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agr...@cray.com

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Apr 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/16/96
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You probably know Gander Mountain is in really tough shape. Their only
really profitable business was their mail order business and now their
largest competitor bought their mailing list and $35 million of their
mail order inventory.

The manager of the local Gander Mountain Store has no idea what will
come of the remaining retail outlets. He believes the stores will be
sold individually and likely will not reopen as sporting goods stores.

I will sure miss them. :(

al

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CWilli6247

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Apr 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/17/96
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In article <1996041615...@boomer.cray.com>, agr...@cray.com
writes:

>You probably know Gander Mountain is in really tough shape. Their only
>really profitable business was their mail order business and now their
>largest competitor bought their mailing list and $35 million of their
>mail order inventory.
>
>The manager of the local Gander Mountain Store has no idea what will
>come of the remaining retail outlets. He believes the stores will be
>sold individually and likely will not reopen as sporting goods stores.
>
>I will sure miss them. :(
>
>al
>
>

Oh,
This could raise some prices. I've made purchases from both & they
both provided good service. Less competition almost always means
higher prices.

Woody Williams

If you're too busy to hunt, you're too busy.

ACurtis672

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Apr 18, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/18/96
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To bad: They just opened a store in Merriville IN a year or so ago and it
is a wonderful place to shop. I guess I will have to start checking out
Bass Pro Shops catalog a bit more closely to make sure Cabelas stays in
line. Any other mail order houses out there that we hunters should be
looking at if Gander Mountain does in fact go under?

Mark Gahler

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Apr 18, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/18/96
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In article <4l685g$c...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>,

You might try Dunns mail order (800-223-8667), if you're interested
in stuff for bird hunting and bird dogs. I think their selection is
better than Gander in those specific areas, and the prices are
comparable for the things I've looked at.

I was in the Merriville store last November and loved it (and thanks
again to the r.h. poster who told me about it). Nothing like it exists
in Virginia that I know of. I spent a fortune on stuff I never knew I
needed before.

One of the nice things about Gander's mail order was the free shipping
policy they had going. I bought a GPS through them last year at the
lowest price going and with no shipping (or "handling") fee or sales
tax. You can't beat that.

Mark Gahler

R R Neuswanger

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Apr 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/19/96
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Dunn's for sure, especially for turkey gear:
800.223.8667; Bean for some things; Orvis for a few
(800.548.9548), such as their down shirt. Brownell's for things
like choke tubes, silica gel for your safe, etc., etc.:
515.623.5401; Stafford's (I don't have the number; somewhere way
down in Georgia) if you *really* want to spend money -- or buy
Tom Kelly's books!

On Thu, 18 Apr 1996, ACurtis672 wrote:

> To bad: They just opened a store in Merriville IN a year or so ago and it
> is a wonderful place to shop. I guess I will have to start checking out
> Bass Pro Shops catalog a bit more closely to make sure Cabelas stays in
> line. Any other mail order houses out there that we hunters should be
> looking at if Gander Mountain does in fact go under?
>
>


R.R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life
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Washington, DC 20540-4120 And I always vote.
rr...@loc.gov I speak for me. Only.

Jeff Mohr

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Apr 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/22/96
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My wife has worked for Gander Mountain for 3 years now and it has been
sad to watch the demise of this fine outdoors company.

You could see the decline with each management change. Where once the
sportsmen ran the corporation, it was slowly taken over by the bottom line
watching accountants. If you have been placing orders over the last few
years you have seen the slow elimination of the great service they once
provided.

If you place an order now and are told it is on back order, you may want to
think hard about it. There are currently truck loads of inventory that will
not be unloaded until they pay their bills. Very sad indeed.

Jeff Mohr

Robert G. Weinberger

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Apr 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/22/96
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CW> You probably know Gander Mountain is in really tough shape. Their
CW> only
CW> >really profitable business was their mail order business and now
CW> >largest competitor bought their mailing list and $35 million of t
CW> >mail order inventory.
CW> >
CW> >The manager of the local Gander Mountain Store has no idea what w
CW> >come of the remaining retail outlets. He believes the stores will
CW> >sold individually and likely will not reopen as sporting goods st
CW> >
CW> >I will sure miss them. :(


I was chatting w/ a manager of a Gander Mt. Retail Store on IRC the
other night - according to him they are definately getting out of the
mail order business, but intend to strengthen and concentrate on their
retail outlets.

Bruce Frytz

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Apr 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/22/96
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I can say from experience that Cabela's is a first class operation, and their
prices beat Gander's all to hell. For example, I received a blackpowder
revolver for my birthday last year. Cabela's price was 30 percent lower
than Gander's, and when I had a problem with the gun, they replaced it, no
questions asked, and shipped it to me next-day air to boot at no extra
charge.

