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Looking for 11" Rubber (Nizer) Softballs

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Jason Kollum

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Aug 13, 2007, 3:38:50 PM8/13/07
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I've been looking online for rubber softballs, preferable 11". I was
talking to Nizer few months ago, I guess he uses softballs he covers
with balloons, so he can do headbounces, headrolls, bodyrolls, etc.

I can't seem to find any 11" online. I've been looking for Rubber
Softballs or Sponge Rubber, but the Customer Service reps I've been
talking to on the phone keep saying that the rubber is hard. I've
been asking if, for example, you could bounce it off your head, and
would it hurt.

In sporting goods stores, they have large 16" sizes and 12" sizes, but
they are all hard cover.

You think this might work:
http://tinyurl.com/2b5svp

Jason

Fabio Pinna

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Aug 13, 2007, 7:41:35 PM8/13/07
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Jason Kollum wrote:

> In sporting goods stores, they have large 16" sizes and 12" sizes, but
> they are all hard cover.
>
> You think this might work:
> http://tinyurl.com/2b5svp
>
> Jason

Asking for "softballs" at the phone is quite a good way to get you
misunderstood, and talking about Softball (the sport) balls (like the one
at the url you provided, or so it seems).
Those balls have got a wooden core and are wrapped in boiled leather, so
YES, they tend to hurt a lot. Basketballs hurts way less, despite being
much heavier.

I would advise you to get some rhythmic gymnastics balls, but the largest
they get is 9 inches and something (24cm I believe). They are VERY cheap,
tho. (4 euros for a 18cm/7in ball). Somebody tells me that big squash
balls are good, too, but this is second-hand information [1].

I think that Anthony Gatto used to recommend balls from
www.ballsonline.com, but this is just a faded memory of mine. Also, I
don't remember what kind of ball he used to recommend.

Hope this helps in some way,

Fabio.

[1] And so he discovered that squash balls are made out of marble...

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Fabio Pinna

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Aug 13, 2007, 7:53:06 PM8/13/07
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Fabio Pinna wrote:
> Somebody tells me that big squash
> balls are good, too, but this is second-hand information [1].

Somebody just told me that squash balls are big 65mm at most (2'' and
half), made out of rubber with a solid core, and tend to hurt a lot.

I was actually thinking of handballs or dodgeballs while writing that, but
both rarely come in sizes bigger than 8 or 9 inches.

Fabio.

yermej

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Aug 13, 2007, 9:25:44 PM8/13/07
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I agree with Fabio -- softballs are not particularly soft. Rhythmic
gymnastics balls might work and you might look for "playground balls"
such as these: http://www.school-tech.com/balls3.html

They are hollow, inflated, rubber balls that bounce relatively well
and wouldn't hurt if you were to do head bounces with them. They're
often used in schools for dodgeball, kickball, four square, and other
exciting gym class/recess games.

Fabio also mentioned http://ballsonline.com and they have a lot of
playground balls there. I don't think I've seen 11", but 10", 13", and
larger are available. http://www.ballsonline.com/c-31-rubber-balls.aspx

Little Paul

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Aug 14, 2007, 4:15:25 AM8/14/07
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On 2007-08-13, Fabio Pinna <got...@gmail.com.nospam.com> wrote:
> Somebody tells me that big squash
> balls are good, too, but this is second-hand information [1].

I'm assuming you mean something other than "balls used for playing
squash" as that's what I understood by the term "squash ball" and
those balls are about 25mm in diameter at most.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squash_%28sport%29

Not the most visual of props, and probably a right pig for head
bouncing - but they apparently work quite well as the top ball
of a 2 ball stack if you're using a 4" stage ball as the bottom
ball. (ballspinnning)

-Paul

Chiok

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Aug 14, 2007, 10:23:44 AM8/14/07
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yermej wrote:
>
> On Aug 13, 2:38 pm, Jason Kollum <jdkol...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I've been looking online for rubber softballs, preferable 11". I was
> > talking to Nizer few months ago, I guess he uses softballs he covers
> > with balloons, so he can do headbounces, headrolls, bodyrolls, etc.
> >
>
> I agree with Fabio -- softballs are not particularly soft. Rhythmic
> gymnastics balls might work and you might look for "playground balls"
> such as these: http://www.school-tech.com/balls3.html

Since Jason has spoken with Mark Nizer directly and he said he used
"softballs" I assume it to be some sort of oversized novelty ball?
Because I've never seen an 11" softball anywhere (4" at most). 11" would
be just under basketball size so that's a fair size ball. Any idea what
these 11" softballs are used for so perhaps alternatives may be suggested,
or perhaps it's known as something else.

Then again, that's a pretty big balloon to cover something that big as
well.

Chiok
www.gravityvomit.co.uk

Fabio Pinna

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Aug 14, 2007, 10:40:19 AM8/14/07
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Chiok wrote:

> Since Jason has spoken with Mark Nizer directly and he said he used
> "softballs" I assume it to be some sort of oversized novelty ball?

I think these are just large, soft, spherical objects which happen to be
called "balls". Or maybe it's a brand name? Either way, I totally don't
think we are calling about balls used for playing softball.

Fabio.

Jason Kollum

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Aug 14, 2007, 1:36:34 PM8/14/07
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On Aug 14, 9:23 am, chioklirem...@hotmail.com.nospam.com (Chiok)
wrote:

> Since Jason has spoken with Mark Nizer directly and he said he used
> "softballs" I assume it to be some sort of oversized novelty ball?
> Because I've never seen an 11" softball anywhere (4" at most). 11" would
> be just under basketball size so that's a fair size ball. Any idea what
> these 11" softballs are used for so perhaps alternatives may be suggested,
> or perhaps it's known as something else.
>
> Then again, that's a pretty big balloon to cover something that big as
> well.
>
> Chiokwww.gravityvomit.co.uk

Some of these sport juggling ball manufacturers are using measurements
that makes you think about exactly what they might be talking about.
I emailed David Cain yesterday and found a new ball online that might
be great for spinning, he replied that it was much too small, maybe
for the middle ball of a stack. Some companies though give
measurements for diameter, other circumfrence, they don't tell you
which. The ball I was referring to was the same size ball David had,
we were thinking different measurements.

I'm actually planning on using softballs for 3 ball juggling. 11" for
softballs refers to circumfrence actually. The ones Mark uses--he
just emailed me back--he said he got 20 years ago and guards them with
his life, and rightfully so! Just covers them with balloons then.

Here's what I ordered yesterday:
http://www.flaghouse.com/itemdy00.asp?T1=611

Here's a link to a Franklin Rubber Baseball, which btw, would make
great juggling balls, much better and heavier than Pinkie's. Link is
below. I'm basically looking for the equivalent of this but in an 11"
softball. Soft rubber outer with a Sponge Rubber Center. When I
emailed the rep about balls that "would be bouncy and not hurt if
bounced off the head" she sent me a link back to basically like
stuffed balls softball size, like those balls you would find when you
walk in a restaurant....you know that machine where you put in a
quarter and that little grabby metal hand tries to grab a prize you
don't need?
http://shopping.msn.com/specs/shp/?itemId=571284159

I think a good ball for juggling is one that provides the most
versatility, stage balls 'can' be good, but not too well with head
bouncing. The ones I felt of Mark's had a great size, highly visible,
great for head bounces, headrolls, body rolls, etc.


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