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John Boston

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Jan 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/4/97
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A friend has a Weim on order, and hopes to use it primarily for duck
hunting. I'd like to hear some opinions on how they handle the cold
water. I'm not setting anyone up for a flame, I honestly know almost
nothing about the breed, and am intrigued by the possibility of yet
another waterfowl dog.

Elena P Smith

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Jan 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/4/97
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Weims are not cut out for duck hunting because their coats are too short.
It is not kind to keep a shivering Weim wet and cold. However, longhair
Weims would probably love it!

Elena Smith

John Boston

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Jan 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/4/97
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William D. Radtke wrote:

> Do you know who the breeder is? What the bloodline? If I either you or your
> friend have any Weim questions please feel free to ask.

Unfortunately, I've found out now that this appears to be another one of
those "my friend has some good dogs and he swears they are full
Weimeraners...uh no...he doesn't have the papers" kind of deals. I am
praying for the best for this pup, but I'm afraid my friend is doomed
from the start. Apparently, he's just gotten in to duck hunting, and
considers himself a fanatic, so now he has to have a dog. The
Weimeraners happened to be local and cheap. I really do hope this turns
out OK, but I'm not optimistic.
The last friend that took this route bought a $150 so called Chocolate
Lab that is 2 yrs now, and can't even be let in the house due to his
spastic personallity. The dog can't even be petted without literally
sitting on his chest and holding him down. He can hardly swim, wont
fetch a stick, and looks more like a coon hound than a lab. I tried to
take him out with my Lab last season pheasant hunting, and he dove off a
15 foot cliff into a sewage pond and sank to the bottom. I had to think
twice about rescuing him...and now regret that I did.

William D. Radtke

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Jan 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/4/97
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Weims can make good wet dogs but it does depend on the line. I own two one
has a single coat and could never handle being wet and cold all day. He
spends his summers in the hot sun. When we had a spare car parked in the
yard he would bask on the roof. Our other dog Fritz has a double coat and
spends his summers under the deck, he just can't seem to be cool enough.
In general I would classify the breed as more upland than waterfowl. Do

you know who the breeder is? What the bloodline? If I either you or your
friend have any Weim questions please feel free to ask.

Sincerely,

Bill Radtke wdra...@rust.net
Southern Michigan Weimaraner Club

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Mark Beaven

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Jan 6, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/6/97
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Elena...


Good plug on the longhairs but come on, don't sell the shorthair variety
short..(no pun intended)..As I told John Boston, I had a great year duck
hunting and that's even up here in the great white north. I have hunted
my weims for 15 years and that includes waterfowling.

You have my support trying to get the longhairs accepted as equals but
lets not do it by cutting up the shorthaired ones.

Mark Beaven

Walter Tondu

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Jan 6, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/6/97
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I own a championship line weim which was purchased after many
months of searching for very good hunting lines. This year
(he's 1 yr 2mos) I decided to try him out duck hunting. To
my surprise he's very very good. He does shiver when the
air temps are 40 and below but I always keep warm blankets
in the boat for him to curl up into when waiting. If we do
well and he keeps busy then it's not a problem.

I had not expected him to be used for duck hunting but he
loves it and I'll continue.

Walter Tondu & Ooboo Lau

Mark Beaven

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Jan 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/7/97
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Good to hear about your success with your Weim.

Out of interest which breeder did you get him from?

Mark Beaven
Northern Lights Farms
Richmark Weimaraners

Mark Beaven

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Jan 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/7/97
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Mark Beaven

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Jan 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/7/97
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Good to hear about your success with your Weim.

Out of interest which breeder did you get him from?

Mark Beaven
Northern Lights Farms
Richmark Weimaraners

PS.. I kept getting a wrong address when I tried to email you.

Elena P Smith

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Jan 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/7/97
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I am not selling the shorthairs short...I KNOW they adore it and are good
at waterfowl work and will work as long as you will let them. BUT, they
do get too cold in the more frigid climates and one just has to consider
their comfort. I simply believe the obvious - a shorthair Weim is COLD
under such conditions, whereas the LH, Labs, Chessies are much more
adapted to these temperatures because of their coats. I am also
well aware that some owners will allow their Weims to shiver for hours in
a duck blind or boat. Chattering teeth may scare the ducks!