The outdoor sporting-goods catalog business is crowded right now, and it has
reached the saturation point. Cabela's, Gander Mtn, LL Bean, etc. are all
vying for our dollars, and what we're seeing is Darwin's Law - Survival of
the fittest.

Just my $0.02 worth
Bruce Frytz

Bruce Frytz

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Apr 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/22/96
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> Well I've ordered things from both Gander Mountain and Cabela (while
> here in the UAE, both for delivery to me here, and to my parent's &
> brother in WI) and they don't seem to care enough about my business to
> send me a catalog. Too bad about Gander Mtn., but they deserve it and
> so does Cabelas in my opinion.
>
They may well have tried to send you catalogs. As I understand it, most
Arab countries have strict laws concerning importation of any printed
material they find objectionable, and although a picture of a female
model showing long thermal underwear might seem quite innocent to us,
their system of values are quite Victorian in nature.

Bruce Frytz

Sam Gaylord

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Apr 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/23/96
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Bruce Frytz (bfr...@iquest.net) wrote:
: I can say from experience that Cabela's is a first class operation, and their

It my just be MHO, but although I may have included LL Bean 20-25 years ago,
I would no longer consider them a sporting-goods catalog. At least not to
the extent of Cabella's, Gander Mountain, and/or Pro Bass Shops. The later
three have down to earth items where LL Bean has become the shop for Yuppies,
or a catalog for things to take to the Hamptons for the weekend.

Sure do miss the "old" LL Bean catalogs.

As for quality, you can't beat LL Bean, although Cabella's comes in a close
second. I've always been a little careful of Gander Mountain, as I've
received things from them that weren't up to what I expected from their
catalog description. I've never bought from Pro Bass's catalog, but was
VERY impressed as I walked through their store a couple of months ago.

samg

a.k.a Sam Gaylord (sa...@cs.itc.hp.com)
Hewlett Packard/Colorado Springs

Bryan Logan

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Apr 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/23/96
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On Mon, 22 Apr 1996, Bruce Frytz <bfr...@iquest.net> wrote:

> ... <snip>


> The outdoor sporting-goods catalog business is crowded right now, and it has
> reached the saturation point. Cabela's, Gander Mtn, LL Bean, etc. are all
> vying for our dollars, and what we're seeing is Darwin's Law - Survival of
> the fittest.

Saturation point??? IMO, the marketplace has never been more _compact_!
Where forth art thou, Herter's? Stoeger's? The _real_ Abercrombie & Fitch?
The _real_ Eddie Bauer? Is _anybody_ out there?

Cheers,
***********************************************
* =- Bryan Logan -=<>=- bvl...@delphi.com -= *
***********************************************

RAYDIST

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Apr 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/23/96
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I buy lots of stuff from Cabellas and I think they are GREAT. I just sent
back a parka that I bought in January of 95 that was loosing some of the
down feathers through the liner. They credited me in full. I've never had
a problem with them and have many of their hunting garments.

Abe D. Lockman

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Apr 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/24/96
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In article <4ljdji$2...@nonews.col.hp.com>, Sam Gaylord <sa...@col.hp.com> wrote:

> It my just be MHO, but although I may have included LL Bean 20-25 years ago,
> I would no longer consider them a sporting-goods catalog. At least not to
> the extent of Cabella's, Gander Mountain, and/or Pro Bass Shops. The later
> three have down to earth items where LL Bean has become the shop for Yuppies,
> or a catalog for things to take to the Hamptons for the weekend.
>
> Sure do miss the "old" LL Bean catalogs.

{deletion}

As do I; it has become another clothing boutique, although quality is
mostly reasonable to very good. Also, don't bother visiting them. I did
so last time in Maine, hoping to see an immense variety of gear not in the
catalogs. Nope, very little not in the catalogs, and sales help who often
knew less about their products then I did.

asdl

Kelly McMillan

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Apr 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/24/96
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Mark Gahler wrote:
>
> In article <4l685g$c...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>,
> ACurtis672 <acurt...@aol.com> wrote:
> >To bad: They just opened a store in Merriville IN a year or so ago and it
> >is a wonderful place to shop. I guess I will have to start checking out
> >Bass Pro Shops catalog a bit more closely to make sure Cabelas stays in
> >line. Any other mail order houses out there that we hunters should be
> >looking at if Gander Mountain does in fact go under?
>
> You might try Dunns mail order (800-223-8667), if you're interested
> in stuff for bird hunting and bird dogs. I think their selection is
> better than Gander in those specific areas, and the prices are
> comparable for the things I've looked at.
>
> I was in the Merriville store last November and loved it (and thanks
> again to the r.h. poster who told me about it). Nothing like it exists
> in Virginia that I know of. I spent a fortune on stuff I never knew I
> needed before.
>
> One of the nice things about Gander's mail order was the free shipping
> policy they had going. I bought a GPS through them last year at the
> lowest price going and with no shipping (or "handling") fee or sales
> tax. You can't beat that.


