Help please?
Henriette Kress
get them uncompressed.
How do I do that using the usual run-of-the-mill unix ftp program, on
the fly, when downloading? I've tried lots.
mget *.Z yyyyyyy^C works, sure, but I have yet to find out how to
uncompress them once they sit in my home directory. And I -know- you can
get them without that pesky .Z at the end, all readable and ready to go.
Alternatively, how do I do that using either WS-FTP95 LE (Win98) or
Teraterm Pro (Win98)?
Alternatively, is there a program that unzips (or whatever) *.Z'ed
files? What program -does- that anyway?
The idea of getting them using a web browser, in single file (heh),
without that .Z, -truly- doesn't appeal to me. That'd sort of defeat the
whole purpose of ftp, eh?
Cheers
Hetta (man ftp. man gunzip. man tar. man help. man /?. man DAMMIT! ...
funny, I don't think I'll be migrating over to linux anytime soon.)
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Al Sharka
>
> Alternatively, is there a program that unzips (or whatever) *.Z'ed
> files? What program -does- that anyway?
WinZip handles tarfiles and compressed files. I don't know if it
handles gzip.
Garth Dighton
<2ulg7toalngr2cd25...@4ax.com>:
>Okay, so there's this large archive of *.Z compressed files, and I can't
>get them uncompressed.
>
>How do I do that using the usual run-of-the-mill unix ftp program, on
>the fly, when downloading? I've tried lots.
>
>mget *.Z yyyyyyy^C works, sure, but I have yet to find out how to
>uncompress them once they sit in my home directory. And I -know- you can
>get them without that pesky .Z at the end, all readable and ready to go.
>
>Alternatively, how do I do that using either WS-FTP95 LE (Win98) or
>Teraterm Pro (Win98)?
>
>Alternatively, is there a program that unzips (or whatever) *.Z'ed
>files? What program -does- that anyway?
>
>The idea of getting them using a web browser, in single file (heh),
>without that .Z, -truly- doesn't appeal to me. That'd sort of defeat the
>whole purpose of ftp, eh?
>
>Cheers
>Hetta (man ftp. man gunzip. man tar. man help. man /?. man DAMMIT! ...
>funny, I don't think I'll be migrating over to linux anytime soon.)
>
.Z files are compressed by the standard UNIX compress utility. I don't know
of any way to uncompress them during download, but once their in your home
directory, you can use:
% uncompress *.Z
However, gunzip handles Unix uncompress as well as the gnu compression, and
it's faster, so that's what I usually use:
% gunzip *.Z
In Windows, Winzip will handle *.Z files.
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Screwtape
As mentioned by Comrade Garth, WinZip *does* do .gz (gzip) files. As
yet, I suspect it doesn't handle .bz2. Meanwhile WinRAR
(www.rarsoft.com, or .de, I can't recall) is busily cloning all the
good WinZip features, plus the ability to handle RAR files, which have
higher compression than .zip. Unfortunately, RAR files don't have a
free alternative implementation for use by Linux zealots.
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Sid
he...@saunalahti.fi wrote:
> Cheers
> Hetta (man ftp. man gunzip. man tar. man help. man /?. man DAMMIT! ...
> funny, I don't think I'll be migrating over to linux anytime soon.)
If you hate linux (although I don't see a reason to), try winzip.
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Henriette Kress
>.Z files are compressed by the standard UNIX compress utility. I don't know
>of any way to uncompress them during download,
If the server is set up for it, and they usually are, requesting the
file -without- the .Z does the trick.
Only, I haven't figured out how to request multiple files so they arrive
without it.
>In Windows, Winzip will handle *.Z files.
Thanks, I'll go get that then.
Cheers
Hetta (NS, IE -and- opera. pkunzip, stuffit, -and- winzip. Furrfu.)
Screwtape
>Cheers
>Hetta (NS, IE -and- opera. pkunzip, stuffit, -and- winzip. Furrfu.)
Teehee - for browser compatibility testing, NS4, IE, Opera, for
standards compatibility testing Mozilla too. :)
pkzip, stuffit, and winzip all have their own advantages. pkzip works
in DOS, and has the highest compression for .ZIP files, WinZip (and I
assume StuffIt) use a lower-quality version of ZIP compression.
StuffIt will handle .sit files, which nothing else will, and WinZip is
just generally the best intergrated to the Win95 shell - oh, and it
does .tar.gz, which pkzip doesn't, and StuffIt *might*.
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TimC
>mget *.Z yyyyyyy^C works, sure, but I have yet to find out how to
>uncompress them once they sit in my home directory. And I -know- you can
>get them without that pesky .Z at the end, all readable and ready to go.
to keep pressing y, do a 'prompt'
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pieceoftheuniverse
>Henriette Kress schrieb:
>>Cheers
>>Hetta (NS, IE -and- opera. pkunzip, stuffit, -and- winzip. Furrfu.)
