What's a"Ted Williams" Shotgun

[BuzAck]

I've got a "Ted Williams" brand 12 ga. auto-loader. I know these were
sold at Sears, this one around 1970. Anyone know who really made it, so I
can get a manual? Thanks.

[Frytz, Bruce W.]

My first gun was a Ted Williams break-action single-shot 20 gauge. It's a
light, sweet-handling gun, and I still use it for squirrels, rabbit, and
other small game.

I would also be interested in who made it, along with my 12-gauge J.C.
Higgins autoloader, also sold by Sears.

Bruce W. Frytz, P.E.
<bfr...@iquest.net>
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When the people fear the government, there is tyranny
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[TIM VENALECK]

BuzAck wrote:
>
> I've got a "Ted Williams" brand 12 ga. auto-loader. I know these were
> sold at Sears, this one around 1970. Anyone know who really made it, so I

> can get a manual? Thanks.I think your Ted Williams shot gun was made for
Sears by Winchester

[bjwak...@aol.com]

>>I've got a "Ted Williams" brand 12 ga. auto-loader. I know these were
>>sold at Sears, this one around 1970. Anyone know who really made it, so
I

>>can get a manual? Thanks.
>>
>My first gun was a Ted Williams break-action single-shot 20 gauge. It's a
>light, sweet-handling gun, and I still use it for squirrels, rabbit, and
>other small game.
>
>I would also be interested in who made it, along with my 12-gauge J.C.
>Higgins autoloader, also sold by Sears.
>

I remember when the Ted Williams / JC Higgins guns were sold by Sears. In
fact, I had a bolt action 12 guage. The guns were probably made by
whoever would do it for the least money. It was always my understanding
that Mossberg built most or all of them.

Bob

[eli...@mail.bev.net]

BuzAck wrote:
>
> I've got a "Ted Williams" brand 12 ga. auto-loader. I know these were
> sold at Sears, this one around 1970. Anyone know who really made it, so I
> can get a manual? Thanks.

It's probably a Hi-Standard, they made guns for Sears for decades. When Sears
got
out of the gun business it was one of the things that drove them under.

Get a copy of the Gun Parts Company catalog, they have a cross reference list to
tell you who made what models for private labels. Your gunsmith will have a
copy.
If it's not a Hi-Standard it will be a Marlin most likely. Parts for the "name
brand" version will fit private label guns.

BTW, private label guns always sell for less used than the "name brands" and
I'll
pick up a JC Higgins or Ted Williams or Western Field model any time. Other
than
the name there's no difference from the originals.

The Elitist

["jeff_dodd_(by_way_of_alex_vitek_<alexvit@ix.netcom.com>)"]

BuzAck wrote:
>
> I've got a "Ted Williams" brand 12 ga. auto-loader. I know these were
> sold at Sears, this one around 1970. Anyone know who really made it, so I
> can get a manual? Thanks.

I believe they were made by Stephens-Savage.
--
Jeff Dodd
jd...@gnv.fdt.net
dodd....@shands.ufl.edu
http://gnv.fdt.net/~jdodd

["starcast99_by_way_of_alex_vitek_<alexvit@ix.netcom.com>"]

I have a auto load 12gauge "Ted Williams" shotgun from sears in mid 70s it
was made by Winchester a model 1400 . I hope this helps its a good gun but
a little heavy.

[Brian Adams]

Frytz, Bruce W. wrote:

>
> At 09:41 PM 1/25/97 GMT, you wrote:
> >I've got a "Ted Williams" brand 12 ga. auto-loader. I know these were
> >sold at Sears, this one around 1970. Anyone know who really made it, so I
> >can get a manual? Thanks.
> >

> My first gun was a Ted Williams break-action single-shot 20 gauge. It's a
> light, sweet-handling gun, and I still use it for squirrels, rabbit, and
> other small game.
>
> I would also be interested in who made it, along with my 12-gauge J.C.
> Higgins autoloader, also sold by Sears.

I think most of the "Ted Williams" and J.C. Higgins shotguns were made
by Marlin.

[James Buhr]

BuzAck <buz...@aol.com> wrote:

>I've got a "Ted Williams" brand 12 ga. auto-loader. I know these were
>sold at Sears, this one around 1970. Anyone know who really made it, so I
>can get a manual? Thanks.

Find a Gun Parts Corp. catalog,they used to be
Numrich Arms. It has parts lists for most of the old Sears firearms as
well as indicating the original manufacturer. You can order a cat.
from their web page at www2.gunpartscorp.com/gunpartshome.html

[Starcast99]

I have the same gun it is a winchester model 1400

[Jack Arnold]

In Article Re: What's a"Ted Williams" Shotgun

Check the serial number. Following is a list of manufacturers based on the
first three numbers of the serial number. BTW there are fourteen differnet
manufacturers listed for Sears.

