Elk loads for .270 Winchester ?
DAS
who have taken elk with a .270. Am curious about bullets for an animal
this size. Only hunting rifle I have is a Ruger 77 in .270 (have a
Garand, but that's a bit heavy to pack, and prefer to use a scope in
low-light conditions).
I tried some 150 grain round nose a few years back on Kaibab mulies,
and found that they punched right through, without much expansion, on
heart/lung shots. Have recently been using 130 and 140 grain BT and
Ballistic tip bullets, but they have been pretty frangible on mulies
and coues deer, so don't think they will penetrate well enough on a
bull. Prefer a BT, or at least a spitzer, that wont explode, that I
can work up an accurate load with. The rifle will group 0.75" to 1.10"
consistently using a 130 gr speer BT, but opens up to 1.5" or more
using Nosler ballistic tips. Much prefer the sub-MOA groups,
especially when the range gets longer.
Have ordered some Barnes "X bullets" in 140 and 150 grain BT and
spitzer to play with. Am curious about some of the other available
bullets (Nosler partition, Trophy Bonded, etc). Any shared opinions
and experiences greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Dave
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#who have taken elk with a .270. Am curious about bullets for an animal
#this size. Only hunting rifle I have is a Ruger 77 in .270 (have a
#Garand, but that's a bit heavy to pack, and prefer to use a scope in
#low-light conditions).
I hunted elk for years with my Ruger 77RL (light weight) I took 3 bulls & 2
cows. I'm not a reloader, so I bought Hornady 140 gr BT. The 140 gr is faster &
flatter than the 150 gr & carries energy downrange better than the 130 gr.
>The rifle will group 0.75" to 1.10"
#consistently using a 130 gr speer BT, but opens up to 1.5" or more
#using Nosler ballistic tips. Much prefer the sub-MOA groups,
#especially when the range gets longer.
If this is your first time elk hunting I'd suggest working on YOUR condition.
An elk's kill zone is a pretty big target, but you might not be able to hit a
basketball at 50 yards if you're huffing & puffing from a steep climb to the
top of a mountain. I mean no offense, you may all ready be in great physical
condition, but every year I see people who are great shots who never get
themselves into postion to take one.
Good Luck Dave, BTW where are you going & what season?
Dave Proffit <DPRO...@AOL.COM>
amar...@qadas.com
DAS <nodamns...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
# I've been drawn for elk (1st time) and would like to hear from people
# who have taken elk with a .270. Am curious about bullets for an animal
# this size. Only hunting rifle I have is a Ruger 77 in .270 (have a
# Garand, but that's a bit heavy to pack, and prefer to use a scope in
# low-light conditions).
Dave;
I have the same model Ruger as you. It has taken 3 elk, all cows, at
ranges from 30 to 300 yards. Two were one-shot kills.
Loads used were 130 grain Hornady Spire Point at chronographed velocity
of 2825 fps. This load was used for a one-shot kill at 300 yards. The
other load was 130 grain Nosler Partition loaded to MV of 2925. It
produced a one-shot
kill for me last fall, distance of 30 yards. My wife used it 2 years ago on a
cow at <50 yards. She had to finish the elk with a second shot but the first
would have been fatal, just not immediate.
If you don't reload you may want to try Winchester's new Fail Safe load in 140
grain. The Barnes is probably a good choice too.
Al Marlowe
Evergreen, CO
L. Holland
#
# I've been drawn for elk (1st time) and would like to hear from people
# who have taken elk with a .270. Am curious about bullets for an animal
# this size. Only hunting rifle I have is a Ruger 77 in .270 (have a
# Garand, but that's a bit heavy to pack, and prefer to use a scope in
# low-light conditions).
# I tried some 150 grain round nose a few years back on Kaibab mulies,
# and found that they punched right through, without much expansion, on
# heart/lung shots. Have recently been using 130 and 140 grain BT and
# Ballistic tip bullets, but they have been pretty frangible on mulies
# and coues deer, so don't think they will penetrate well enough on a
# bull. Prefer a BT, or at least a spitzer, that wont explode, that I
# can work up an accurate load with. The rifle will group 0.75" to 1.10"
# consistently using a 130 gr speer BT, but opens up to 1.5" or more
# using Nosler ballistic tips. Much prefer the sub-MOA groups,
# especially when the range gets longer.
#
# Have ordered some Barnes "X bullets" in 140 and 150 grain BT and
# spitzer to play with. Am curious about some of the other available
# bullets (Nosler partition, Trophy Bonded, etc). Any shared opinions
# and experiences greatly appreciated.
I have killed 3 spike bulls and 2 cows with the .270. My first loads
were with the 160 gr. Nosler Partition which provided excellent
results. I have since switched to the 150 gr. Nosler Partition since it
allows a slightly higher velocity with little loss of mass or energy.
The 3 spike bulls and 1 of the cows dropped practically in their
tracks. The other cow I had to do some trailing on because of a bad hit
(My fault not the load). I shoot a Remington 760 pump and have shot 1
inch groups at 200 yds with the loads from a bench. For me, the loads
are very accurate and provide excellent results. I would definitely
recommend giving the Nosler Partition a try. Good luck and I only wish
I could share the upcoming hunt with you.
Lonnie Holland
Choctaw, Ok
Ben R. Ogletree, Jr.