>
>Teehee - for browser compatibility testing, NS4, IE, Opera, for
>standards compatibility testing Mozilla too. :)
>
>pkzip, stuffit, and winzip all have their own advantages. pkzip works
>in DOS, and has the highest compression for .ZIP files, WinZip (and I
>assume StuffIt) use a lower-quality version of ZIP compression.
>StuffIt will handle .sit files, which nothing else will, and WinZip is
>just generally the best intergrated to the Win95 shell - oh, and it
>does .tar.gz, which pkzip doesn't, and StuffIt *might*.
Great. Now I've got to add this to my list.
What's that? You want to see what else is on there? Well, here it is:
(in no particular order)
- write a browser that actually conforms to the W3C, or at least HTML 4
- write an image editor that can read and write in all available
formats (including, but not limited to: png, gif, pict, jpeg...)
- write a compression utility that can read and write in all available
formats (including, but not limited to: zip, sit, sea, tar.gz...)
- write a bare-bones OS. Attempt to make it compatible with everything
else out there. Would prefer if it actually fit on a 1.44 disk
(remember those days?)
- write a more-or-less complete script of five to seven years for an
online comic I've been thinking about
- finally finish writing those three stories that have been hovering
over me for the past three years
- write a newsreader with the capabilities of Agent and a couple other
favourites
- register the domain name I actually -want-
- update the site on a regular basis
- make millions of dollars, any way I can (this one's optional)
- learn java
- learn how to manipulate that cgi-bin to do my bidding
- learn how to write programs. Again. Preferably in C++ this time
rather than, as last time, COBOL
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the bottom up.
Otis Viles
(TimC) wrote:
>BTW, make sure you do a 'binary' before the mget of course, and so you dont have
>to keep pressing y, do a 'prompt'
And "hash" to get output showing the rate of download so you know if it
stalled or not.
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Robot Karate Man
teeth:
>Okay, so there's this large archive of *.Z compressed files, and I can't
>get them uncompressed.
Ok, so I'm a day late on this thread, but anyways... I have the entire
Oracle archive (if this is, indeed, what you're referring to), in Windows-
friendly DOC formats minus the .Z. If you'd like, i'll put them in a run-
of-the-mill ZIP file and send 'em to you.
~Steve-o
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Gordol
said:
; Okay, so there's this large archive of *.Z compressed files, and I can't
; get them uncompressed.
;
; How do I do that using the usual run-of-the-mill unix ftp program, on
; the fly, when downloading? I've tried lots.
On the UNIX side, gunzip will uncompress it.
; Alternatively, how do I do that using either WS-FTP95 LE (Win98) or
; Teraterm Pro (Win98)?
On the Windows side, WinZip will uncompress it. WinZip can also un-TAR
things.
; Alternatively, is there a program that unzips (or whatever) *.Z'ed
; files? What program -does- that anyway?
See above.
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"I can't breathe." "It's all right. Try to calm your mind. Focus.
All life forms are connected. Look for the path... look for the
path." "I see it." 'It is the power that binds us. One to another
across the darkness of space." (Cmdr. Ivonova and Draal, B5 "Voices
Of Authority")
Gordol
; - write a bare-bones OS. Attempt to make it compatible with everything
; else out there. Would prefer if it actually fit on a 1.44 disk
; (remember those days?)
http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20010112&mode=
It actually starts a few days before that, and continues through this
week.
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The World does not necessarily agree with my opinions.
"I've given up something that really mattered to me, the uniform and
everything that goes with it." (Capt. Sheridan, B5 "Ceremonies Of
Light And Dark")
Lane Gray, Czar Castic
waeffer theen" and then stuffed this morsel into the mouth of rhod:
> Henriette Kress schrieb:
> >Cheers
> >Hetta (NS, IE -and- opera. pkunzip, stuffit, -and- winzip. Furrfu.)
>
> Teehee - for browser compatibility testing, NS4, IE, Opera, for
> standards compatibility testing Mozilla too. :)
>
> pkzip, stuffit, and winzip all have their own advantages. pkzip works
> in DOS, and has the highest compression for .ZIP files, WinZip (and I
> assume StuffIt) use a lower-quality version of ZIP compression.
> StuffIt will handle .sit files, which nothing else will, and WinZip is
> just generally the best intergrated to the Win95 shell - oh, and it
> does .tar.gz, which pkzip doesn't, and StuffIt *might*.
Is there a way to disable those fscking wizards with winzip? I am
rather partial to PKware, and find the idgit-friendly interface of
Winzip entirely infuriating, just like the wizards of the Works that
comes with Win98. WTF is wrong with a word processor just giving you a
fscking blank sheet to start with? I may not have the time (well, I
could give up rhod, the shed and Marbles for awhile I suppose) to learn
a new OS and stuff (I am still thinking about getting a Linux emulator
as a transition tool, any good ones out there?) but learning a program
ain't that aDnm difficult, yanno?