The most common are: 273 = Olin Corp., Win.
103 = Marlin
101 = Savage
102 = Savage
446 = Mossberg
340 = Ithaca

The above information is taken from the NRA Firearms Fact Book, Third edition.

====================================
Jack Arnold wjar...@gssi.com
Fairfax, VA (703) 849-9047
Date: 02/04/97 Time: 08:55:23
====================================

[John P. Husvar]

On Tue, 4 Feb 1997 08:55:23 -0500, Jack Arnold <wjar...@gssi.com>
wrote:

>In Article Re: What's a"Ted Williams" Shotgun
>
>Check the serial number. Following is a list of manufacturers based on the
> first three numbers of the serial number. BTW there are fourteen differnet
> manufacturers listed for Sears.
>

Is there someone out there who can help me similarly?

I have a Sears "Model 200" 12-gauge shotgun--Serial#P210XXX

Serial# and "M200 - 12 GA." stamped on front underside of the
receiver, just behind the magazine tube.

Any idea what manufacturer made this one? Looks a lot like a Mossberg,
but I'm not expert enough to tell for sure.

Thanks,
John

[James Buhr]

BuzAck <buz...@aol.com> wrote:

>I've got a "Ted Williams" brand 12 ga. auto-loader. I know these were
>sold at Sears, this one around 1970. Anyone know who really made it, so I
>can get a manual? Thanks.

Find, beg ,borrow a Gun Parts Corp. catalog(used to be
Numrich Arms). They list most of the old Sears guns and have about
the only exploded views available. they'er on the www somewhere and
you can order a catalog from there.
If you e-mail me the mod. # I'll see if it's listed in
mine(old).

Jim

["james_buhr_by_way_of_alex_vitek_<alexvit@ix.netcom.com>"]

BuzAck <buz...@aol.com> wrote:

>I've got a "Ted Williams" brand 12 ga. auto-loader. I know these were
>sold at Sears, this one around 1970. Anyone know who really made it, so I
>can get a manual? Thanks.

-

Beg ,borrow or buy a Gun Parts Corp. ,
West Huley , N.Y.,catalog. They used to be Numrich Arms. It lists
parts for most of the old Sears and Mont. Wards firearms as well as
hundreds of related "toys".
I think they've got a web page ,but can't
find te address right now.
E- mail me with the model number if you
can't wait for your catalog.

Jim
bra...@primenet.com

[rocknock...@gmail.com]

Around 1970 winchester made the semi automatic and the pump action guns.
Rockn...@yahoo.com

[Garrison Hilliard]

On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 00:22:05 -0800, rocknock...@GMAIL.COM wrote:

>Around 1970 winchester made the semi automatic and the pump action guns.
>Rockn...@yahoo.com

It's a shotgun sold by Sears under what used to be their quality
sporting goods brand "Ted Williams", named after the famed baseball
player Ted Williams.




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[Gunner Asch]

On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 18:52:29 -0500, Garrison Hilliard
<garr...@efn.org> wrote:

>
>
>On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 00:22:05 -0800, rocknock...@GMAIL.COM wrote:
>
>>Around 1970 winchester made the semi automatic and the pump action guns.
>>Rockn...@yahoo.com
>
>It's a shotgun sold by Sears under what used to be their quality
>sporting goods brand "Ted Williams", named after the famed baseball
>player Ted Williams.
>

Well..its the Sears Trade Name for firearms sold through Sears stores.
They generally were Winchesters, Marlins, Nobels, Stevens and other
brands.

Many firearms makers in the past would make a firearm..then stamp it
according to the buyers requirements. Some orders so marked may have
been as little as 10 items. Many small midwest hardware stores had
their names or a Nym "Peters Hardware Co" stamped where the makers
name normally would be. We dont see much of this anymore..but nearly
every retailer used to do this. Wards, Sears, Kmart, JL Hudsons, etc
etc

Western Field was Montgomery Wards "trade name"

Some further examples of just shotguns.... sold by other companies....

Excel--Crescent Fire Arms, Iver Johnson's Arms & Cycle Works,
Crescent-Davis Arms Corp.
Hercules--Iver Johnson's Arms & Cycle Works, Stevens Arms & Tool
Co
Knockabout--Crescent Fire Arms Co, Stevens Arms & Tool Co
Lakeside--Crescent Fire Arms Co
Peerless and Peerless Gun--Crescent-Davis Arms Co, Savage Arms Co
Texas Ranger--Stevens Arms & Tool Co
Ward's Hercules--Stevens Arms & Tool Co
Western Arms Co--Ithaca Arms Co
Western Field--Iver Johnson's Arms & Cycle Works, Stevens Arms &
Tool Co

IRRC..there were over 600 trade names of shotguns alone..many of them
being those small hardware stores. Ive got an old beater Nobel bolt
action 16 ga marked "Western Auto"....

You may find this NRA publication interesting.....

http://www.nramuseum.com/media/940938/store%20brand%20crossover%20list.pdf


Gunner



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