Balancing Clubs
skate4flip
I was wondering if anyone had some good tips for balancing a club on your
face. I have seen many videos of people balancing clubs on there chins,
noses, or foreheads so i decided to try it. I can't get anymore then 3-4
seconds while balancing it on my chin. I was wondering if anyone had some
good tips on how to learn it, and where the easiest/best place to balance
it is (example: chin, forehead, nose...).
Thanks.
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YnotJuggle
As frustrating as it may be you'll really only get better with practice.
There's not really any magical way to get better other than that. As for
positions, it really all boils down to personal preference. I practice
them all, though i tend to favor my nose.
pixel
"skate4flip" <jeffs...@aol.com.nospam> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I was wondering if anyone had some good tips for balancing a club on your
> face. I have seen many videos of people balancing clubs on there chins,
> noses, or foreheads so i decided to try it. I can't get anymore then 3-4
> seconds while balancing it on my chin. I was wondering if anyone had some
> good tips on how to learn it, and where the easiest/best place to balance
> it is (example: chin, forehead, nose...).
>
I prefer the nose.
Watch the top of the club.
Start with a peacock feather, or a long stick.
Can you balance a club on a finger ?
skate4flip
Ya, I can balance a club on my finger for a pretty long time.
Arachnoid
> Hi,
>
> I was wondering if anyone had some good tips for balancing a club on your
> face. I have seen many videos of people balancing clubs on there chins,
> noses, or foreheads so i decided to try it. I can't get anymore then 3-4
> seconds while balancing it on my chin. I was wondering if anyone had some
> good tips on how to learn it, and where the easiest/best place to balance
> it is (example: chin, forehead, nose...).
>
I found that the nose and chin were similar and complimentary balances.
Forehead is different as you are looking at the club from the 'wrong'
side.
It takes a while to get solid at the balance. I found the best trick to
improving was to plant my feet in one place and catch the club if i was
about to move around more than a tiny shuffle. Keep your knees bent and
try to feel relaxed about the whole thing, it will come eventually. You
need to keep your focus on the Centre of gravity of the club and remember
to breathe and blink occasionally.
Enjoy your balancing, i'm not long past your stage, just trying to get a
juggle going at the same time at the moment.
HTH
Russ
Jay Linn
<snip>
> It takes a while to get solid at the balance. I found the best trick to
> improving was to plant my feet in one place and catch the club if i was
> about to move around more than a tiny shuffle. Keep your knees bent and
> try to feel relaxed about the whole thing, it will come eventually.
If it works for you, fine, but I think bent knees is a no-no.
Instead, keep feet flat on the floor and shoulder width apart, roll
your pelvis forward so your bum is not sticking out, keep a straight
back, open your chest, relax your shoulders, and try to stretch your
neck upwards.
Posture is everything to good balancing technique, especially for face
balances.
> You
> need to keep your focus on the Centre of gravity of the club and remember
> to breathe and blink occasionally.
Damn right. People forget to breathe at all sorts of inappropriate
moments. Except Dan The Other Hat, obviously.
--
Jay Linn
Foible - what a New York cat does from time to time.
Jason Perry
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> Arachnoid wrote:
[...]
>> Keep your knees bent and
>> try to feel relaxed about the whole thing, it will come eventually.
>
> If it works for you, fine, but I think bent knees is a no-no.
I *think* what Russell means is 'soft' knees, ie don't lock your knees. This
allows for a little lower body movement to make small corrections. I'd agree
with this.
> Instead, keep feet flat on the floor and shoulder width apart, roll your
> pelvis forward so your bum is not sticking out, keep a straight back, open
> your chest, relax your shoulders, and try to stretch your neck upwards.
Why would you want to stretch your neck upward? Surely you want everything
to be as relaxed as possible. If you place the club just slightly lower so
that it touches your face, you won't need to stretch your neck upward.
Jason.
Jay Linn
<snip>
> I *think* what Russell means is 'soft' knees, ie don't lock your knees.
Granted. To my mind, straight legs is just that, i.e. what you call
'soft'. Locked knees is hyperextension, which just happens to be useful
for tight wire and slack rope, less so for balancing, IMO.
> This
> allows for a little lower body movement to make small corrections. I'd agree
> with this.
Yeah, though personally I would recommend movement of the area of the
Atlas joint, and to a lesser extent pelvic movement subtly altering the
aspect of the spine, over lower limb movement.
> Why would you want to stretch your neck upward?
Because it expands the range and ease of movement of the Atlas joint
and cervical vertebrae, and causes the surrounding musculature to become
more involved. I think. It worked for me in many different ways when I
was learning about Alexander Technique influenced stuff at circus school.
> Surely you want everything
> to be as relaxed as possible. If you place the club just slightly lower so
> that it touches your face, you won't need to stretch your neck upward.
Dude, I've just been to Bristol for a week. I'm horizontal with
chilledness. I could out-relax a sloth with narcolepsy. What more do I
need to do? [1]
[1] No, the answer bloody well isn't "change from short- to long-handled
clubs so they reach yer face".