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Funny, I don't remember being absent-minded . . .
Jason Willoughby
> Is there a way to disable those fscking wizards with winzip? I am
> rather partial to PKware, and find the idgit-friendly interface of
> Winzip entirely infuriating,
Somewhere in the options is the Winzip "Classic" interface, turn it
on. I always do that during install.
> just like the wizards of the Works that comes with Win98. WTF is
> wrong with a word processor just giving you a fscking blank sheet to
> start with?
Try right-clicking in a folder (or on the desktop), and selecting
New->Word Document. I'm kinda sure that will work...
Gordol
Castic said:
; Is there a way to disable those fscking wizards with winzip? I am
Yeah, set it to use the "classic interface". Should be in the
"Miscellaneous" section of the settings.
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The World does not necessarily agree with my opinions.
"You see, some people have an evil twin. I'm not so lucky. What +I+
have is an _idiot_ twin." (Miles Vorkosigan [Lois McMaster Bujold,
"Mirror Dance"])
Screwtape
>Is there a way to disable those fscking wizards with winzip? I am
>rather partial to PKware, and find the idgit-friendly interface of
>Winzip entirely infuriating, just like the wizards of the Works that
>comes with Win98.
<snip>
As someone said, the WinZip Wizard is entirely optional - somewhere in
the Wizard interface should be a check-box for "use WinZip Classic
next time" - check that, and All Will Be Well.
Mind you, I hardly ever actually start WinZip these days - compress
files by selecting them, right click, "Add to zipfile"; extract them
by right-clicking on the zipfile and choosing "Extract to..". If
you're worried that by not using the actual program you won't manage
to get the highest possible compression ratio, you shouldn't be using
WinZip - it's not actually all that good at compressing.
>(I am still thinking about getting a Linux emulator as a transition
>tool, any good ones out there?)
Linux *emulator*??
Best solution - grab the ol' P100 from the cupboard, bung it on that.
Second best solution - possibly something like www.phatlinux.com
or http://pygmy.penguin.cz/ which installs Linux onto your DOS drive.
Third best solution - www.vmware.com, which is rather nastily
expensive, but lets you run Windows and Linux simultaneously.
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> - write an image editor that can read and write in all available
> formats (including, but not limited to: png, gif, pict, jpeg...)
Weren't you the one evangelizing about GraphicConverter a while back?
That opens stuff I've never even heard of. Apparently the new version
opens stuff the *designers* have never even heard of.
> - write a more-or-less complete script of five to seven years for an
> online comic I've been thinking about
>
> - finally finish writing those three stories that have been hovering
> over me for the past three years
Turn both of 'em into a web serial. Things get written *much* faster
that way.
JIM, especially Sunday nights...
Screwtape
>Comrade pieceoftheuniverse wrote:
>> - write an image editor that can read and write in all available
>> formats (including, but not limited to: png, gif, pict, jpeg...)
>
>Weren't you the one evangelizing about GraphicConverter a while back?
>That opens stuff I've never even heard of. Apparently the new version
>opens stuff the *designers* have never even heard of.
"GraphicConverter is extremely embarrassed to admit it doesn't
understand the fileformat of this file. Please try another."
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Lane Gray, Czar Castic
waeffer theen" and then stuffed this morsel into the mouth of rhod:
>
> >tool, any good ones out there?)
>
> Linux *emulator*??
>
> Best solution - grab the ol' P100 from the cupboard, bung it on that.
> Second best solution - possibly something like www.phatlinux.com
> or http://pygmy.penguin.cz/ which installs Linux onto your DOS drive.
> Third best solution - www.vmware.com, which is rather nastily
> expensive, but lets you run Windows and Linux simultaneously.
Yes, Linux Emulator. I first learned about it right here. There were a
few, but the one that got mentioned was "WinLinux" which was a $25.00
(or was it $50? it doesn't matter to me enough to look it up, even with
a cablemodem) shareware. That's right, for $25.00, you can get the ease
of use of Linux with the stability of Winders. When I mentioned that I
was thinking about it, someone here mentioned that Dragonlinux would do
the same job for freeware.
Your best solution won't quite work because our last machine has a blown
motherboard. The Phatlinux or pygmy sounds intriguing, but the emulator
still has my eye, because you don't need to close the crap you are
actually used to and reboot the machine. The vmware strikes me as not
bad, but isn't that basically the same thing in reverse? The website
says "Introduced in May 2000, VMware Express allows users to run either
Microsoft Windows 95 or Windows 98 in a virtual machine on a Linux
system, gaining full access to all of their favorite Windows
applications while simultaneously running Linux. "
Is that an actual windows, or an emulation under Linux? Of course, that
is $79 download, or $99 in a box.
