100 Deer per Sq. mile/ Shelter Island, N.Y.
RWendt3292
know if I should laugh or cry, what will it take to make people understand the
need for control? When will they accept the fact that herd reduction by hunting
is the only answer to this problem?
The Village will allow residents to install eight foot fencing. New type of
zoo, people in 8 ft. cages and the animals run free. I only write this to let
other hunters know how out of control a herd can get. All other types of
controls have been used in the past and have failed.
One more for the laugh/cry: Last year a resident hired a professional hunter to
kill deer on his property, one of the kills was a nice big buck. Neighbor
claims that the buck was his pet/ part of his family. He sues the hunter and
the resident who hired him, for mental disstress or something like that. Goes
to court and is tossed out. Still cost the resident and the hunter good money
to fight this suite.
Bob
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one we have now and the new one where there eyes will move to the side of
their heads and they will become true herbivores.
TB
jon:
have a growing deer problem.
But I don't know what people think deer are going to
do or where there going to go when builders keep
cutting down the woods where they live and build
homes or factories. That's what's happening here
in MO. Some people don't seem to realize that these
deer have been living in these woods for years and
just because they cut some of the trees down, that
usually does not make them go away. Another reason
is the fine grass and plants people put in there
yards and that's just a great meal for a hungry deer.
One thing the Conservation Commission has done this
year is have one or two Black Powder hunts in the
areas where possible.
Just Some Thoughts:
You Take Care:
jon:
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David G. Michels
> Some people don't seem to realize that these
> deer have been living in these woods for years and
> just because they cut some of the trees down, that
> usually does not make them go away. Another reason
> is the fine grass and plants people put in there
> yards and that's just a great meal for a hungry deer.
The removal of the forest habitat and creation of new 'edge' habitat has
been happening all over the country. I see it all the time where I live
in MD, and I am starting to think that there are basically two types of
deer emerging. ONe is the type that is on the hunting lands, and those
populations may be under some control. The other type is the ones that
peruse the neighborhoods at night and take refuge in the 'green area' or
the local park during the day. I don't see any pressure that will
remove them from the neighborhoods, and the arrival of the local
homeowners' associations make doing anything about them next to
impossible. I would suspect the deer that are less afraid of humans
will be the ones getting hit by cars etc.
Frank V.
paths along with humans. We've seen some huge bucks.. including a 23
pointer that I took a photo with. Makes me wonder after spending those
frozen mornings in the woods and see nothing but a tail :) the 'locals'
( really summer residents) think that 'immuno-contraception shot into
deer by blow/dart guns are the solution. Well it's not working either.
The deer eat garbage and literally beg in the paths. Sad sight. God
forbid someone hunt them, they'd rather see the poor deer starve and eat
scraps. Oh Well, they'll learn.
RWendt3292
Dont know if anyone did a story about Shelter Island, but I do remember
a story being done on the same problem in North Haven. There are a few
areas here on Long Island , including Fire Island , which have this
problem now. Newsday had a story about Shelter Island's deer in Dec.
7th paper and that is why I only wrote about it. The article also
stated that a man was killed while riding a bike, when a car hit a deer
and the deer got flung onto the bike rider. I'm sad to say more
accidents like this is what it will take to get something done.
Bob
D Brewerton
>
> Even at this number, no special action is being taken to reduce the herd. Don't
> know if I should laugh or cry, what will it take to make people understand the
> need for control? When will they accept the fact that herd reduction by hunting
> is the only answer to this problem?
> The Village will allow residents to install eight foot fencing. New type of
> zoo, people in 8 ft. cages and the animals run free. I only write this to let
> other hunters know how out of control a herd can get. All other types of
> controls have been used in the past and have failed.
> One more for the laugh/cry: Last year a resident hired a professional hunter to
> kill deer on his property, one of the kills was a nice big buck. Neighbor
> claims that the buck was his pet/ part of his family. He sues the hunter and
> the resident who hired him, for mental disstress or something like that. Goes
> to court and is tossed out. Still cost the resident and the hunter good money
> to fight this suite.
>
> Bob
In Banff National Park (Alberta, Canada) the herd of 60 or so elk in the
townsite is now around 600. Elk are not as polite as deer so they're
planning on trapping 80% of them and moving them. They've been eating
the plants around the homes (pop.~8000) and threatening the people. At
least two injuries to people and dozens of attacks annually. Try
fighting it out with a 6x6 bull elk. They're even talking about bringing
back predators (ie wolves, etc) to help keep the herd under control.
Just what I'd like to see on a green of the Banff Springs Golf Course, a
wolf munching on an elk. "Pardon me sir, may we play through?" Get up in
the morning and have a partially eaten elk on your back or front lawn.
Real good for the tourist trade.