#
# I've been drawn for elk (1st time) and would like to hear from people
# who have taken elk with a .270. Am curious about bullets for an animal
# this size. Only hunting rifle I have is a Ruger 77 in .270 (have a
# Garand, but that's a bit heavy to pack, and prefer to use a scope in
# low-light conditions).
#
# I tried some 150 grain round nose a few years back on Kaibab mulies,
# and found that they punched right through, without much expansion, on
# heart/lung shots. Have recently been using 130 and 140 grain BT and
# Ballistic tip bullets, but they have been pretty frangible on mulies
# and coues deer, so don't think they will penetrate well enough on a
# bull. Prefer a BT, or at least a spitzer, that wont explode, that I
# can work up an accurate load with. The rifle will group 0.75" to 1.10"
# consistently using a 130 gr speer BT, but opens up to 1.5" or more
# using Nosler ballistic tips. Much prefer the sub-MOA groups,
# especially when the range gets longer.
#
# Have ordered some Barnes "X bullets" in 140 and 150 grain BT and
# spitzer to play with. Am curious about some of the other available
# bullets (Nosler partition, Trophy Bonded, etc). Any shared opinions
# and experiences greatly appreciated.
# Thanks,
# Dave
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I have had good luck with elk with my .270 Rem Mod 700BDL. Cartridge of
preference for me are the Federal Premium loads which come with a Nosler
Partition bullet. Quite a bit more expensive, but doesn't mean much in
the price of an elk hunt.
Have killed two bulls one at about 80 yds the other at about 200. One
shot through the ribs and lungs. The other through a shoulder. Both one
shot kills. Shoulder shot went down right there. Lung shot ran about 75
yards.
Suggest you spend some time on the range with whatever you use. Also be
prepared for some physical stress. After you get 'em down the real work
starts and there's no air up there where the elk live.
If you want to visit further on this give me an email direct.
Ben R. Ogletree, Jr.
AdamsinAz
Win, 150g Nosler partition. The shot was broadside, and the bullet broke the
near shoulder, traversed the chest cavity turing the heart and lungs into
pieces, with a very small (the backend of the partition?) exit hole in the
"armpit". I am still amazed with this performance with I think back on it.
You can't go wrong with this load. I took home 220# of deboned meat from this
bull, which I would guess means 700 lbs live weight? Anyway, not the largest
bull ever, but not a small one either.
Good luck
Dave
DAS
hard part is likely to be staying warm.
Dave
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#Good Luck Dave, BTW where are you going & what season?
#Dave Proffit <DPRO...@AOL.COM>
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York Miller
CorLokts. I was very disappointed with the bullet performance--a short
range (10 yard) shot passed through both lungs with only a small exit
hole. Fortunately, I was lucky and persistent enough to follow up and
find the bull about 1/2 mile from where the first shot was taken and make
another lung shot, this time at 150 yards, which did put him down. I do
not know if the problem was the short range of the first shot, but I now
use 150 gr Nosler partitions in the Federal load.
York Miller
L D O
#
# Ten years ago, I took a 5x5 using a .270 shooting Remington 130 grain
# CorLokts. I was very disappointed with the bullet performance--a short
# range (10 yard) shot passed through both lungs with only a small exit
# hole. Fortunately, I was lucky and persistent enough to follow up and
# find the bull about 1/2 mile from where the first shot was taken and make
# another lung shot, this time at 150 yards, which did put him down. I do
# not know if the problem was the short range of the first shot, but I now
# use 150 gr Nosler partitions in the Federal load.
Sure cure for elk, .338 or .340 magnum. I would hate to track an elk for
two days, wwith a .270 slug in him.
DAS
it's a bit heavy to carry about. The original Question concerned
loads/ reloads for the .270 for Elk. Bought some Barnes X-bullets in
140 and 150 grain, but have since heard that they are hard to load if
you're looking for good groups. Any further tips on bullet selection,
or factory loads will be greatly appreciated!
Dave
On 29 Aug 1998 23:06:34 -0400, L D O <dow...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
#LDO wrote:
#
#Sure cure for elk, .338 or .340 magnum. I would hate to track an elk for
#two days, wwith a .270 slug in him.
George Boggs
nodamns...@worldnet.att.net says...
# [...] Bought some Barnes X-bullets in
# 140 and 150 grain, but have since heard that they are hard to load if
# you're looking for good groups.
I never had any less accuracy with Barnes in my 270 than I had with any
other bullet. However, they will leave a lot of copper in your barrel and
you do have to seat them a little deeper because they are longer (so
don't use recipes from other bullet books to build your load - you can
get overpressures). But there is no better elk bullet.
# Any further tips on bullet selection,
# or factory loads will be greatly appreciated!
Any modern premium partitioned bullet, or the Barnes, will do the job
well enough to ensure that success will depend on your shooting skill and
not on the bullet.
--
G Boggs
In the beginning, there was nothing. And God said,
"Let there be Light." And there was still nothing,
but you could see it.
K. Piotrow
JCBDC
.270 is fine, I use Nosler Partition in 150 gr. and feel adaquate. I have
used a .300 Wea. but most of the elk I have shot at were well within the .270
range. Its lighter and has less recoil so I feel that if you are familar with
your .270 and can shoot it well and will know your range, it will do fine for
your hunt.
JOE