Screwtape
>Just before ducking for cover, Screwtape said, "please sir, it's only
>waeffer theen" and then stuffed this morsel into the mouth of rhod:
>> Lane Gray, Czar Castic schrieb:
>>
>> >(I am still thinking about getting a Linux emulator as a transition
>> >tool, any good ones out there?)
>>
>> Linux *emulator*??
>>
>> Best solution - grab the ol' P100 from the cupboard, bung it on that.
>> Second best solution - possibly something like www.phatlinux.com
>> or http://pygmy.penguin.cz/ which installs Linux onto your DOS drive.
>> Third best solution - www.vmware.com, which is rather nastily
>> expensive, but lets you run Windows and Linux simultaneously.
>
>Yes, Linux Emulator. I first learned about it right here. There were a
>few, but the one that got mentioned was "WinLinux" which was a $25.00
>(or was it $50? it doesn't matter to me enough to look it up, even with
>a cablemodem) shareware.
Shareware? Not from reading the website.
>That's right, for $25.00, you can get the ease of use of Linux with
>the stability of Winders.
If you want to buy the CD (which they're obviously hoping you will).
If you can handle a 215MB download, feel free. Mebbe give 'em a
donation.
Also, I don't believe it runs *concurrently* with Windows - AFAICS, it
reboots your PC into "Linux mode", then reboots back into Windows. The
advantage being that it will live on a Windows partition, rather than
needing its own special partition.
>When I mentioned that I was thinking about it, someone here mentioned
>that Dragonlinux would do the same job for freeware.
I did find Dragonlinux, but the Dragonlinux website contained "You do
not have permission to read the following directory on this
webserver: /"
>Your best solution won't quite work because our last machine has a blown
>motherboard.
Fair enough. Not everyone has old PCs lying around the place.
>The Phatlinux or pygmy sounds intriguing, but the emulator
>still has my eye, because you don't need to close the crap you are
>actually used to and reboot the machine.
I can't see that actually spelled out anywhere on the website. Linux
and Windows, both being 32-bit operating systems, generally assume
they have Almighty Control of the CPU and RAM, and Bad Things would
happen if they both tried to do things simulataneously. You can't run
two operating systems concurrently without extensive modifications to
either or both, or special software buffering one from the other
(read: vmware, or possibly www.plex86.org if it's ever ported to
Windows).
>The vmware strikes me as not bad, but isn't that basically the same
>thing in reverse? The website says "Introduced in May 2000, VMware
>Express allows users to run either Microsoft Windows 95 or Windows 98
>in a virtual machine on a Linux system, gaining full access to all of
>their favorite Windows applications while simultaneously running
>Linux." Is that an actual windows, or an emulation under Linux? Of
>course, that is $79 download, or $99 in a box.
You can get vmware for Windows or for Linux, and its basic mode of
operation is.. well, have you played with VirtualPC on the Macintosh?
vmware emulates an entire PC, so you can install whatever you like
inside - Windows, Linux, QNX, OS/2, FreeBSD, DOS, whatever.
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Donald Welsh
wrote:
>Lane Gray, Czar Castic schrieb:
>>The Phatlinux or pygmy sounds intriguing, but the emulator
>>still has my eye, because you don't need to close the crap you are
>>actually used to and reboot the machine.
>I can't see that actually spelled out anywhere on the website. Linux
>and Windows, both being 32-bit operating systems, generally assume
>they have Almighty Control of the CPU and RAM, and Bad Things would
>happen if they both tried to do things simulataneously. You can't run
>two operating systems concurrently without extensive modifications to
>either or both, or special software buffering one from the other
>(read: vmware, or possibly www.plex86.org if it's ever ported to
>Windows).
Which, of course, is what virtual machine software is for: to lie to
the operating system. "Yes, you're a big, stwong OS, you have Almighty
Control." Then the VM gets a call on its cell phone, puts the OS to
sleep, goes to a party in another apartment, comes back, wakes up the
OS, and continues the illusion. "Yes, you're the only OS for me."
The VM does this all the time, and the OS is none the wiser.
If she's really good, she can do this to several OSes at once [1], which
is why the VM has a fast car and fancy shoes. [2]
[1] As long as they live in separate apartments and don't check their
watches too obsessively.
[2] Because she's really the OS and to her, the OS is an application.
pieceoftheuniverse
>Comrade pieceoftheuniverse wrote:
>
>> - write an image editor that can read and write in all available
>> formats (including, but not limited to: png, gif, pict, jpeg...)
>
>Weren't you the one evangelizing about GraphicConverter a while back?
>That opens stuff I've never even heard of. Apparently the new version
>opens stuff the *designers* have never even heard of.
That was me, but even GraphicConverter has its limits (AOL format is a
mystery to it, and forget about sneaking a peak at .pdfs). I've yet to
download the newest version, however, so maybe I'll be spared that
particular trial of my new-yet-to-be-found abilities.
