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ZGMZIMM

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Sep 30, 2002, 7:00:07 AM9/30/02
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I will be useing a .30-06 for black bear this fall. I do not handload. I'm
going to try Federal Premium 180 gr Nosler Partion loads to see how they shoot
in my rifle. If these don't work out, what other bullet styles are appropriate
for black bear? The area where I hunt has produced several in the last few
years over 600 lbs, the average being 350 to 400lbs. Ranges will be under 150
yards and probably 50 to 100 yards. Are "standard" 180 gr soft points such as
Core-lokt, Hi-SHock, and Power Points tough enough, or should I limit my
consideration to premium bullets like Fail-safes, A-Frames, Grand Slams, etc.?
TIA

-ZIMMY

Larry Caldwell

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Sep 30, 2002, 3:20:15 PM9/30/02
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In article <20020929064507...@mb-fu.aol.com>, zgm...@aol.com
writes:

> The area where I hunt has produced several in the last few
> years over 600 lbs, the average being 350 to 400lbs. Ranges will be under 150
> yards and probably 50 to 100 yards. Are "standard" 180 gr soft points such as
> Core-lokt, Hi-SHock, and Power Points tough enough, or should I limit my
> consideration to premium bullets like Fail-safes, A-Frames, Grand Slams, etc.?

Bears have big bones. I would stick with the premium bullets. Your
Federal Premium loads (Nosler Partition) or Remington Safari loads
(Swift A-Frame) are good choices. The standard soft point bullets
perform better at lower velocities and longer ranges.

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http://home.teleport.com/~larryc

Hank Jackson

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Sep 30, 2002, 4:42:51 PM9/30/02
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"ZGMZIMM" wrote [after snippage]
> I will be using a .30-06 for black bear this fall. I do not handload.
> Are "standard" 180 gr soft points. . .tough enough?
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Yup, they are. In fact, your ideal .30-06 factory load for black bear at
200 yards or less is the 180 Remington Soft Point (Round Nose). High dollar
premium loads are wasted on this kind of hunting. Let's face it: In most
black bear hunting, a "long" shot is 50 yards. And, at that range, I would
be happy to take on just about any critter in the Americas with the
Remington 180 SP factory load.

Andy

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Sep 30, 2002, 4:43:15 PM9/30/02
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The 180gr Nosler Partitions will work wonderfully for black bear. A friend
killed a 9'9" Kodiak brown bear with that same ammunition. Have fun!

-Andy
Kodiak, AK

Richard D. Licano

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Oct 1, 2002, 4:51:36 PM10/1/02
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If those don't work, Run!!

Richard

ralanb

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Oct 1, 2002, 4:51:35 PM10/1/02
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> I will be useing a .30-06 for black bear this fall.
> Are "standard" 180 gr soft points such as
> Core-lokt, Hi-SHock, and Power Points tough enough, or should I limit my
> consideration to premium bullets like Fail-safes, A-Frames, Grand Slams, etc.?
> TIA
>
> -ZIMMY

Considering the time and expense of a bear hunt I'd go with the more
expensive Fail-Safe type round. Find what your gun likes best and use just
that.
Alan

charles stoyer

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Oct 3, 2002, 3:08:10 PM10/3/02
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Or save one round for yourself!

"Richard D. Licano" <mea...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> If those don't work, Run!!
>
> Richard
> ----- Original Message -----

for Black Bear?


>
>
> I will be useing a .30-06 for black bear this fall. I do not handload.
I'm
> going to try Federal Premium 180 gr Nosler Partion loads to see how they
shoot
> in my rifle. If these don't work out, what other bullet styles are
appropriate

> for black bear? ...

Buck Hunter

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Oct 6, 2002, 3:36:07 AM10/6/02
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I have hunted black bear numerous times with a bow and also with a rifle.
With a bow, I have hunted over bait cans, as well as trying ground "sneak
attack" on bears dining in an oat field. I can honestly say, if you want an
experience, put away the rifle, pick up a bow and go for it. The "sneak
attack" approach definetly gets the adrenaline pumping. Hunting over bait
cans lets you be more selective of the bear you wish to take. But if you
must use a rifle, almost any decent ammo will work at close ranges (over
bait cans). If you are hunting fields where you might make a 200 yard shot
(why you would want to, I don't know) then I would opt for a premium ammo.
Good luck!

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HAV2HNT

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Oct 6, 2002, 4:57:13 PM10/6/02
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Buck Hunter wrote: put away the rifle, pick up a bow and go for it. The

"sneak attack" approach definetly gets the adrenaline pumping.

I would have to say that one should get some black bear experience under
there belt before going after the bears with a bow. Most people get so nerved
up that proper shot placement becomes an issue, espicially with archery gear. I
have talked with many guides that said even the most polished archers miss
-alot-, and worse off wound bears becouse they are so adrenalined up. "Bear
Fever" can be alot harder to control than "Buck Fever". Get a bear or two
under your belt then try the archery gear. FWIW...

Jim

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