Both Gander Mountain and Cabela's have been customers on mine for some
time now, and I have the utmost respect for both of them. I have never
heard a bad report from customers on either one of them, and I don't
think that because Cabela's has aquired GM things should change

Kelly McMillan
McMillan Fiberglass Stocks Inc.
http://mcmfamily.com

Sam A. Kersh

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Apr 25, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/25/96
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Sam Gaylord <sa...@col.hp.com> wrote:

>It my just be MHO, but although I may have included LL Bean 20-25 years ago,
>I would no longer consider them a sporting-goods catalog. At least not to
>the extent of Cabella's, Gander Mountain, and/or Pro Bass Shops. The later
>three have down to earth items where LL Bean has become the shop for Yuppies,
>or a catalog for things to take to the Hamptons for the weekend.

>Sure do miss the "old" LL Bean catalogs.

>As for quality, you can't beat LL Bean, although Cabella's comes in a close


>second. I've always been a little careful of Gander Mountain, as I've
>received things from them that weren't up to what I expected from their
>catalog description. I've never bought from Pro Bass's catalog, but was
>VERY impressed as I walked through their store a couple of months ago.

I've caralog shopped with Cabela, Gander, Midland and Pro-Bass....
Cabela's prices are usually better than Gander's but occasionaly I'd
find a buy then would use Gander's 6 month, no interest plan.
Pro-Bass was an excellant experience, when they were back ordered,
they gave me a realistic fill date and met it.

LL Bean does have a cotton sport coat I may order (for CCW with
jeans), but their prices are high... If I can find the equivalent
elsewhere, I'll by-pass the Yummpy store... Forty years ago, my
favorite catalog came from Herter's!!!!

Sam A. Kersh
sa...@i-link.net

eli...@vt.edu

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Apr 25, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/25/96
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In article <4ljdji$2...@nonews.col.hp.com> Sam Gaylord <sa...@col.hp.com> writes:

>It my just be MHO, but although I may have included LL Bean 20-25 years ago,
>I would no longer consider them a sporting-goods catalog.

>Sure do miss the "old" LL Bean catalogs.

Me too. But I REALLY miss the old Herter's Company from the long-gine days of
my youth. Now THAT was an outdoor catalog. The post-GCA '68 generation
doesn't know what they've missed.

The Elitist

Tim Calvin

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Apr 25, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/25/96
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>>Sure do miss the "old" LL Bean catalogs.
>
>Me too. But I REALLY miss the old Herter's Company from the long-gine days of
>my youth. Now THAT was an outdoor catalog. The post-GCA '68 generation
>doesn't know what they've missed.
>
>The Elitist

Yeah! Like the government selling '03A3 Springfields, M1 Carbines, and .45
ACP Government semi-autos--one each for each citizen for less than $100
apiece (was it $50?).

I've still got some of those hard ol' Herter's knives that are so difficult
to sharpen. 'Course I have made a shear pin for an outboard motor using one
to cut a rusty nail to length by beating on it with a rock. I remember they
cost less than $5 (with leather sheath).

Tim Calvin <timh...@quiknet.com>
author of CD-ROM "Tim Calvin's Hunting the West"

Jim Wahl

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Apr 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/26/96
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In article <elitist.20...@vt.edu>, <eli...@vt.edu> wrote:
>Me too. But I REALLY miss the old Herter's Company from the long-gine days of
>my youth. Now THAT was an outdoor catalog. The post-GCA '68 generation
>doesn't know what they've missed.
>
>The Elitist

The catalog they have now is very nice. I still have one of their old
catalogs from th '60's and it is *GREAT*, especially the prices! ;-)

Jim Wahl

John S. Strahl

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Apr 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/26/96
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Tim Calvin <timh...@mail2.quiknet.com> wrote:
>>>Sure do miss the "old" LL Bean catalogs.
>>
>>Me too. But I REALLY miss the old Herter's Company from the long-gine days of
>>my youth. Now THAT was an outdoor catalog. The post-GCA '68 generation
>>doesn't know what they've missed.
>>
>>The Elitist
>
>Yeah! Like the government selling '03A3 Springfields, M1 Carbines, and .45
>ACP Government semi-autos--one each for each citizen for less than $100
>apiece (was it $50?).
>
>I've still got some of those hard ol' Herter's knives that are so difficult
>to sharpen. 'Course I have made a shear pin for an outboard motor using one
>to cut a rusty nail to length by beating on it with a rock. I remember they
>cost less than $5 (with leather sheath).
>
>Tim Calvin <timh...@quiknet.com>
>author of CD-ROM "Tim Calvin's Hunting the West"