>> - write a more-or-less complete script of five to seven years for an
>> online comic I've been thinking about
>>
>> - finally finish writing those three stories that have been hovering
>> over me for the past three years
>
>Turn both of 'em into a web serial. Things get written *much* faster
>that way.
>
> JIM, especially Sunday nights...
I'm tempted to do just that. But rather than expend all of my genius
(for extremely low values of "genius") in an all-nighter (for extremely
high values of "night," some involving two weeks), I have come to
realize the true value in being prepared. That is, having the material
all ready, laid out, and set up to go on my mark, so all I have to do on
Sunday night is hit the "transmit" button on my FTP utility -- or,
assuming I learn how, set up the page to update itself.
What this means, though, is a terribly long set-up time. Still, the
end-user won't really notice all that much of a difference: it'll still
be the same ridiculous jokes, identical absurd situations, and similar
deus ex machinas. The only really big difference is that instead of a
two-week block of time between episodes (*ahem*) ;), there'll be a
more-or-less day-by-day progression.
In theory, that is. Sketching out a seven-year story arc is a bit
harder than I thought it would be. In the meantime, though, I have my
utopian dreamland.
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real world, you'll be able to hear the shattering of ideals as they hit
the sharp pointy rocks for miles around.
Gordol
suddenly blurted out for all to hear:
; In theory, that is. Sketching out a seven-year story arc is a bit
; harder than I thought it would be. In the meantime, though, I have my
; utopian dreamland.
Just ask JMS about his 5 year story arc...
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The World does not necessarily agree with my opinions.
"No dictator, no invader, can hold an imprisoned population by force
of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the
need for freedom." (G'Kar, B5 "The Long Twilight Struggle")
pieceoftheuniverse
>Remembering that the key was found a half hour ago, pieceoftheuniverse
>suddenly blurted out for all to hear:
>
>; In theory, that is. Sketching out a seven-year story arc is a bit
>; harder than I thought it would be. In the meantime, though, I have my
>; utopian dreamland.
>
>Just ask JMS about his 5 year story arc...=20
That "=20" scares me, Jeff. Slowly turning into a MIME before our very
eyes? Quick, someone get the pastrami!
As to the story arc: JMS is where I got the idea in the first place.
Well, that, and comic series pretty much usually go in a
semi-sorta-kinda story arc-type thingy, anyway. I just wanted to make
mine completely unlike Star Trek, in that it doesn't have the fans [1]
scratching their heads and saying "Hey, wait a minute. Wasn't he..."
and so on. You'll notice there are few (immediately noticable)
contradictions in B5; this is what I strive for.
It's a touch harder than it looks, and it appears as if I'll be eating
my hat if it turns out I can't top the miriad of ST writers, especially
since all I'm really asking me to do is to stay true to my own stuff.
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[1] Ego or what, eh? The dang thing's not even fully written yet, and
still I expect to have fans coming out the ears, not to mention
critiquing me in a more-or-less friendly manner. What'll I want next;
my own newsgroup?
Gordol
; rec.humor.oracle.d is indeed a crazy place, and Gordol proves it:
Glad to be of service.
; >Remembering that the key was found a half hour ago, pieceoftheuniverse
; >suddenly blurted out for all to hear:
; >
; >; In theory, that is. Sketching out a seven-year story arc is a bit
; >; harder than I thought it would be. In the meantime, though, I have my
; >; utopian dreamland.
; >
; >Just ask JMS about his 5 year story arc...=20
;
; That "=20" scares me, Jeff. Slowly turning into a MIME before our very
Where'd THAT come from? I am not set to use quoted-printable. Though
Agent will use it if needed, there ain't nothin' in my post that could
not be done with plain old fashioned ASCII.
; eyes? Quick, someone get the pastrami!
Yuck, I hate pastrami, more than corned beef.
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The World does not necessarily agree with my opinions.
"You cannot build an empire based on slaughter and deceit!" (Urza
Jado, B5 "Knives")
pieceoftheuniverse
>; Quick, someone get the pastrami!
>
>Yuck, I hate pastrami, more than corned beef.
>
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>gor...@gordol.org <*> I'm set up for PGP. Are you?
> The World does not necessarily agree with my opinions.
>
>"You cannot build an empire based on slaughter and deceit!" (Urza
>Jado, B5 "Knives")
s/slaughter and deceit/bread and lunch meat
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TechnoAtheist
really proud monkeys claiming to be Jim Evans
<jev...@physics.uottawa.ca> wrote:
>Comrade pieceoftheuniverse walked the Caves of Ice:
>> The mighty Jim Evans from a stately dome did decree:
>> >Comrade pieceoftheuniverse wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have come to realize the true value in being prepared.
>> >
>> >Like the Boy Scouts of Olde!