--
Jay Linn
Learned to hula, thereby plumbing new depths of risible pointlessness.
SUPEREXTRAORDINARISIMO
than a club. Instead of chopping up your broom to get it to a shorter
length just look at the middle of the broom instead o the top. When you
get to a really short point just swap the broom for a club and viola!
Jason Perry
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Now there's a trick I'd like to see. Does the club go on top of the viola or
vice-versa?
Jason.
carjug
this takes time.
carjug
adremeaux
pixel wrote:
> Can you balance a club on a finger ?
I can balance a club on my chin far longer than I can balance one on my
finger. I don't think being able to balance on your finger helps
anything at all, really.
-andy
www.andydremeaux.com
Rory Parle
> I was wondering if anyone had some good tips for balancing a club on your
> face. I have seen many videos of people balancing clubs on there chins,
> noses, or foreheads so i decided to try it. I can't get anymore then 3-4
> seconds while balancing it on my chin. I was wondering if anyone had some
> good tips on how to learn it, and where the easiest/best place to balance
> it is (example: chin, forehead, nose...).
I balanced on fingers (both hands), palms, backs of hands, feet (toes
and heels), elbows, just about every reasonable part of my body. Then I
tried a nose balance and it took very little additional practice to hold
it for 30 seconds or more. If you get used to the weight and moment of
your clubs you'll be able to put them anywhere.
Don't forget to practice either.
--
Rory Parle
http://www.soylentred.net/
Adam
Here's my balancing 2 cents:
chin-best place for heavy objects(eg a chair), easier to allow a
balanced club to fall into your pattern can use the head flip as well,
can't apply this location to other objects like rings or balls very
well
nose-easiest place to balance small, light objects (a spoon), most
likely to make people think of a seal
forehead-most visually appealing balance point, most versative, drop
back kicks from here
I found the nose to be the easiest place to learn the balance using a
wooden dowel that I cut down (The complete juggler explains all this
it's a great book in general for things newer books leave out).
Adam
pixel
"Jason Perry" <JasonD...@JugglerDotNet.NoSpamThanks> wrote in message
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Which is easier ?
A viola or a violin ?
xfirebladex
Viola of course, the extra weight aids in the balance, especially if you
put it body up. Dan Menedez uses violins and a cello I believe though.
Maybe you should start off with something a lil less expensive and
tougher, maybe a juggling club perhaps?
Chiok
skate4flip
my finger for around 2 minutes, and about 15 seconds on my chin. I had a
very close call when i tried to balance on my nose and it slipped it off
and almost hit my eye. How long should i expect it to take to where i can
balance a club on my chin for a few minutes with good control?
I have seen a trick where people juggle and then sort of roll and chin off
there club into there other hand (is it a chin roll?). would this be a
good trick to learn? Any tips or links about it?
OnlyTheTim
seconds on my chin. However, as soon as I make any attempt to juggle with
something ballanced on my face, it falls right off. Are there any
strategies here? For example, should I be doing double spins so I can see
the clubs I'm juggling better (since I'm looking up) or should I try to
look down with my eyes?
Thanks!
shadow link
Well I'm sure someone has said this because everyone has probably been
told this, but I can't see it anywhere. Um yeah make sure you have a good
balance where you are really only moving your upper body, or even only
your nose or chin. Then just learn to juggle again with 1 club, like Jason
said you just go back to the start, when you can do 1 club try 2, the 3.
Try and get your singles nice an floaty so you can see them in the corner
of your eye. I think the more solid you balance is the less time you will
have to spend on 1 ans 2clubs.
Uri Yurman
heard the great Mikhail Staroseletzky, a few years ago, saying that before
you try to juggle, first practice doing insane movements with your hands
and upper body while balancing a club.
When I saw him demonstrating this, he was balancing a club on his nose
while moving his hands as if he was a boxer or as if he was juggling a
really bad 7ball pattern.
His advices has always been amazingly helpful, so I assume this one is
good as well (though I haven't yet reached the stage where I try to juggle
while balancing).
HTH,
Uri
Arachnoid
> I *think* what Russell means is 'soft' knees, ie don't lock your knees. This
> allows for a little lower body movement to make small corrections. I'd agree
> with this.
Yeah, cheers Jason, exactly what i meant. I tend to stand naturally with
my knees pretty much locked out, so i try to concentrate on bending them
slightly. Something i should do to improve posture generally, i guess.
Arachnoid
Advice i was given was to keep focussed on the balance. Took a while for
me to stop my eyes twitching downwards while juggling, but i finally
started to get what it meant last week and it all feels much better now.
Other advice i was given was to do a balance and spot a mark on the wall
directly behind the point you look at on the club. Put down the balance
while keeping your feet in place and then juggle the clubs while staring
intently at the spot you found earlier.
I only got to 20 throws last week so i'm not the most knowledgable
balancer out there, but the above ideas came from guys who are pretty
good.
You will find that doing juggling while balancing is far harder than doing
either separately.
Russ
shadow link
I havn't heard that before, that sounds fun, very benefical and
entertaining!