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Michael Koloski

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May 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/12/97
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>
>In my experience, Viszlas are loving family dogs, but they come with some
>negatives. They tend to be hyperactive, overly excitable, and extremely
>slobbery.
>
Exsqueezeme!! Slobbery indeed!!!! My little Sunnydog is the most
wubable little lady. She gives nice kisses and does not slobber. You
must be thinking of some other crude breed. My little girl hunts to.
She points hungarian partridge and pheasants for her Daddy. We don't
call her hyper we calls her enthusiastic. Do you want a wittle rug dog
that goes to it's corner and lays there till lord and master calls it to his
side? Don't get a vizsula. They want to be people. They like to stick
close. But they don't slobber.

>> >
>> >They make excellent family pets. But if someone has the idea that the
>> family pet can also be his hunting dog keep looking. If you really want
>> one than make sure both its parents can hunt and I don't mean Junior
>> Hunters Make sure that they can hunt. Don't buy one untill it is three
>or
>> four months old and turn it loose on a pigeon and see if it will run it
>> down and kill it with vigor and recless abandon. If it doesn't do that
>> than it isn't worth feeding.
>>
Exsqueezeme again. This must be a pointer or setter man speaking.
Nuttin' but nuttin can keep us with those dudes. But our little vizsula
can hunt. She does just fine. And then she comes home a sweeps on
our bed. She's a lady.>
>Mike, Linda and Lady's Sunrise Seeker (Sunny)

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Mike & Betsy Jones

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May 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/12/97
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>Wrong just a bunch of beat up old brittanys that love to hunt and run the
house.

Mark Pfeifer

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May 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/14/97
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How about "Vizsla".
And like most pointing breeds they are expected to cover alot of ground in
a hurry so many, especially the good ones, don't "idle". Like a 3/4 cam in
a hot rod.

Robert Martin

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May 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/19/97
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I've been following this thread with interest. I'm an inveterate
wildfowler and grouse hunter, and I've been working at it for almost 50
years. My current hunting partner is a wonderful lady of 12+ years, and
she's having some health problems. I'm starting to look for a puppy, and
since she will probably be my last partner, I've done quite a bit of basic
research.

My parents kept hunting dogs, my uncle and a cousin spent most of their
life on the field trial circuit, and I've spent far too much of my
allotted time on this earth throwing dummies <g>. As a young child, my
parents gave me a Chessie, and 10 years later, a Lab. My sons started
young with a Newfie, and later a Britt and a Beagle. And I've spent
uncounted hours over the years, trying to convince my own hyperactive
Britts, who were bred in Oklahoma to pretend they were pointers, to hunt
like Gordon Setters in heavy Minnesota brush...

I'm looking for a pup with moderate energy, minimal aggressive tendencies,
high trainability, and a measure of playfulness. I'm looking for a Britt
with a sense of humor, or - alternately - a Golden Retriever with pointing
tendencies. I'm looking for a partner that can help me out during the
earliest days of the duck season, and then hunt close for those pa'tridge
in the brush. And all the animal behavior experts say I should be
checking out those Vizslas from Ungarn...

I'm not too worried about the slobbering. I maintain that people who
haven't had actual experience with Newfies (or St. Bernards) don't really
know what a "wet mouth" is <g>. And God forbid, that I ever get another
pup from a frustrated Oklahoma field trialer, who is trying to develop an
"improved" pointer line...

I do, however, insist that the puppy maintain civil relations with my
current partner, who - God willing - will be an active family member for
a few more years. I also hope that the puppy, who will have the run of
the house, will mirror the non-destructive behavior touted by the
animal behaviorists, as typical of the Vizsla breed.

If my understanding of the breed is unbelievably irrational, I'd
certainly like to know...

bob

Jenny Peacocke

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May 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/20/97
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On Mon, 19 May 1997 00:25:22 +0000 (GMT), you wrote:

:I'm not too worried about the slobbering. I maintain that people who


:haven't had actual experience with Newfies (or St. Bernards) don't really
:know what a "wet mouth" is <g>. And God forbid, that I ever get another
:pup from a frustrated Oklahoma field trialer, who is trying to develop an
:"improved" pointer line...

Vizslas DO NOT slobber - they mouth! This is a major difference. Of
course, like ALL breeds, some Vizslas slobber (about 1 in 100
maximum). But being like most retrieving dogs they like to have
something in their mouth .... and most often it is your hand.

Read our newzsletters (http://trader.tierranet.com/vizsla/) or check
out the Ingle & Mead Vizsla page (http://www.vizsladogs.com/) and, if
you get more serious, join the Vizsla mailing list and ask people who
really know the breed for information. They are honest about both good
and bad points as a rule.

:I do, however, insist that the puppy maintain civil relations with my


:current partner, who - God willing - will be an active family member for
:a few more years. I also hope that the puppy, who will have the run of
:the house, will mirror the non-destructive behavior touted by the
:animal behaviorists, as typical of the Vizsla breed.

Vizsla pups can be destructive and non destructive ... usually
depending on training, boredom levels etc. They are high energy and
high intelligence so do need to be given an outlet. But an exercised
Vizsla (in mind as well as body) is usually a good house dog - I have
four inside at this moment ranging from 6 months to 6 years. They also
do get on with other dogs much better than many breeds I have come
across (I instruct obedience and agility so do see MANY breeds and X
breeds).

O.K. many of these hunters say the V is too soft. The V DOES need lots
of attention (love) and does not work well as an outside kenneled dog.
Any reading of their history shows that they have been SUCCESSFULLY
bred to work hard all day as a HPR (Hunt, Point, Retrieve) versatile
dog on BOTH feather and fur. Then at the end of the day the Hungarians
went home. All went inside (dogs too) and the family relaxed - the
dogs were treated as a much loved part of the family. The Vizsla
truely does go from a soft water bed to intense hunting without a
qualm! But many other breed owners seem to feel that you cannot have
that closeness and softness at home and still have a good working dog.
They are wrong.

As with any breed you need to check your lines and make sure that your
pup comes from a good working background. All breeds seem to have some
lines that have been carelessly bred by people who do not care about
the WHY of the dog. However there are plenty of good working lines for
those who care to look.


Jenny - tra...@wave.co.nz
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Don Pobiak

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Jun 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/3/97
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In article <1997051301...@ednet1.orednet.org>,
mkol...@OREDNET.ORG says...

> Exsqueezeme!! Slobbery indeed!!!! My little Sunnydog is the most
> wubable little lady. She gives nice kisses and does not slobber.
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> And then she comes home a sweeps on our bed. She's a lady.
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This is *obviously* a vizlsa owner!

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