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Gene Bramblett

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Oct 6, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/6/00
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Some friends and I will be in Iowa for opening day of pheasant season
later this month. We will be hunting "dogless" and I was wondering if
anyone had any tips for such a situation. Thanks in advance for any help
offered.

Gene

"I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of
the people by gradual and silent encroachment of those in power than by
violent and sudden usupations." - James Madison

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Robert A. Schwarz

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----- Original Message -----
From: Gene Bramblett <gene-br...@webtv.net>
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Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 4:38 PM
Subject: "Dogless" Pheasant Hunting


> Some friends and I will be in Iowa for opening day of pheasant season
> later this month. We will be hunting "dogless" and I was wondering if
> anyone had any tips for such a situation. Thanks in advance for any help
> offered

>Gene,
>The best tip I can give you is to pause frequently for intervals of about
ten to twenty seconds when walking the cover. This makes the birds nervous
and they will often flush. Schw...@frontiernet.net

Chris Barnes

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"Gene Bramblett" <gene-br...@webtv.net> wrote

> Some friends and I will be in Iowa for opening day of pheasant season
> later this month. We will be hunting "dogless" and I was wondering if
> anyone had any tips for such a situation. Thanks in advance for any help
> offered.


My best advice is to find someone with a dog and invite them to join you!


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Cal & Tammi

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I like to hunt "edges" around fields and such. Places I can cover by myself
by zig-zagging back and forth through. Usually I try to time my hunts so
that I catch the birds moving from the heavy stuff out into the fields to
feed. Or I might walk areas that serve as a runway or tunnel between two
areas, such as fencelines, drainage ditches, etc. I never seem to have much
luck with the large CRP tracts. Too much space to cover and when I do try
them, I nearly always find the birds near the edges. But then I live in
North Dakota too.

CAL

Steve Jones

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Oct 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/9/00
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>Some friends and I will be in Iowa for opening day of pheasant season
>later this month. We will be hunting "dogless" and I was wondering if
>anyone had any tips for such a situation.
>Gene

Best advice I could offer is to invite a guy with a dog.

Regards,

A guy with a dog <G>

PS: Otherwise, mark your birds down very, very well. Drop an orange hat
or something where you stand when the bird hits the ground, pick a good
mark lined up on the horizon with where the bird dropped, and get there in
a hurry. If the bird is not exactly where you think it was at first, drop
another orange item and start making slow, widening spiral circles.

Good luck!

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Oct 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/10/00
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I'm told it helps to stop & be silent - they get nervous & this will
sometimes make them flush. Be careful if you have a partner working on
the other side of a fencerow.


In article <4.3.2.7.2.200010...@mail.stlnet.com>,


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Jim Rogers

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"Gene Bramblett" <gene-br...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Some friends and I will be in Iowa for opening day of pheasant season
> later this month. We will be hunting "dogless" and I was wondering if
> anyone had any tips for such a situation. Thanks in advance for any help
> offered.
>

"Dogless" pheasant hunting? Is there any other way?

Lucky you! I grew up in central Iowa and hunted pheasant with Dad,
Granddad, my uncle, and my brothers. Never had a dog. (Heck, I never had a
shotgun! Was just there to help flush the birds!) We would line up abreast
and walk the corn fields near the fence lines or creeks. Invariably we would
reach the end of the rows and flush pheasants.

Best tip I can give is what worked for us back then -- line up and hunt corn
and bean fields along the 'edges'; fence lines, creeks, hedge rows, CRP
land, etc.

PS--
Only pheasant I ever shot was with an Ithaca .22 lever action rifle. Was
hunting rabbit in some CRPland and had a pheasant fly up in front of me.
Didn't think, just brought the gun up and shot. Knocked the pheasant down
but was never able to find it. Be sure to mark downed birds well! Wear a
blaze orange hat, go to where you think it went down and throw down the hat.
Works for doves, should help with pheasants.

Best of luck to you!

Happy Hunter

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Oct 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/10/00
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"Jim Rogers" <jim...@email.msn.com> wrote in message >
[Snip]

>
> PS--
> Only pheasant I ever shot was with an Ithaca .22 lever action rifle. Was
> hunting rabbit in some CRPland and had a pheasant fly up in front of me.
> Didn't think, just brought the gun up and shot. Knocked the pheasant down
> but was never able to find it. Be sure to mark downed birds well! Wear a
> blaze orange hat, go to where you think it went down and throw down the
hat.
> Works for doves, should help with pheasants.
>
> Best of luck to you!
>
I'm no expert with cartridges, but wouldn't a .22lr go rite through a
pheasent and possibly hit something a long way away? Is it safe to hunt
flushing birds with a .22lr? It sounds fun and challenging, but how far
will that round go after going through a large bird?

Happy Hunter

Globaleyes News

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Oct 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/11/00
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When you are hunting without a dog, make sure you walk in a zig-zag motion.
This covers more area and since pheasants will sit still go rather slow. I
can't tell you how many times I have stopped for a minute and a bird would
take off. I guess they think that you have a track on them. The trick is
to be methodical. Kick every grass pile no matter how small it seems. You
can also set up one or two people as blockers at the end of the cover and
drive pheasants to them since some birds are runners. Just be careful about
where you swing your shotgun.

Be safe and have a happy hunting day!
Carl


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Some friends and I will be in Iowa for opening day of pheasant season
later this month. We will be hunting "dogless" and I was wondering if
anyone had any tips for such a situation. Thanks in advance for any help
offered.