>>
>> I was a Boy Scout once. Granted, I only lasted two weeks, but it was
>> fun nevertheless.
>
>I never made it past Beavers (ooh, you lot!). Apparently I was too antisocial.
Eh, could be worse. You could have been an American scout. Just image
the kind of thrill one gets being in a large scout meeting when they
do the cheer!
Eagles!
Scouts!
We-Blow!
Cubs!
Doesn't exactly foster a great deal of self respect for the post cub,
pre scout group...
>> >At least for me, RKM seems to do about 1-2 weeks of comics
>> >per episode. But we all know I'm long winded.
>>
>> And HG would be about a month per, especially for those greater-than
>> ten-pagers.
>
>Precisely as I say. And if it's only a MWF comic then one episode can
>set one up for even longer.
>
Ah, so you have read Freefall, then.
On the other side there's always WIGU, which manages to take long
complicated story lines and do them in two strips.
Have I mentioned how jealous I am of the both of you. I've continually
put off The Greyhound because I just can't figure out a good villan.
pieceoftheuniverse
>Comrade pieceoftheuniverse walked the Caves of Ice:
>> The mighty Jim Evans from a stately dome did decree:
>> >Comrade pieceoftheuniverse wrote:
I'm going to leave the two lines above just as they are. A true example
of how selective editing can do wonders for context.
<snip a little bit>
>"Quality", like cheap, is a relative term.
Ooo, neat. That does put a new spin on the twins-in-rocket-ships
analogy, doesn't it?
"If Twin A is launched in a quality rocket ship, and Twin B is left on a
relatively stationary but extraordinarily cheap space station..."
>> But I know me. If I let me slack,
>> I'll be there every Sunday night, trying to piece something vaguely
>> coherent together in time to throw it onstage when the midnight hour
>> strikes.
>
>Oh, its the incoherent stuff that's the best. A la "space walrus with
>photon flippers or something".
"Vaguely coherent" is, just to give you an example, the type of stuff I
post to rhod & afda. You don't want to know what the deviated synapses
of my mind come up with on my truly odd days, nor do you want to know
how often I hit the "cancel" button rather than the "send" because I've
realized just in time that I'm not really making any sense.
My completely incoherent state is -- well, it's just got to be seen to
be believed. Look at the description of N's pocket universe I
schriebed, and then take into consideration that I wasn't so much
imagining it as describing what I -saw-.
So you can imagine my surprise that any of my Oracle incarnations get
digested at all.
>> >> I have come to realize the true value in being prepared.
>> >Like the Boy Scouts of Olde!
>> I was a Boy Scout once. Granted, I only lasted two weeks, but it was
>> fun nevertheless.
>I never made it past Beavers (ooh, you lot!). Apparently I was too antisocial.
Well, technically, I believe the term for my group was "Lobos." I
remember something about it being a sort of animal, but I could never
find it in the encyclopedia.
<snip a little more>
>> Say, create two months or so of comics and
>> -then- announce to the world that I'm ready to go.
>
>Ideally that is the way to go. I'm still working off mostly pre-written stuff.
*THWAP* If that's true, then why delay the episodes by two weeks?
I realize what you mean, though. You have the barest
scratchings/sketches of the episodes laid out, which you then sit down
and actually go about the whole writing process. While that's a good
technique, that won't work for me.
After twenty-odd years or so, I've begun to figure out how my mind works
[1]. If I do an outline, my brane thinks "Oh, great! Now that it's out
on paper, I don't have to think about that anymore. Whew, what a
relief!" At which point, I completely forget about it and move on to
other things. In order to make myself actually -do- something, I've got
to construct rough drafts, piece things together slowly, and eventually
come out with a finished product. And above all, I must ensure that the
final touches aren't added until the very last moment, at which point I
really will be done with it all, and can forget it by the next day with
no worries.
Bare sketchings aren't going to cut it. I need a ream of archived
comics, sitting, primed, and ready to be unleashed.
>> Then, even if I've
>> got a major case of muse rebellion I can still let the show go on for a
>> while. Once the President issues his decree to end the strike, that's
>> when I really dig in and attempt to re-build the buffer.
>
>Knowing your muse, I'd hate to be the one to enforce the back-to-work order.
There's the puzzler. Maybe I should ask the Oracle.
<snip, parse, snip>
>> Hmmm. Ever consider turning HG into a comic series?
>
>That would be the ideal formoat, of course. I've had ideas for so many
>site gags that are just impossible to do written. But, I can't even draw
>a stick figure, so that's out.
>And when it comes to HG I'm such a control freak an illustrator would
>probably kill me.
Speaking of Illustrator -- you weren't, but I'm pretending -- the way
I'm going about comic art is on the computer. I don't have a scanner,
so even if I -could- manage anything decent I wouldn't be able to get it
on the screen. There are plenty of programs out there that look like
they have possibilities, especially seeing as how I can't hold a mouse
any better than a pencil.
