"Sissy Loads for 6mm Rem.?"
Todd Smith
that I'm trying to introduce to shooting. Both are WAY city kids. Bought the
Rugar 1022 and they both shoot it pretty well. Now it's time to step up (they
want to shoot yoties) But they are terrified of the kick anything bigger than
the 1022 will produce. To the point of tears! I backed off, I want this to be
fun.
So I figured if we loaded "Special kids bullets" together. This would ease some
fear. So far so good, Everybody loves to load bullets!! And trusts the idea.
Now anybody have an idea on how to load a 55 grain BT down to 2400-2800 FPS?
Back loading that far makes me nervious. To small of a charge can be just as
dangerous as to much. Bin to several loading manuals--fat chance. All of us are
trying to make screamers. Faster, flat shooting ect.
At this point I could give a crap for accuracy, I just want to get them to put
a few down the tube and get comfortable.
Small bullet-- small charge slow burning powder = light recoil--Right?
God please don't make me put a Muzzle Break on my 6 mm BDL.
Any Ideas???????????????????
Thanks
Todd Smith
Dale
The American Rifleman had some reduced loads listed in an article
years ago. I THINK it was the April 82 issue. I have some older
Speer and Lyman manuals that list reduced loads. I think all three
sources used faster powders like IMR4198 and SR 4759. Light loads of
slow powder can get you in trouble. I used the info to load some
squirrel loads for my 270.
Sorry I'm not much help, but all my reloading stuff is at my parents
house. However I wanted you to know that the info is available, you
need to dig.
Superposed
.270 -- someone gave me about 300 of the fmjs, So I made plinking rounds (used
a slightly reduced load of the same powder for 140 gr Nosler partitions) the
felt recoil was severely reduced and it was still quite fast.
Steve
wrote:
The Speer Reloading Manual #12 has reduced loads for the Speer 80
grain Spitzer SP bullet (Speer Part No. 1211) in the 6mm Rem.
Starting load - 16 grains of IMR4198 for 1801 fps
Max load - 18 grains of IMR4198 for 2037 fps
Primer CCI 200, R-P case, tested in a Rem 700
Please get hold of the manual and double-check.
There are also reduced loads for 90 and 100 grain bullets.
BTW is it recoil that's the problem, or muzzle blast?
HTH
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G Gibbs
worthless POS's RUIN the asthetics of rifles and to me the noise they
produce is more terrifying than the recoil of a 460 Weatherby Ultra Light
Moutain rifle. Also, you might want to borrow a .223 bolt or some other .22
centerfire. Just start them off slowly.
You're on the right track; load light bullets. Use middle-of-the-road
cast bullet data and you can load them right down to 2000 fps or less.
Greg
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Robert Grizzard
> Here's my predicament, Have a 14 year old stepson and 10 year old stepdaughter
[...]
> Small bullet-- small charge slow burning powder = light recoil--Right?
Don't use small charges of slow-burning powders. That has been associated
with disaster for years. Small charges of uncoated powders (which burn
faster by virtue of the missing coating) are the ticket for reduced loads.
You can find loads for the 6mm Remington with a 90 grain bullet and SR 4759,
IMR 4227 or IMR 4198 by following the links at http://www.imrpowder.com.
Looking at charge weights versus muzzle velocity, 4198 might be more sedate
at the velocities you want but my choice would be the SR 4759.
> God please don't make me put a Muzzle Break on my 6 mm BDL.
No need.
> Any Ideas???????????????????
> Thanks
> Todd Smith
HTH
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Found a load at Accurateloading .com that is just the ticket.
'Hodgdon Powder Company, Inc. data for the 6mm Remington w/ a 55gr.
bullet & H4895 lists a max. load of 45.5 grs. @ 4115 fps. You may reduce
that either 60% or 75%
I backed it up 65% and the 6 shoots like a .22
Foam plugs under muffs has been a help and I own 35 acers that I have set up a
range on, so they don't have to sit next to the guy with a .338 and a break.
Thanks again
Todd Smith
Michael Brady
> the 1022 will produce. To the point of tears!
FPS?
> Back loading that far makes me nervious. To small of a charge can be just
as
> dangerous as to much. Bin to several loading manuals--fat chance. All of
us are
> trying to make screamers.
put
> a few down the tube and get comfortable.
> Small bullet-- small charge slow burning powder = light recoil--Right?
> God please don't make me put a Muzzle Break on my 6 mm BDL.
> Any Ideas?
Todd, It's a shame they somehow got the idea into their heads that rifles
kick hard enough to be afraid of. Your idea for a load in the .22 Hornet to
.25/20 range makes sense. You're right in not wanting to use reduced
charges of slow burning powder. A middling charge of fast or medium burn
rate powder is probably what you're looking for. I've seen such loads in
the older Speer manuals IIRC. But what the children may benefit from most
is a stock cut to fit them and equipped with a 1 inch Pachmayr Decelerator
recoil pad. I'm usually no fan of bipods but a Harris might let them worry
less about balancing the rifle so they can concentrate on hitting. Blast
being as distracting to new shooters as recoil muzzle brakes are more of a
problem than a cure. The kids should wear hearing puffs under ear muffs.
Finally, take them shooting when no one else is touching off big bottle
magnums, especially at a range with covered firing positions. Nothing good
will come of them being buffetted by blast and dazzled by flash while
watching grown men get pummeled by their rifles. Good hunting! Michael
Ben Reinhardt
cartridges. A lot of them use IMR 4759. Velocities are usually in the 1500
to 1900 fps range. You might give that a try.
Ben R.
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Sam A. Kersh
wrote:
>Speer reloading manuals used to list reduced loads for most centerfire
>cartridges. A lot of them use IMR 4759. Velocities are usually in the 1500
>to 1900 fps range. You might give that a try.
Speer's #11 & 12 show only 4198 for reduced loads...
80 grain bullet 16.0 grain 4198
90 grain bullet 17.0
Later editions might have more data and different powders.
Sam A. Kersh
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