Elena

Walter Tondu

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Jan 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/8/97
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I purchased Ooboo from Ruth Nichols, Middleburg KY, 42541.
Her phone number is (606) 787-7766.

Mark Beaven (bea...@TCC.ON.CA) wrote:
: Good to hear about your success with your Weim.

: Out of interest which breeder did you get him from?

: Mark Beaven
: Northern Lights Farms
: Richmark Weimaraners

: Walter Tondu <xto...@NEWS.FHLB.COM> wrote:
: >I own a championship line weim which was purchased after many
: >months of searching for very good hunting lines. This year
: >(he's 1 yr 2mos) I decided to try him out duck hunting. To
: >my surprise he's very very good. He does shiver when the
: >air temps are 40 and below but I always keep warm blankets
: >in the boat for him to curl up into when waiting. If we do
: >well and he keeps busy then it's not a problem.
: >
: >I had not expected him to be used for duck hunting but he
: >loves it and I'll continue.
: >
: >Walter Tondu & Ooboo Lau

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Bruce Morrison

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Jan 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/8/97
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At 04:17 PM 1/8/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Why do dogs smell so bad?
>N
> Bad? Now that certainly is a relative term. Bruce

Nancy Dunlap

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Jan 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/8/97
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Elena P Smith

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Jan 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/8/97
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I wonder if your pup is out of our bitch owned by Ruth. She bought a
bitch pup out of my Field Champion some years ago. Who is your pup's dam
or grand dam? Are there any Silversmith dogs in the pedigree? My dogs
are retrieving and swimming fanatics!

Elena Smith

Mark Beaven

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Jan 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/9/97
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Nancy Dunlap <dun...@MAGPAGE.COM> wrote:
>Why do dogs smell so bad?
>N


Maybe yours do but mine don't!
M

Colgan, Gene

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Jan 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/9/97
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Ooboo was purchased from Ruth Nichols and is a bit over 1 year old?
What a small world, I believe I have a pup from the same litter. Heidi
was born late Sept, 1995. Don't have the pedigree here at work so I
can't answer Elena's question. We also got a pup from Ruth after
spending almost an entire year checking on lines, breeders etc., I went
with Ruth because three different sources around the country recommended
her.

We're extremely pleased with Heidi, she is 1/2 way through her first
quail season and is doing very well. She has a *huge* natural
retrieving drive (I don't force until after the first season of
pointing) and has the longest range of any Weimy I've ever hunted over,
she easily pops out a 1/4 - 1/2 mile plus in open country. (Yes I know
you pointer field trial nuts will consider that medium range but 1) I
hunt on foot and 2) that's pretty far-ranging for a Weimy and 3) the
"hot" field trial prospects I've shot over were worthless as personal
hunting companions on *wild* birds -flame shields up). When you're
hunting her you have to force her to rest, she will run hours and never
appear to be the least bit tired, the first couple of long hunts I
didn't realize how hard she was pushing it because she doesn't show it -
ran her too hard, she stiffened up in the box and would hardly move but
the next day she was ready to go first thing in the morning. She has
*gorgeous* style while running and a wonderful personality. She has
fantastic conformation, 2 different pro "show" people have initiated
inquiries about showing her on the strength of casual observation.

Ruth is producing some fantastic Weimy's - I'd recommend her pups to
anyone who wants a personal hunting companion. The only "complaint" I
have is the pup needs an *unbelievable* amount of exercise.

gene colgan gco...@is.arco.com
Weimaraners
Houston TX

Walter Tondu

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Jan 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/9/97
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Nancy Dunlap (dun...@MAGPAGE.COM) wrote:
: Why do dogs smell so bad?
: N

Keep them out of your lap.

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Scott Cole

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Jan 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/9/97
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>Nancy Dunlap <dun...@MAGPAGE.COM> wrote:
>>Why do dogs smell so bad?
>>N
>
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>Maybe yours do but mine don't!
>M
Same here, my Brittanies only stink if they get to roll in something dead
while we are out.

Scott Cole

Kevin Schlomas

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Jan 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/11/97
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Nancy Dunlap <dun...@MAGPAGE.COM> wrote:
>>Why do dogs smell so bad?

Actually, they smell much better than us. That's how they find all
those birds. (sorry)
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