The same sort of programs might do well for you.
<a little big snip>
>> >> as soon as the dreamland hits the
>> >> real world, you'll be able to hear the shattering of ideals as they
>> >> hit the sharp pointy rocks for miles around.
>> >
>> >They sound like crunching granola!
>> > JIM, mmm, and taste like marshmellows
>>
>> ideal s'mores! Who's got the chocolate?
>
>By the ontological argument, ideal s'more would have to exist, since
>non-existance would spoil their ideality.
>
>Who's ever hiding them better start sharing.
*burp*
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[1] Or at least a vague, half-notion, which is more than enough to force
myself to get up in the mornings under threat of blackmail.
Screwtape
>By the ontological argument, ideal s'more would have to exist, since
>non-existance would spoil their ideality.
>
>Who's ever hiding them better start sharing.
You're kidding me. That's gotta be the worst piece of reasoning I've
seen since the anthropomorphic principle.
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Jim Evans
> Snapping his fingers to that funky beat, Jim Evans wrote:
<snip a little bit more>
> >"Quality", like cheap, is a relative term.
>
> Ooo, neat. That does put a new spin on the twins-in-rocket-ships
> analogy, doesn't it?
>
> "If Twin A is launched in a quality rocket ship, and Twin B is left on a
> relatively stationary but extraordinarily cheap space station..."
"... whose warranty will expire first, assuming Twin A is travelling at
50% light speed?"
> "Vaguely coherent" is, just to give you an example, the type of stuff I
> post to rhod & afda. You don't want to know what the deviated synapses
> of my mind come up with on my truly odd days, nor do you want to know
> how often I hit the "cancel" button rather than the "send" because I've
> realized just in time that I'm not really making any sense.
Huh?
> My completely incoherent state is -- well, it's just got to be seen to
> be believed. Look at the description of N's pocket universe I
> schriebed, and then take into consideration that I wasn't so much
> imagining it as describing what I -saw-.
Cooool! Hit send more often!
> >I never made it past Beavers (ooh, you lot!). Apparently I was too antisocial.
>
> Well, technically, I believe the term for my group was "Lobos." I
> remember something about it being a sort of animal, but I could never
> find it in the encyclopedia.
Its Spanglish for "Wolves" is it not?
> <snip a little more>
> >> Say, create two months or so of comics and
> >> -then- announce to the world that I'm ready to go.
> >
> >Ideally that is the way to go. I'm still working off mostly pre-written stuff.
>
> *THWAP* If that's true, then why delay the episodes by two weeks?
Up until AWASOF, most of the stuff was several years old, and had to be
rewritten. Some of it considerably. See "Stuff You Missed" in episodes
10 and 40.[2]
> I realize what you mean, though. You have the barest
> scratchings/sketches of the episodes laid out, which you then sit down
> and actually go about the whole writing process.
This is how things work for the new stuff. Ideally I spend some copious
free time making notes, and brilliant jokes are transmitted into my
prefontal lobes by an alien Zen master and astrophysicist while sipping
hot chocolate at a local cosmopolitan cafe. Then I write it out
longhand, while lounging between a leafy oak and coyly making eyes at
sunbathing French exchange students. Then later, over a glass of chilled
Tropical Punch, I type it up, insert a few spelling mistakes as
challenges to the pedants, and smooth out the rough bits.
The actual process is a little different, but it usually works pretty
much the same.
> While that's a good technique, that won't work for me.
You need more French exchange students.
[brief snip]
> Bare sketchings aren't going to cut it.
So it'll be a G-rated comic, then?
> I need a ream of archived comics, sitting, primed, and ready to be unleashed.
Hmm, a ream is 500 sheets, and I'll assume 3 comics per sheet. That's
1500 comics, divide by 360 days, that's about 4 years of comics[3]. I do
hope you're drawing already :)
> <snip, parse, snip>
> Speaking of Illustrator -- you weren't, but I'm pretending -- the way
> I'm going about comic art is on the computer. I don't have a scanner,
> so even if I -could- manage anything decent I wouldn't be able to get it
> on the screen. There are plenty of programs out there that look like
> they have possibilities, especially seeing as how I can't hold a mouse
> any better than a pencil.
>
> The same sort of programs might do well for you.
I was toying with an idea for something I could do in Illustrator, but
HG wouldn't be it. Still too complicated.
JIM
[2] http://aix1.uottawa.ca/~jevan093/hydrogenguy
Read it. Live it. Love it.
[3] At the mo I seem to be receiving jokes from Al Sharka.
Viki
>
> Comrade pieceoftheuniverse wrote:
>
> > (for extremely high values of "night," some involving two weeks),
> > I have come to realize the true value in being prepared.
>
Just to get this back to the subject of me me me me me...
In Law School I was voted to receive the Boy Scout award, because
I was always prepared for class.
