30-06 vs .300 win mag for moose
David G Meinen
I was just wondering if anyone had an opinion on wether a 30-06 would
work as a moose rifle. I have talked to some people that say it ios
underpowered and I should go top a .300 win mag and I have talked to
others who have said they regret their .300 and wish they had bought the
much more versatile and less recoiling 30-06 for moose and as a deer and
black bear gun. I would like to go for a moose hunt in the next few
years and am itching to buy some new toys so any opinions would be welcome.
Thanks,
David Meinen
Guelph, Ont.
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rutledge
David G Meinen wrote:
>
> I was just wondering if anyone had an opinion on wether a 30-06 would
> work as a moose rifle. I have talked to some people that say it ios
> underpowered and I should go top a .300 win mag and I have talked to
> others who have said they regret their .300 and wish they had bought the
> much more versatile and less recoiling 30-06 for moose and as a deer and
> black bear gun. I would like to go for a moose hunt in the next few
> years and am itching to buy some new toys so any opinions would be welcome.
> Thanks,
> David Meinen
> Guelph, Ont.
The .300 has advantages two ways. It has a velocity, thus range
advantage with any given bullet weight. For any set velocity, it can
throw a heavier bullet.
I dunno how far you usually shoot at moose.
What I can tell you is that either will work with good bullet so long as
your impact velocity (not muzzle velocity) remains above 2200 fps at
whatever range you shoot at. So, the '06 with a 200 grain bullet might
be a 200 yard gun where the .300 is a 350 yard gun with the same
bullet. (Always assuming adequate accuracy, etc.) Makes no difference
which one you pick if you never shoot over 150 yards.
If you shoot farther, you have to give up bullet weight to gain
velocity, thus losing penetration, or you have to put more "boiler room"
behind the bullet.
If you leave BIG bears off the list, aside from moose and elk, I think
you have an advantage with the .300 ... lighter bullets and higher speed
do make a dramatic difference on light and medium game.
On really big critters, you need a heavy bullet that penetrates deeply.
Sometimes high velocity and greater expansion can work against you.
Personally, for moose, if I could get close, I'd prefer the '06/200.
I'm absolutely convinced it'd stomp the daylights out of the "famous"
6.5 Swede/160 "moose killer."
Tom
K. Karcich
In article <35184F...@sou.edu>, rutledge <rutl...@sou.edu> wrote:
>David G Meinen wrote:
>>
>> I was just wondering if anyone had an opinion on wether a 30-06 would
>> work as a moose rifle. I have talked to some people that say it ios
>> underpowered and I should go top a .300 win mag and I have talked to
>> others who have said they regret their .300 and wish they had bought the
>> much more versatile and less recoiling 30-06 for moose and as a deer and
>> black bear gun. I would like to go for a moose hunt in the next few
>> years and am itching to buy some new toys so any opinions would be welcome.
>> Thanks,
>> David Meinen
>> Guelph, Ont.
>
Either will kill moose easily, and I generally agree with Toms comparison,
although I would put the effective range of the '06 as a moose gun at
greater than 200 yards.
The real problem with hunting moose is not killing them, but stopping them
from running and getting in a swamp. With any caliber, this requires good
shooting, but a heavy bullet helps, if you want to break the moose down
on the spot. You can effectively kill a moose with a .270 or 6.5 Swede
if you want, but the moose will rarely expire on the spot, and the further
he travels, the more trouble you are going to be in when you realize how
big that moose is, and you find out that the swamp he just died in is
3 feet deep, and you can't get a rope, cable or 4wheeler to the carcass.
When you start quartering out that bull standing in cold water up to your
hips, you will wish you had used a big gun to put him down back where you
first spotted him.
I have only hunted moose in Maine, but the conditions there are clearcuts,
with swamps all around. Most of the Maine Guides I have talked to like big
bullets for moose hunting, and consider the 06 as perfectly satisfactory,
although the .338 is better. The two we killed were killed with a .375
Whelen and a .35 Whelen, and the furthest either one made it after being
hit was 10feet. Both guns were handloaded with Nosler Partitions.
Ken Karcich
William Bowser
I use an '06 for everything from whitetail to huge elk..(no moose yet) but
having studied some on the subject the Moose hide is not as thick as that of
Elk or even Mule deer (they say) and an '06 as an all around rifle is
magnificent.. I own a five year old Savage Stainless thats take many deer..I
have coming a new Remington 7400 in synthetic..I also have a 300 win mag
Century arms (Mauser action) that has put very big holes in some very large
animals.. it's all in how you shoot,..have a great hunt..
David G Meinen wrote:
> I was just wondering if anyone had an opinion on wether a 30-06 would
> work as a moose rifle. I have talked to some people that say it ios
> underpowered and I should go top a .300 win mag and I have talked to
> others who have said they regret their .300 and wish they had bought the
> much more versatile and less recoiling 30-06 for moose and as a deer and
> black bear gun. I would like to go for a moose hunt in the next few
> years and am itching to buy some new toys so any opinions would be welcome.
> Thanks,
> David Meinen
> Guelph, Ont.
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Bruce Nelson
I have shot a few moose with 30-06 rifles and one with a .300 Savage. A 30-06
with heavy, well-made bullets, properly placed, is plenty of gun for moose.
Moose do not often run far like an elk when hit hard, so follow-up shots are
usually possible too. A personally like the versatility of my 30-06 rifles,
although I have a .338 and a .308 rifle as well as my .300 Savage.
Bruce Nelson
Author "Hunting Big Whitetails"
Bshpilot22
>From: William Bowser
>I use an '06 for everything from whitetail to huge elk..(no moose yet) but
>having studied some on the subject the Moose hide is not as thick as that of
>Elk or even Mule deer (they say) and an '06 as an all around rifle is
William,
Whoever told you that a moose hide was not as thick as a elk or deer was dead
wrong. You may wish to discount anything else they say in the future as well.
Doug Obert
Upper Stikine River Adventures
http://members.aol.com/StikineRiv
justme
The '06 is capable of killing a moose, or most any thing that you want, but
the 300 would be a better choice if you don't mind the recoil simply because it
will send the same bullet flatter, faster and with more energy. As for more
versatile, both guns are quite versatile especially if you re-load, what these
people are probably talking about is the recoil might make it uncomfortable
enough for them that they don't shoot as much, and if they use a lighter bullet
that will generate less recoil it can have a tendency to blow up when it hits a
deer and tear up meat, but this problem can be solved by going to the 200 grain
bullet.
My advice to you since you have friends with a 300 win mag is to see if you
can shoot one of their rifles, and if shooting a box or more of ammo doesn't
bother you I would go with the 300, if you the recoil does bother you, and you
need to be honest with your self, then I would go with the 30-06 since the
rifle that is more comfortable to shoot is the one that you will shoot better
and more often.
If you think that the 300 is the coolest thing that you ever had ahold of
then you might even want to check out a 338, it'll stop about any thing that
you are ever likely to come across.
Have fun what ever you choose.
David G Meinen wrote:
> I was just wondering if anyone had an opinion on wether a 30-06 would
> work as a moose rifle. I have talked to some people that say it ios
> underpowered and I should go top a .300 win mag and I have talked to
> others who have said they regret their .300 and wish they had bought the
> much more versatile and less recoiling 30-06 for moose and as a deer and
> black bear gun. I would like to go for a moose hunt in the next few
> years and am itching to buy some new toys so any opinions would be welcome.
> Thanks,
> David Meinen
> Guelph, Ont.
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