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Handgunner

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Aug 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/3/00
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My wife and I are planning on getting a dog soon. My bro-in-law is a
breeder of labs and is (obviously) biased towards them. What I'm
interested in is a great family/neighborhood dog that I can hunt with.
Hunting will be mainly ducks and geese and will be done with a fervor in
season, but it will be a house dog the rest of the year. I've heard much
about the goldens being great 'family' dogs, but nobody around here seems to
use them much for ducks.

Any and all suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks,


Handgunner

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LabradrLvr

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I've got both- 4 labs, 3 goldens. From what I've exprienced they're both good
house dogs as well as hunters. I prefer labs because they're a little more
driven and respond to training better. Also, I do a lot of upland hunting and
believe labs are far superior (just my opinion here).
I have not found that either dog matures faster, is better around children,
or is truely a better dog at retrieving.
You might want to consider that goldens are not as cold tollerant as
labradors and they tend to pick up burrs.
Check out a few different breeders of both breeds. Find one that lives and
hunts with their dogs as you do. You don't want a super high energy dog (Labs
and goldens often have this problem) but you also don't want a big lump that
won't hunt for you.
Make sure your breeder OFA, CERF, and OFEL their stock for the maximum
protection that you'll be getting a healthy puppy (by no means is it a
guarentee!).
Good luck!

Stu West

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LabradrLvr wrote:

>
> Make sure your breeder OFA, CERF, and OFEL their stock for the maximum
> protection that you'll be getting a healthy puppy (by no means is it a
> guarentee!).
> Good luck!
>

You'll want OFA thyroid and OFA cardiac too.
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Chris Barnes

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"Handgunner" <handg...@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote

> My wife and I are planning on getting a dog soon. My bro-in-law is a
> breeder of labs and is (obviously) biased towards them. What I'm
> interested in is a great family/neighborhood dog that I can hunt with.
> Hunting will be mainly ducks and geese and will be done with a fervor in
> season, but it will be a house dog the rest of the year. I've heard
much
> about the goldens being great 'family' dogs, but nobody around here
seems to
> use them much for ducks.


Either Goldens or Labs would be excellent for both. In both cases, if you
are selective about getting a pup with a proven hunting background (which,
imho, is more than just the parents) as well as tempraments that you find
appealing, you can't go wrong with either. From there, you can base your
decision as to which breed based on your preferences in other areas (ie.
"do you prefer the long coat, or short coat", "which do you think looks
better", etc.).

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IFSteve

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Aug 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/3/00
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Both are fine. However, you can run into more goldens than labs that are less
tolerant of cold. I have hunted with around 10 labs of which all were family
dogs and good hunters of both waterfowl and uplands. I have only hunted with
two goldens that were both very good family dogs and hunters. But both of the
goldens were finished with ducks once it the water got below about 40.

If that's not an issue find a well bred dog in either but for my money I'd buy
a lab every time... better chance of success and at least I don't have to mess
with long hair and burrs.

Good luck,

Steve

Cj

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Most dogs have seasonal shedding but it seems to
me that my labs only shed once a year, from
January first to December 31... they drop hairs
every day... is that my imagination ?
Cj

Pintail930

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Aug 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/4/00
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From my experience our goldens been great. Ours is 4 1/2 years old now and it
was our first every hunting dog/first dog i've trained and i knew nothing about
training or even ducking at the time. We got him from a family that had no
history of hunting. We made sure he had a strong obedience background by
taking him to class. Now he goes after everything from dove to geese.
He's always has the drive and we hunt 3 times a week but he's been right with
us in the field since he was 6 months old. As for the cold, i'm from delaware
and have never had a problem. We put a jacket on him and he's fine to go all
day and we hunt straight through feb. and march for snow geese.
As for the longer hair, i prefer it to labs especially when they are shedding.
It seems the shorter lab hear gets all over everything in the house. but that
just a personal thing.

LabradrLvr

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>me that my labs only shed once a year, from
>January first to December 31... they drop hairs
>every day... is that my imagination ?

Ohh no...You are correct here! Labs as well as goldens, especially house
dogs, seem to shed quite a bit! I use a Zoom Groom brush and a shedding blade
on mine on a regular basis and it keeps it off my carpet.

