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Kenneling adopted german shorthair pointer (gsp) during day

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Mike H

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Apr 7, 2003, 5:30:06 PM4/7/03
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I recently adopted a 2 year old gsp who is crate trained. I am
curious as to what other owners do with their dogs during the work
day? I am feeling guilty about leaving him in the crate while I'm at
work. Is this cruel and am I giving him a worse life than he had in
the shelter?

I take him for at least three walks a day, he is free to roam the
house when I am home and we take hikes on the weekends. Just curious
if this is a nice life for a gsp.

Thanks in advance. Mike from minnesota.

Greg Larson

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Apr 8, 2003, 10:27:08 AM4/8/03
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Mike H wrote:

Mike, Don't worry, you are doing the right thing! Unless you are putting
in 15 hour days that is. The crate is a great tool, and it's a lot
better than coming home to shredded sofa, carpet, bed, pillows or
whatever. Keep doing what you are doing by giving him exercise & love
and a good home. When he gets a bit older and less apt to trash the
place you can try leaving him out for periods if his personality states
he can be trusted.

Congratulations of your GSP they are great dogs, even to a Brittany man
like me.
Greg

Geese_Hunter

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Apr 9, 2003, 2:08:38 PM4/9/03
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"Mike H" <hallbe...@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote in message
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My almost 2 yr old GSP is in his crate when we are gone, 8 hrs max. When
the last person in the house is getting ready to leave he now goes into his
kennel. We taught him the Kennel command, & now when we both go or the last
person is getting ready to leave he'll go in automatically. We don't use the
Kennel for punishment, so he doesn't relate the kennel with being punished.
He knows that he can't be trusted for long periods, & he goes in there
automatically. When we go for short periods he's in his kennel & if we
sneak up, he'll either be in his kennel, or laying in his bed by the door.

Just don't use the same Kennel for punishment as you use for locking him up
& he won't have a problem. Enjoy your new GSP, they are great animals.

Dan C

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Apr 9, 2003, 2:08:38 PM4/9/03
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I strongly agree with Greg. I went through the same anguish trying to
decide what to do with my Brittany (a VERY high-strung breed). As long
as I spend lots of time playing when I'm home and give her lots of
excercise she doesn't seem to mind it at all. After our normal morning
routine she happily trots into her crate and lays down--perfectly
comfortable being locked in for the day. When I get home she's excited
to see me but does not seem at all traumatized by her day in the
crate.

I think the invention and widespread adoption of the crate is one of
the best things to happen for dog owners (and the dogs!) since the
doggie biscuit.

Seer

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Apr 10, 2003, 1:37:44 PM4/10/03
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Lee,

I have never crated a dog, except for transport, in the 50 years I've been
training and raising championship hunting GWP's, GSP's and Setters. They always
have a run outside. GWP's are short ranging dogs but still need the exercise
when they are growing. On the other hand, GSP's are large ranging dogs and
require a lot more space. My personal opinion is that if you don't have the
space for a field dog, don't get one and cage it up (a lot worse than the zoo).

Stephen


Lee Sharp wrote:

> > I take him for at least three walks a day, he is free to roam the
> > house when I am home and we take hikes on the weekends. Just curious
> > if this is a nice life for a gsp.
>

> I crate my GWP's when I go out. I reckon that if they have had a good run
> then it is ok to leave them for up to four hours. Also, they should be in a
> crate big enough to stand up and turn around in.
>
> It sounds like you are giving your GSP a lovely home
>
> Claire (UK)
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Larry Caldwell

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Apr 11, 2003, 2:20:41 PM4/11/03
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ser...@IX.NETCOM.COM (Seer) writes:

> I have never crated a dog, except for transport, in the 50 years I've been
> training and raising championship hunting GWP's, GSP's and Setters. They always
> have a run outside. GWP's are short ranging dogs but still need the exercise
> when they are growing. On the other hand, GSP's are large ranging dogs and
> require a lot more space. My personal opinion is that if you don't have the
> space for a field dog, don't get one and cage it up (a lot worse than the zoo).

I have plenty of space for field dogs - 93 acres - but all my dogs are
crate trained. The crate has never been used as punishment, and they
always get a new chew when I crate them, so they don't mind it at all. I
leave the crates open when they are not occupied, and often I find dogs
going into their crates voluntarily. It's their safe space, where they
can get away from the other dogs and catch a nap.

I agree, however, that if you are going to leave the dog for long periods
of time they should have an outdoor run. 8 to 5 is 9 hours, plus commute
time can easily push confinement time to 11 hours a day. It is not kind
to crate a dog that long, no matter what the breed. They need to be out
where they can relieve themselves.

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Dan C

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Apr 15, 2003, 7:25:17 PM4/15/03
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If you have a well-fenced backyard I've heard of wonderful successes
with dog doors. This requires that the dog have a good temperment when
left alone so he doesn't dig his way out or bark all day long. If the
dog can't be trusted indoors you can "kennel off" an area on the
inside of the dog door.

I should point out that I've HEARD of this working well. I tried it
but it did not work for me because my dog would completely go crazy
when left outside when I left. The constant barking earned me some
unfriendly neighbors. I decided that I'd rather pur her through days
in the crate, which she seems fine with, than try to break her of the
barking with a no-bark collar or some similar method. I feel that this
is a personal decision that should be largely based on your particular
preference and dog's temperment. I think the most important thing is
lots of attention and exercise--which it sounds like your dog is
getting.

I should also point out that I have only had one dog so my experience
is limited. Oh, and the dog door was not a total failure, it's nice to
not have to get out of bed to let the dog out...

Brandon L. Walker

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Jul 18, 2003, 12:31:08 PM7/18/03
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I don't know what seems to be right or wrong here, I have two GSP's and they
run in the back yard all day but my yard suffers because they tear it to
shreds, Crating them seems to be the next best thing to buying them their
own back yard to destroy...

Suzanne Fielding

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Aug 28, 2003, 3:04:24 PM8/28/03
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I agree with Stephen, put the extra money into a run that allows the dog to
get his needed exercise. In addition if you crate your dog for more than
four hours during the day and then all night your dog with with out quest
have bladder problems.

Buck


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> Lee,


>
> I have never crated a dog, except for transport, in the 50 years I've been
> training and raising championship hunting GWP's, GSP's and Setters. They
always
> have a run outside. GWP's are short ranging dogs but still need the
exercise
> when they are growing. On the other hand, GSP's are large ranging dogs and
> require a lot more space. My personal opinion is that if you don't have
the
> space for a field dog, don't get one and cage it up (a lot worse than the
zoo).
>

> Stephen


>
>
> Lee Sharp wrote:
>
> > > I take him for at least three walks a day, he is free to roam the
> > > house when I am home and we take hikes on the weekends. Just curious
> > > if this is a nice life for a gsp.
> >

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