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MARIUS FLORIN MAN

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Aug 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/2/99
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This is a question for a New York resident.
l am a student and l recently moved to Albany, NY.
l am looking for a knowledgeable person to give me direction for good
hunting places around Albany for rabbits and squirrels. On private or public
land.

And a question for the knowledgeable hunters out there.
How do l hunt rabbits without having a dog? How useful is the dog in rabbit
hunting?
l see a lot of people walking there dogs on my street. l could
probably make a deal with one of the owners if a dog is indispensable.

Thank you,
Marcus

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Sam Gaylord

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Aug 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/2/99
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MARIUS FLORIN MAN (MARKU...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
: This is a question for a New York resident.

: l am a student and l recently moved to Albany, NY.
: l am looking for a knowledgeable person to give me direction for good
: hunting places around Albany for rabbits and squirrels. On private or public
: land.

Don't know

: And a question for the knowledgeable hunters out there.


: How do l hunt rabbits without having a dog? How useful is the dog in rabbit
: hunting?

1) it's a lot easier and more enjoyable with a dog. You can hunt rabbits
with out a dog, but YOU do a lot more walking. You have to learn to kick
every brushpile you pass, go thru every briar patch, and trod every where
a rabbit would hide. Also if you kick out a rabbit you have to shoot
it before it disappears into the brush. With a good hound dog, you can
stand still until the rabbit circles back when the dog chases it.

: l see a lot of people walking there dogs on my street. l could


: probably make a deal with one of the owners if a dog is indispensable.

A run of the mill dog is better than nothing, but nowhere a good as a
good beagle or basset hound when it comes to following a rabbit's scent.

: Thank you,
: Marcus


samg

a.k.a Sam Gaylord (sa...@cs.itc.hp.com)

Dan

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Aug 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/3/99
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Marius,
You do not need a hunting dog. In any case, a good rabbit dog will
rarely be found on the end of someone leash in some city. Don't use a beagle
or hound. They are one minded and once on a trail, will rarely come to you
when you call them. I prefer a dog that has a bit of cocker spaniel. They
are easier to control. You can have excellent hunting if you go hunting with
a partner. Each of you takes his turn kicking the rabbits out of brush piles
and underbrush while the other does the shooting.
DanBoutin
MARIUS FLORIN MAN
> (snipped)

> And a question for the knowledgeable hunters out there.
>How do l hunt rabbits without having a dog? How useful is the dog in rabbit
>hunting?
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Arkansas Redneck

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Aug 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/4/99
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MARIUS FLORIN MAN <MARKU...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> This is a question for a New York resident.
> l am a student and l recently moved to Albany, NY.
> l am looking for a knowledgeable person to give me direction for good
> hunting places around Albany for rabbits and squirrels. On private or
public
> land.
>
> And a question for the knowledgeable hunters out there.
> How do l hunt rabbits without having a dog? How useful is the dog in
rabbit
> hunting?
> l see a lot of people walking there dogs on my street. l could
> probably make a deal with one of the owners if a dog is indispensable.
>
> Thank you,
> Marcus


My brother and I hunted cotton tail rabbits as kids and developed a pretty
good system. We would take turns killing the rabbits so we could both have
a little fun. We would walk a road, path, track, of edge a wooded area.
One would carry the shotgun and the other would carry the .22. We use #7
with improved cylinder. A real scatter pattern. We would swap guns after
each kill. Most of the time the shotgun was used, because the rabbit would
bolt a few feet then circle into the rough cover. The times we were able to
have a shot with the .22 the person using it got a free kill. We learned
being quick to whistle when the rabbit bolted would many times stop the
rabbit for a shot. We would kill more than we would care to clean on
several occasions. We always had plenty of fun and shooting.

