clubs, beanbags, devil sticks,
diabolos, shaker cups, produce, hats, cigar boxes, cigars, playing cards,
coins, unicycles, slinkys, flowerpots, bullwhips, lassos, MOTOS, and eats
fire. He is part man, part myth, part legend, wanted in eight states,
and is 99% cholesterol free. He may be a she.
And if he expects to make any money at it, he'd better be funny.
Peace,
-McD
(.sig wondering if we can define Average Juggler before we're done defining
Juggler... oh no, not again...)
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Nicole
>>
>I am a juggler and and not at all mathmatically oriented, in fact most of the
>jugglers I knew weren't. I have found a few things that have been true about
>most of the jugglers I know.
>1. Most jugglers are very nice. Very friendly and helpfull, and allways
>willing to teach someone that is willing to learn.
>2. Most jugglers are willing to share information with you. Unlike, say,
>magicians, who protect everything that they know like a trade secret,
>jugglers are allways willing to teach you their tricks. They'll share with
>you what they know.
>3. Many jugglers are very non-conformist, free spirits. Many of the jugglers
>I know seem to enjoy just juggling, rather then focusing on one trick or
>trying to create some fascinating new trick, they just juggle.
>4. They don't take life to seriously.
at last, someone with some sense! to me, jugglers are just a
friendly group of people who congregate at conventions and clubs
because they have one thing in common. anything else is just
generalising and doesn't matter anyway.
(an example of our variety... last week at the durham club we were
talking about various scientific theories, the week before we were
discussing belly buttons and picked eggs. that's jugglers for you..)
mini
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Michael Fouché
> Barton Chittenden <ti...@iglou.com> wrote:
> >On Mon, 8 Mar 1999 kolle...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> >
> >Being a bit of a math person and a bit of a juggler, I find they have one
> >thing in common: other people think that both math and juggling are
> >difficult. I hear non participants saying "I could never do that" of both
> >math and juggling.
>
> Ah! There, you've got it! Jugglers and math people both have learned
> that persistence makes failure irrelevent. They learn that even if you
> don't succeed at a particular feat, the attempt itself can be meaningful
> and life-enhancing.
That's perhaps the most beautiful thing I've ever read on r.j
>
> Compare your experiences at your local juggling club to those at:
>
> an IBM or SAM (magic) meeting
Actually, the really good magicians are extremely willing to share
their knowledge. They realise that only through discussing their
art and listening to others, can they improve. They also seem to
remember what it was like when they first started. It's only the
crap magicians who bag each other out all the time.
That's my two bits on the topic anyway.
Michael Fouché.
Lawrie Ransom
Chris
dia...@planet.net
wrote:
>kolle...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
>I keep hearing this here a lot but the (OK, few) people I know that
>juggle are not into math except for one computer nerd. Is it just the
>people I know or is there some truth to American jugglers being math
>types and European jugglers being hippie slackers?
Hell, here in the US we've got *plenty* of "math type hippie slackers".
Steve S.
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Nicole <nic...@enterprise.net> wrote in article
<36e93f17...@news.enterprise.net>...
> last week at the durham club we were talking about various scientific
theories,
> the week before we were discussing belly buttons and picked eggs. that's
jugglers
> for you..)
[SNIP.....]
So that's where GM-food research is coming from! That's amazing, crossing
a chicken with a plant! Keep it up guys!
P.S How did belly buttons enter into the research??
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Bill Cook
>>I'm not reading it as math+comp.sci implies nerd. I just wonder if perhaps
>>some people might consider it a social skill _not_ to go around making
>>pronouncements about who is lacking social skills?....YMMV
>
>I made no such pronouncement. I was simply providing a definition for
>a stereotype. (stereotypes not being people, but generalizations)
>When you snip things so heavily, it's easy to take them out of
>context. If you felt that my definition applied to yourself, I can't
>see that as a fault of mine. Obviously, the skills of observation and
>social graces (and juggling) are not interconnected.
>...JAG
>(whom no one has ever called "gracious")
We should all bear in mind that the definition of 'nerd' from the Bill
Cook dictionary of Absolute Bollocks is 'someone who is interested in
something that the guy with the bigger mouth isn't interested in'
BC
Kenneth Pak Yin Chu
>
I do know one juggler who was like that... but he was the only one.
K
Kenneth Pak Yin Chu
>
> Anybody have any observations on the subject?
>
> Eric
>
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Jugglers like to have a computer so that they can all join together and
discover what they're really like, the usual conclusion is that jugglers
are friendly but some would normally disagree flame each other in the
process.
Juggling is the jugglers' hobby, which explains why aspects of juggling
is irrelevent in comparison to, say, is Juggling a sport (BTW it is :)).
K
Micgoose
was I hearing things?
stephen...@spammenot.edu
>A mime told me that jugglers were " hippies with jobs". Sounded good to me, or
>was I hearing things?
You must have been hearing things - mimes don't talk.
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