Illinois Ban on Firearms
phil
of the night.
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The Illinois State Rifle Association has received a large number of
e-mails concerning SB1195, the Daley-Blagojevich gun ban and
confiscation bill. Below are answers to some of the more common
questions they have received.
Which of my guns would be banned by SB1195?
SB1195 would ban most, if not all the semiautomatic rifles that you
own. That would include your AR-15 target rifle; the M-1 Garand that
you got from the CMP; your M1A match rifle; and that old M1 Carbine
your grandfather brought back from the war. Your inline muzzleloaders
would be banned as well. Also, all accessories and spare parts for
those guns would be banned too. Also, banned are any firearms of .50"
bore or larger including all shotguns other than .410 bore and muzzle
loading black powder rifles and muskets. All large capacity (more than
10 rounds)magazines are also banned
What choices will I have if I own guns banned by SB1195?
Within 90 days of passage of SB1195, you will have to do one of the
following:
Turn your banned guns in to the police - for no compensation of
course.
Bring your banned guns to a gunsmith and have the receiver cut or the
bolt welded shut.
Transfer your banned guns out of state.
Sell your house and move out of state.
What would happen if I got caught with a gun banned by Daley?
Penalties for possessing a banned gun will be severe. For example,
that M1 Carbine handed down to you by your grandfather plus 3
magazines would earn you 30 years hard time in prison. That extra
oiler kit you have for the Carbine would get you another 7 years hard
time.
I'm not going to surrender my guns. They'll never find out, will they?
Unfortunately, they may know what you own already.
Several months ago, The Illinois Shooter reported on a shady
paramilitary unit called the Chicago Anti Gun Enforcement (CAGE) unit.
Made up of Chicago cops, ATF Agents, and detectives from the Illinois
State Police, the purpose of the CAGE unit is to put in place the
mechanism for confiscating guns from law-abiding citizens once the
Daley Gun-Free Illinois plan is put in place.
For the past few years, CAGE unit operatives have been gathering
information on law-abiding gun owners and the guns they own. They have
done this in several ways. One way has been to demand gun trace
information from gun shops. To do that CAGE operatives send the gun
shop a name, and the shop must, by law, turn over all gun purchase
information for the person having that name. CAGE operatives have also
been visiting gun shops and copying names and gun information from
dealers' "books." Information we have gotten from gun shops indicates
that the people that CAGE has been focusing on are people that have
purchased semiautomatic rifles and pistols, and households where more
than one person holds a FOID card.
To expand on the activities of the CAGE unit, Daley is trying to get
his "Dealer Licensing Act" put in place. If the "Dealer Licensing Act"
passes, the CAGE unit will be authorized to go into every gun shop in
the state and confiscate all of the dealer's sales records. Those
records will be brought back to the Chicago Police Department where
they'll be entered into a computer. Once that is done, the CAGE unit
can find your AR-15 merely by entering a few keystrokes into the
computer.
And you'd better believe...Daley and CAGE plan on finding you.
How will SB1195 be enforced?
You can expect SB1195 to be vigorously enforced. Early operations will
probably be against high profile members of the pro-gun movement such
as gun club officers and people who may have written letters to the
editor opposing Daley's gun grab. The purpose of the early operations
will be to demoralize and embarrass gun owners into compliance.
The level of drama used by Daley's CAGE unit may vary. Gun owners may
well find themselves 'picked up for questioning' at their place of
employment. Imagine being dragged away from your desk in handcuffs
just because you decided to keep that old M1 Carbine your grandfather
handed down to you.
A no-knock, night raid on your home is certainly not out of the
question - we've seen it happen other places. Dozens of CAGE troops
would storm your house. They'd toss "flash bang" grenades in your
bedrooms. Family pets would be dispatched with quick shotgun blasts.
And, within minutes, you and your family would find yourselves on your
front lawn, hog-tied and naked while CAGE troops ransacked your home
looking for that old M1 Carbine your grandfather handed down to you.
But, what about my rights?
If SB1195 passes, anyone who owns, or who has ever owned a banned
firearm is will become a suspected felon. As a suspected felon, your
rights are few. Being a gun owner makes you a suspected felon who is
"armed and dangerous." Therefore, the use of deadly force during the
course of your apprehension would be authrorized.
But, isn't this America?
Not any more.
John Chase
> [ snip ]
While it is true that IL SB1195 (and its "companion" HB2632) proposes to
ban a lot more than just what have become known as "semi-automatic
assault rifles", the bill also contains exemptions for at least some of
the firearms that "phil" mentioned. Additionally, two amendments are
"on the table" for SB1195; though neither makes the bill any more
palatable, the second at least "grandfathers" most currently-owned
firearms on the "ban list" (the first is intriguing in its brevity).
You can check the content and status of SB1195 here:
and the content and status of HB2632 here:
Though both bills appear to be "stalled" right now, neither can be
considered "dead". Continued vigilance is required....
-jc-
Joe P.
not alone in this kind of lunacy. See the link below:
Andy
War between the states will have to be turned in. All the Great
grandpa's in America who passed down and down to their children their
.50 caliber rifles would be subject to prison time if not turn over to
authorities? You can contact me at my new Hunting website at
www.andydreamcatcher.com I can see some types of gun should be removed
but lets not get stupid.
bas...@jimbeatty.com
<sigh>
Which 'types of gun' should be removed, Andy? Why should they be
removed?
Let's not get stupid.
Jim
JCKRigby
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<snip>
<"...I can see some types of gun should be removed but lets
not get stupid."
Illinois has been on the slippery slope since the
not-so-bright, elected folks in Springfield implemented the
Firearms Owner Identification Card (FOID) in 1968. The GCA
followed in the same year, at the federal level.
Subsequently, numerous municipalities in our state have
adopted their own restrictions, Chicago leading the pack.
How many more bite sized pieces are you willing to have
taken out of your rights?
I agree to the "...let's not get stupid" part.
JCK (who's just getting into hunting, and is really annoyed
with "hizzoner")
g
implemented. As soon as I could I left the state and moved to a more gun
friendly state where CCW is allowed. It was the best decision I ever made
in my life.
G
<bas...@jimbeatty.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 2 Jun 2003 17:05:41 -0500, Andy <Dadd...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Does this mean all the .50 caliber muskets that were used in the Civil
> > War between the states will have to be turned in. All the Great
> > grandpa's in America who passed down and down to their children their
> > .50 caliber rifles would be subject to prison time if not turn over to
> > authorities? You can contact me at my new Hunting website at
> > www.andydreamcatcher.com I can see some types of gun should be removed
> > but lets not get stupid.
>