We would start out about 2:00 and go to dark for best results. We would
walk and hunt down a road and if we missed any we would walk it again an
hour or so later. Rabbits are extremely stupid. We flushed the same rabbit
three times before we were able to kill it. We would walk side by side
about five feet apart. The person with the shotgun on the side away from
the edge of a fence line or wooded area. Many times he will have to shoot
behind the two of you because the rabbit flushed out to the rear. Also
being on the outside gives the shooter a better angle to shoot the rabbit.
We would shoot at the rabbit even as it ran in to the cover. We have killed
rabbits as far as two feet in thick brush, because the shot carried though.
Rabbits are very easy to kill. My brother killed one be scaring it to
death. He shot under it with the .22 and it jumped, hopped twice and
stopped. Upon examining it, we found it had not been hit.

I went by myself last season with no dog and limited out. It was easier and
more enjoyable with a friend.

DScottY

Mark Howard

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Aug 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/5/99
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You are more likely to find a person who will loan you his wife for sex
than find a person who will loan you a trained rabbit dog or gundog.
Taking an untrained dog will ALWAYS be more of a hindrance than a help.

Look for a bean field which might have a "nuisance rabbit" problem &
offer to help the farmer get rid of those "nasty 'lil rodents."

Mark

Alex Vitek

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Aug 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/7/99
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On Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:26:53 CDT, MARIUS FLORIN MAN
<MARKU...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> This is a question for a New York resident.
>l am a student and l recently moved to Albany, NY.
>l am looking for a knowledgeable person to give me direction for good
>hunting places around Albany for rabbits and squirrels. On private or public
>land.

There have been some good and downright interesting responses to your
question so far.

One idea I have not seen yet, though, is to try to find a club or
organization in your area. I would suggest looking for a hunting/gun
club composed of local people. Most of these clubs will let you attend
a meeting or two without being a member. You might just meet someone
who will let you in on the local hotspots on public access lands or
even have access to some nice rabbit territory on private lands.

Failing that, look for a fishing club. While not all fishermen hunt,
many do. One of my best hunting partners (other than my son and my
brother) was someone I met at a fishing club. Another I met at a
handgun club. Man, do we have a squirrel hunting story to tell.

> And a question for the knowledgeable hunters out there.
>How do l hunt rabbits without having a dog? How useful is the dog in rabbit
>hunting?

Not absolutely necessary. Go out after a light snowfall and track the
rabbits. Want just enough snow on the ground that the old tracks are
covered but the new ones will stand out. My best luck has been a half
hour to one hour after it stopped snowing.

> l see a lot of people walking there dogs on my street. l could
>probably make a deal with one of the owners if a dog is indispensable.

It is highly unlikely that these are trained dogs. I have yet to meet
anyone with a trained rabbit dog who will take it for a walk. They
tend to put them in the back of their trucks or cars and take them
somewhere to run them.


Alex

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Aug 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/12/99
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I am looking for land to hunt in the Columbia county

(Kinderhook-Chatham-Ghent-Valatie-Stuyvesant-Niverville). I am a serious
hunter who enjoys Turkey hunting as well as deer hunting with the Bow
and rifle. I have just moved back to the area after spending 10 years in
California, all the prime hunting land that I grew up hunting has all
been leased out or posted up tight. So this past year I had asked
permission from some local farmers and found myself opening day hunting
in a spot where from my stand i could see 3 other hunters. needless to
say I left the woods quite early opening morning. on return trips I was
constantly finding others up in my stand which becomes quite
aggravating. Or people that i had kicked out of my stand early in the
year would move 50 yards away and sit. i have become a member of the
tri-village gun club in Valatie, which is decent hunting but fighting
the crowds is very tidious. There is a total of 26 acres and on opening
afternoon you could count 15 - 20 cars parked, If anyone knows of land
available to hunt where the crowds are low and the farmers are willing
to let people on please let me know. It seems that Columbia county over
the years has been more tightly posted and farmers are leaning more
towards leasing their land which makes it tough for an individual to get
out there and enjoy the sport. Or if there is anyone interested on
getting together a small group of guys to approach some farmers on
leasing their land please contact me at my aol address below.

Please enclose Hunting in the subject line.
I can be reached at:

DBLE...@aol.com

thanks in advance;
Gary


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