Evgeni Biljauer at IJA
Scott Seltzer
convention. What were his workshops like? What footage did they show of
him? Did they show footage of his 5 club forward roll?
-Scott
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Peter Blanchard
it. I asked Mr. Biljauer after his talk to clarify one thing, but
clarification didn't happen. During the talk he claimed to have done
(I don't recall whether or not in performance) a front flip (in the
air) under two clubs in a four club juggle.
When I spoke with him he clearly indicated a 'russian lift' to the
front flip, which wouldn't make any sense for a forward roll, but then
again he may have just been acknowledging that he knew what a russian
lift is... So... did anyone who saw the video see Mr. B. toss two of
for clubs up and flip forwards to catch them again?
Peter Blanchard
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gonzo
I seem to remember him doing a 3 up out of 5 clubs with a front roll, but
no flips. However, an old circus juggler that I am friends with, named
Marko, saw Evgeni do a 3 up back flip.
Flipping and rolling aside, the clips of Evgeni were incredible. They
showed two routines, as well as a practice session in Japan. In the
practice clips Evgeni was able to juggle six clubs, place one onto his
chin, and then go back into juggling six. He did this multiple times
without stopping his juggle. In addition, he was stunning with five clubs,
and a seven club flash, where the seventh club began on his chin. He
easily juggled six clubs while heading a ball.
It would take much too long to explain the rest of Evgeni's manuevers, but
if you ever get the chance to see him in action, do not hesitate.
Gonzo
Scott Seltzer
> I listened to the talk and saw a bit of the video, but missed most of
> it. I asked Mr. Biljauer after his talk to clarify one thing, but
> clarification didn't happen. During the talk he claimed to have done
> (I don't recall whether or not in performance) a front flip (in the
> air) under two clubs in a four club juggle.
> When I spoke with him he clearly indicated a 'russian lift' to the
> front flip, which wouldn't make any sense for a forward roll, but then
> again he may have just been acknowledging that he knew what a russian
> lift is... So... did anyone who saw the video see Mr. B. toss two of
> for clubs up and flip forwards to catch them again?
I have a couple clips of Biljauer on video and in one of them he does a 4
club 2-high front roll. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if he could do a
flip.
Warren
opinions about the workshop, but I felt it was the single best thing I've
done for my juggling. I've known now for quite a while that I've been
doing some things fundamentally wrong with my juggling. Some things that
have been holding back progress for me significantly. He's the first
person who's been able to pick out what it is, and most importantly, given
me exercises and methods to correct what I'm doing wrong. Anything else
you want to know just ask.
Warren (yeah)
Daniel Ehlers
Evgeni suggest for exercises to correct the problem?
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Netwel
IMHO there's no right&wrong in juggling. One of he nicest things about
juggling is that every juggler follows its own way, decides by himself
what & how he wants to learn. Being sincere you couldn't call any
juggling 'wrong'. You clould say about someone's juggling nomore then
'less atractive to watch', 'more injury prone', 'slowing down improvement'
etc.
So, I'm curious. What were the things you did 'wrong'? What did you
change? And what kind of excercises did Evgeni give to you?
Goodday Netwel
Jason Kollum
> Hi
> IMHO there's no right&wrong in juggling. One of he nicest things about
> juggling is that every juggler follows its own way, decides by himself
> what & how he wants to learn. Being sincere you couldn't call any
> juggling 'wrong'. You clould say about someone's juggling nomore then
> 'less atractive to watch', 'more injury prone', 'slowing down improvement'
> etc.
>
> So, I'm curious. What were the things you did 'wrong'? What did you
> change? And what kind of excercises did Evgeni give to you?
> Goodday Netwel
I attended the Bilyauer workshop as well, but I only attended half of
the 4 days. Through I did learn a few techniques to help me improve,
I didn't enjoy it to the point where I felt I wanted to stay for its
entirety. I had hoped to gain two things out of the workshop:
1)learn how to improve my juggling techniques in any area, by either
determing what I was doing wrong, or how to make something I currently
do well even better, and 2) learn elements of Bilyauer's career in
juggling which wasn't described in the magazine or the Historical
Achievement Award presentation. The language barrier was quite
difficult, as I had really wanted to ask him what types of clubs he
used, what types of balls he used for head bouncing, his motivation
behind his style of pirouettes, his work with other jugglers like
Ignatov or Kiss, etc.