Gene

"I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of
the people by gradual and silent encroachment of those in power than by
violent and sudden usupations." - James Madison

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Chris Barnes

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"Happy Hunter" <nate...@junkmail.nvbell.net> wrote

> I'm no expert with cartridges, but wouldn't a .22lr go rite through a
> pheasent and possibly hit something a long way away? Is it safe to hunt
> flushing birds with a .22lr? It sounds fun and challenging, but how far
> will that round go after going through a large bird?


I suspect he shot the bird while on the ground....

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Oct 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/13/00
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I've had good luck hunting pheasant by myself here in Calif by using
binoculars to spot the birds. Once you spot a bird, you wait for it to
get out of sight and then rush to the spot. Good luck.

In article <29019-39...@storefull-167.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,


"Rec.hunting discussion list" <HUN...@LISTSERV.TAMU.EDU> wrote:

> Some friends and I will be in Iowa for opening day of pheasant season
> later this month. We will be hunting "dogless" and I was wondering if
> anyone had any tips for such a situation. Thanks in advance for any
help
> offered.
>
> Gene
>
> "I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom
of
> the people by gradual and silent encroachment of those in power than
by
> violent and sudden usupations." - James Madison
>
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Jim Rogers

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Oct 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/13/00
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"Chris Barnes" <chris....@mail.com> wrote in message
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> "Happy Hunter" <nate...@junkmail.nvbell.net> wrote
> > I'm no expert with cartridges, but wouldn't a .22lr go rite through a
> > pheasent and possibly hit something a long way away? Is it safe to hunt
> > flushing birds with a .22lr? It sounds fun and challenging, but how far
> > will that round go after going through a large bird?
>
>
> I suspect he shot the bird while on the ground....
>
> --

No, in the air. It flushed and flew straight away, about 10 feet off the
ground. It was probably 70 feet out when I hit it. This happened 35 years
ago when I was a foolish teenager. ( I DO NOT recommend shooting pheasants
with a .22!) In this particular case I had 2 miles of open crop land in
front of me, along with a slight hill that acted as a backdrop.

Also knocked a sparrow down once with my Daisy BB gun. It also was flying
straight away, about 125 feet out and slightly downhill. No question about
it, a very lucky shot.

Living out in the country we got to do a lot of shooting, and didn't have
any close neighbors to worry about. One of our favorite pastimes was
throwing up tin cans and shooting them with a .22. We all got pretty good
at it. (Remember we had a safety zone that extended 2 miles downrange.)

But the luckiest/best shot I have personally seen was my uncle taking a clay
pigeon down with a Remington .22. Granddad, Dad and my uncle were shooting
clay pigeons out by the grain bins. Uncle was doing the throwing and was
ribbing Granddad and Dad pretty hard about missing. He finally loaded up
Granddad's .22 and leaned it against a fence. He then threw another
pigeon, grabbed the .22, waited for Greanddad and Dad to miss, then shot the
clay pigeon on the first shot. By the time he hit it, the pigeon was past
the end of a row of 5 grain bins, each about 20 feet in diameter.

BTW, Granddad's Remington was in Browning's semi-auto, take-down design.
Decided I would never live long enough to inherit it, so I bought a Browning
in the same design about 20 years ago. Good choice, as Granddad is 90 and
still has his Remington!

Tricia and ED Miles

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----- Original Message -----
From: Happy Hunter <nate...@junkmail.nvbell.net>
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: "Dogless" Pheasant Hunting


> I'm no expert with cartridges, but wouldn't a .22lr go rite through a
> pheasent and possibly hit something a long way away? Is it safe to hunt
> flushing birds with a .22lr? It sounds fun and challenging, but how far
> will that round go after going through a large bird?
>

> Happy Hunter

First, it does not sound fun and challenging but more like illegal and
unsafe. The chances of being able to hit the bird in the first place is
incredibly slim. .22lr will travel quite a ways after you miss and you run
the risk of injuring another. Second, whether or not the round would travel
through the bird would depend on the design of the round and what it struck
as it traveled through the bird. If it exited the bird somehow, I doubt
that it would have much energy left and the danger would be very little.
Last, the original poster was not hunting flushing birds at the time but as
he stated he was hunting rabbits and had a bad reaction shot at a pheasant.
I would suggest that a bit more gun control would be called for in this type
of situation. If I am hunting rabbits with a .22lr, I am looking for still
shots at a small mammal on the ground. I would not even think of drawing up
on a moving animal, the least of which a bird in flight. I hate to see what
would have happened if it had been another hunter that had startled him. I
am not saying anything would have happened but it is just something to think
about. Ed

Jim Rogers

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"Tricia and ED Miles" <mile...@forbin.com> wrote in message
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As the original poster, I agree. Stupid thing to do, even if I was 13 or 14
at the time. As I approach 50 I've gotten a ***little*** smarter!

BTW, at the time I was by myself on Granddad's farm with 2 miles of
harvested corn fields between me and any houses, etc. It wasn't so much a
'bad' reaction as a stupid one --- I knew what my target was and what was
behind it. Wouldn't have the same reaction today.

I am very opposed ot shooting a target that is not 100% verified. Last year
I was hunting elk in an area with 4-point restrictions. Passed up three
shots at different bulls because I couldn't count the 4th point, even though
I knew in my heart the bulls were legal. Turned out to be a 5x4 (shot by my
buddy a few seconds later), a 6xSomething (counted the points after it was
out of range of the .44Mag carbine I was using that day), and another bull
with a HUGE main beam that dwarfed the beam on my buddy's 5x4. Had a great
time anyway!

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