Can I jump in? Remember Klein's in Chicago - Lugers at $29.95, hand
picked with matching numbers $5 additional. And they could mail it to you
at home. Those were the days. John

eli...@vt.edu

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Apr 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/26/96
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In article <4lqj0m$4...@news.paonline.com> "John S. Strahl" <the.y...@mdn.net>
writes:

>Can I jump in? Remember Klein's in Chicago - Lugers at $29.95, hand
>picked with matching numbers $5 additional. And they could mail it to you
>at home. Those were the days.

I bought my first centerfire rifle from Klein's in 1963: a Cacano, **exactly**
like Lee Harvey Oswald's (who bought his there, too) that was brand new, and
cost me $12.88! That included three boxes of new, boxer-primed, W-W ammuntion!

And in 1967 I bought a mint-condition Astra 600 pistol, with spare magazine
and a new issue holster w/cleaning rod for $31.00. All through the mail to my
address in New York City. When I got my Carcano I wanted to jhave it checked
before firing, so I rode the city bus with it--uncased--up and back to the
gun shop and nobody batted an eye. At that time you could buy guns in
**Macy's** in downtown Manhattan.

Those WERE the days. They were better than these days, and in more ways
than one. This was an entirely different country then, one that had some
genuine respect for the rights of citizens and one that didn't shoot down
civilians in cold blood and burn their corpses because they held beliefs the
government didn't like.

The GCA '68 was one of the darkest moments in our nation's history. May
Emmanuell Celler and Tom Dodd Sr. burn in Hell forever. The only good thing
to come out of that legislative horror was that it woke up the sleeping giant
of the NRA and turned it into the political pit bull it is now. That's saved
us from much, much worse in the intervening years. Too bad they weren't an
agressive and activist organization then, too.

The Elitist

JASON P. BEARY

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Apr 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/29/96
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>
> And in 1967 I bought a mint-condition Astra 600 pistol, with spare magazine
> and a new issue holster w/cleaning rod for $31.00. All through the mail to my
> address in New York City. When I got my Carcano I wanted to jhave it checked
> Those WERE the days. They were better than these days, and in more ways
> than one.


Need I remind you of fire hoses and police dogs turned on civil rights
demonstrators, the Vietnam meat grinder and blacks-only 2nd-rate water
fountains and restrooms?
Better days for SOME of us. (or you)
JB

Earl Perry

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May 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/2/96
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Tim Calvin <timh...@mail2.quiknet.com> wrote:

>>>Sure do miss the "old" LL Bean catalogs.
>>
>>Me too. But I REALLY miss the old Herter's Company from the long-gine days of
>>my youth. Now THAT was an outdoor catalog. The post-GCA '68 generation
>>doesn't know what they've missed.
>>
>>The Elitist

>I've still got some of those hard ol' Herter's knives that are so difficult


>to sharpen. 'Course I have made a shear pin for an outboard motor using one
>to cut a rusty nail to length by beating on it with a rock. I remember they
>cost less than $5 (with leather sheath).

>Tim Calvin <timh...@quiknet.com>
>author of CD-ROM "Tim Calvin's Hunting the West"

Old Flintheart was stocked via a Herter's catalog; I pondered and
pondered whether I could really go for the full $15 and get a
quarter-sawed, figured, tiger-stripe-pattern, inletted American walnut
blank -- it was such a huge sum. When it came it was all they had
said. These many years and brush-beatings later, it is still a
lovely thing to me. God alone knows what the Our Best Super Deluxe
blank would have been like.

And I used to puzzle over those Herter's Wasp-Waisted Sonic Bullets
that you could use to shoot a Pall-Mall cigarette out of the top of a
30-'06 shell, leaving the shell untouched -- at 200 yards. Where I
came from, you couldn't even see the damned shell, much less the
Pall-Mall, scope or no scope. I know. I looked and looked. But I
also knew it had to be true or Herters would never have put it in the
catalog. It was clear that though I wasn't one and would never be,
there were Giants in the Earth in those days.

Urocyon

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May 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/3/96
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You can still get a Herter's Catalog - I don't know if it is the same
company, but it is an outdoor supply subsiderary of Northern. Go to

http://www.northern-online.com/catalog.html

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