He did help me improve on my pirouettes, and did show me what I was
doing wrong with my 3 high pirouettes with rings out of one hand. It
was quite an honor to meet Bilyauer who has accomplished so much
during his juggling career.
~Jason
Alan Morgan
Netwel <net...@hetnetniet.nl.nospam> wrote:
>Hi
>IMHO there's no right&wrong in juggling.
That's overstating it. The cascade is a symmetric pattern so if you are
symmetric (one hand higher than the other, pattern not centered on your
body, etc) then I think you can legitimately call it "wrong". If I
see someone juggling the cascade in a syncopated pattern and they want
help then I explain that they are doing it wrong and how they can fix it.
Alan
--
Defendit numerus
Warren
I see your point. However, there is a right and wrong way to juggle if you
want to advance as far as you can. Your point is made from a stylistic
point of view, while mine is from a technical. It is impossible to advance
beyond a certain point if you are not doing things correctly. It's very
cool to see how different peoples styles show through in their juggling
and how they express themselves through it. Some of the best at that that
I've seen are Jay Gilligan and Pat McGuire (ESPECIALLY the routine he
performed in the 2000 IJA championships. that one rocks).
Here are the most valuable bits of advice he gave me.
1. When juggling an even # of objects wrists must angled slightly outwards
(at least in the case of clubs)and elbows must be in. The exercise he gave
me to correct this involves juggling with just one hand, and slowly move
that arm from straight out in front of you to the side w/o moving your
chest. You can't do this in a controlled manner unless you have correct
technique. So far its worked great for me.
2. Don't point clubs straight backwards when doing alberts, they should be
angled slightly.
3. When juggling higher numbers of clubs its key to use a larger range of
motion with your arms (similar to following through with a swing in
baseball, or something like that...blah.) same thing is true with balls
and rings too actually, I don't know, I noticed it most with clubs.
4. He didn't say this, but I kind of inferred it from what all I learned.
Aim with your arms, not your wrists.
5. Don't make retarded looking faces while juggling like I do. He
definitely made fun of me a lot for that.
Well, now I'm going to be stupid and bitter QUICK EVERYONE DISAGREE WITH
ME AND BE REALLY MEAN ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THATS THE THING TO DO
ON REC.JUGGLING AND NOT ENCOURAGE CONSTRUCTIVE CONVERSATION.
by the way, thats totally not aimed at you netwel, hehe. sorry if it seems
like it was. I honestly don't know where that came from, just pent up
frustration I guess from a few people on here. anyways, juggling rocks,
and stuff and play nice kids!
Warren
Little Paul
> Here are the most valuable bits of advice he gave me.
<snip>
There's some very good advice in there. Did he mention anything about
relaxing? I know far too many jugglers who seem to tense up their
shoulders and neck and hence try to juggle from the elbow.
It might work, but it aint pretty. Relax people, have fun with it.
> Well, now I'm going to be stupid and bitter QUICK EVERYONE DISAGREE WITH
> ME AND BE REALLY MEAN ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THATS THE THING TO DO
> ON REC.JUGGLING AND NOT ENCOURAGE CONSTRUCTIVE CONVERSATION.
YOU'RE WRONG DAMNIT! My view is right, there is only one way to juggle
and it's mine *muhahahahaha* , you're just a retarded numbers juggling
freak.[1] Go learn some poi[2] you know you want to[3]
There... do you feel better now? :-)
-Paul
www.lpbk.net - Now, where did I put my shovel?
[1] - OK, so I don't actually *know* that.
[2] - Well, you did say to be really mean
[3] - OK, so you probably don't. If you've got any sense at all. Who
knows, you might want to for all I know. I'll just go write a webshite
or something.
Daniel Mitchell
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> of motion with your arms (similar to following through with a swing in
> baseball, or something like that...blah.) same thing is true with balls
> and rings too actually, I don't know, I noticed it most with clubs.
For what it's worth, Anthony Gatto said a similar thing at his workshop at
the BJC a couple of years ago; he called it 'lots of scoop', so it might be
a different idea -- don't just move your arms back and forth along a linear
path, make sure you throw and catch from different places.
-- dan