Stu West

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Aug 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/4/00
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Julia, my british dam just dumped a full winter coat this last month.
Becca, her aunt, dumps in May.
etc
etc
The only thing for sure is they bulk up in the fall depending on the
environment, i.e. a Houston fall coat is greatly lighter than a Minneapolis
fall coat. Coat max's around January and February. After that it seems to
depend on the genetics of the line.
In labs at least.

Cj wrote:

> Most dogs have seasonal shedding but it seems to

> me that my labs only shed once a year, from
> January first to December 31... they drop hairs
> every day... is that my imagination ?

> Cj


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N4758 350th Street, Elmwood, WI 54740
(715) 639-3900 (715) 639-3933 fax
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Michigan Redneck

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Both are great dogs for the family and for hunting. Labs seem to take the
cold better and seem a bit more muscular for their size.

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what you think you know that's wrong.
"Handgunner" <handg...@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote in message
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: My wife and I are planning on getting a dog soon. My bro-in-law is a


: breeder of labs and is (obviously) biased towards them. What I'm
: interested in is a great family/neighborhood dog that I can hunt with.
: Hunting will be mainly ducks and geese and will be done with a fervor in
: season, but it will be a house dog the rest of the year. I've heard much
: about the goldens being great 'family' dogs, but nobody around here seems
to
: use them much for ducks.

:
: Any and all suggestions are appreciated.
:
: Thanks,
:
:
: Handgunner
:
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Michigan Redneck

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It is not your imagination. Mine do the same thing. The great thing is
that you don't have to bathe them since they replace their fur every ten
days. (I may be exaggerating here, but not by much.)

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"Cj" <cw...@IME.NET> wrote in message
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: Most dogs have seasonal shedding but it seems to


: me that my labs only shed once a year, from
: January first to December 31... they drop hairs
: every day... is that my imagination ?
: Cj

JTA

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Handgunner <handg...@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote in message
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> My wife and I are planning on getting a dog soon. My bro-in-law is a
> breeder of labs and is (obviously) biased towards them. What I'm
> interested in is a great family/neighborhood dog that I can hunt with.
> Hunting will be mainly ducks and geese and will be done with a fervor in
> season, but it will be a house dog the rest of the year. I've heard much
> about the goldens being great 'family' dogs, but nobody around here seems
to
> use them much for ducks.
>
> Any and all suggestions are appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Handgunner
>
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How about a Chesapeake Bay Retriever . They are great duck dogs
and with stand the cold pretty good.Of course not as popular as labs
and goldens.I wonder why, not that I have two.

ahb

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Aug 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/4/00
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For what it's worth...I have a young male lab. He is very high spirited,but
so loving. I know that his pedigree indicates field champions, but we only
hunt tennis balls in the Wortham Fountain . I know Labs are excellent gun
dogs and the heat in Houston seems not to bother him. Of course, I am not
running him yet because of his young age. His dispostion is so friendly: he
loves everyone.
I understand that both breeds chew a great deal as pups. Mine is no
exception.
I have friends with Goldens, but none of them use them for hunting.
Well, this is also a prejudiced point of view as I am a certified Lab NUT!

"Handgunner" <handg...@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote in message
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> My wife and I are planning on getting a dog soon. My bro-in-law is a
> breeder of labs and is (obviously) biased towards them. What I'm
> interested in is a great family/neighborhood dog that I can hunt with.
> Hunting will be mainly ducks and geese and will be done with a fervor in
> season, but it will be a house dog the rest of the year. I've heard much
> about the goldens being great 'family' dogs, but nobody around here seems
to
> use them much for ducks.
>
> Any and all suggestions are appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Handgunner
>
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mike presley

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Aug 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/5/00
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who can tell me how to get off the list. i don't have time to read all of this
lame bulls

Stu West

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Goodbye.

mike presley wrote:

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Stu West
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N4758 350th Street, Elmwood, WI 54740
(715) 639-3900 (715) 639-3933 fax
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Woo Woo Sister

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Aug 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/7/00
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Jeez, you have to vacuum anyway, whether the dog is shedding or not! At least
when they shed, you get some satisfaction out of seeing the carpet clean, for
about 2 minutes! : )

Steve Wagle

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Aug 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/7/00
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I just got back from spending the weekend in south central South Dakota
and saw lots of hens (as in dozens) with little ones along the highway
last evening on the way back.

It looks pretty good up there, but they need a bit of rain there right
now.

Steve Wagle, Bellevue, NE, USA

http://www.radiks.net/~swagle/gsp.html
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