:)
Viki, drinking rum since 11 pm, yes indeedy
Gordol
; > But I know me. If I let me slack,
; > I'll be there every Sunday night, trying to piece something vaguely
; > coherent together in time to throw it onstage when the midnight hour
; > strikes.
;
; Oh, its the incoherent stuff that's the best. A la "space walrus with
; photon flippers or something".
So, how would you differentiate it from Zippy?
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The World does not necessarily agree with my opinions.
"You have come a long way G'Kar. Further than I could have guessed.
Sheridan's promise binds me as well as it does him. We will take you
into the Council, G'Kar. And someday, when all this is over, perhaps
you will find it in your heart to forgive me." "Perhaps, but not
today." (Amb. Delenn and G'Kar, B5 "Ship Of Tears")
Al Sharka
} Comrade pieceoftheuniverse wrote:
}
} > I need a ream of archived comics, sitting, primed, and ready to
} > be unleashed.
}
} Hmm, a ream is 500 sheets, and I'll assume 3 comics per sheet.
} That's 1500 comics, divide by 360 days, that's about 4 years of
} comics[3]. I do hope you're drawing already :)
}
} [3] At the mo I seem to be receiving jokes from Al Sharka.
Time to change my passwords again.
Donald Welsh
wrote:
>Jim Evans schrieb:
>>By the ontological argument, ideal s'more would have to exist, since
>>non-existance would spoil their ideality.
>>Who's ever hiding them better start sharing.
>You're kidding me. That's gotta be the worst piece of reasoning I've
>seen since the anthropomorphic principle.
ITYM the anthropic principle.
The anthropomorphic principle explains the existence of FurryMUCK.
-- D. "To explain RHOD requires the anthropophagic principle." W.
Jason
I could have sworn it was the anthroprophallic principle.
Daniel E. Macks
P'raps anthroprofellatic?
dan, whose bright red Siamese fighting fishies are *very* pro-fellatic
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dma...@netspace.org
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pieceoftheuniverse
>Comrade pieceoftheuniverse wrote:
>> Snapping his fingers to that funky beat, Jim Evans wrote:
>> <snip a little bit>
><snip a little bit more>
>
>> >"Quality", like cheap, is a relative term.
>>
>> Ooo, neat. That does put a new spin on the twins-in-rocket-ships
>> analogy, doesn't it?
>>
>> "If Twin A is launched in a quality rocket ship, and Twin B is left on a
>> relatively stationary but extraordinarily cheap space station..."
>
>"... whose warranty will expire first, assuming Twin A is travelling at
>50% light speed?"
Well, warranties are always written in legalese, so no doubt travelling
so much as one-half c is going to void some clause or another. So Twin
A has actually expired his own warranty before he got his second wind.
>> "Vaguely coherent" is, just to give you an example, the type of stuff I
>> post to rhod & afda. You don't want to know what the deviated synapses
>> of my mind come up with on my truly odd days, nor do you want to know
>> how often I hit the "cancel" button rather than the "send" because I've
>> realized just in time that I'm not really making any sense.
>
>Huh?
And, in other cases, even my built-in mind filter fluctuates, letting me
see sense where there is none.
>> My completely incoherent state is -- well, it's just got to be seen to
>> be believed. Look at the description of N's pocket universe I
>> schriebed, and then take into consideration that I wasn't so much
>> imagining it as describing what I -saw-.
>
>Cooool! Hit send more often!
Sure, you say that now. But then when I start talking about how my pet
soloque ran up the light meter and started marvuoping at the passing
quen as it marbled the floor above it, all I get are odd looks in the
vague direction of my thirty-third eye.
>> Well, technically, I believe the term for my group was "Lobos." I
>> remember something about it being a sort of animal, but I could never
>> find it in the encyclopedia.
>
>Its Spanglish for "Wolves" is it not?
Oh. Well that does explain why our logo was a coyote-like beast.
Now explain to me why my highschool mascot was a lion, when the name of
our team was the "Monarchs." Wouldn't a butterfly make more sense?
>> <snip a little more>
>> >I'm still working off mostly pre-written stuff.
>>
>> *THWAP* If that's true, then why delay the episodes by two weeks?
>
>Up until AWASOF, most of the stuff was several years old, and had to be
>rewritten. Some of it considerably. See "Stuff You Missed" in episodes
>10 and 40.[2]
Ah, so E40 is going to be the -actual- one-year celebration, rather than
that decasode you tried to pull at E10, eh? I look forward to it.
>> I realize what you mean, though. You have the barest
>> scratchings/sketches of the episodes laid out, which you then sit down
>> and actually go about the whole writing process.
>
>This is how things work for the new stuff. Ideally I spend some copious
>free time making notes, and brilliant jokes are transmitted into my
>prefontal lobes
Where, as every neurologist knows, all data concerning point size and
pixel definition information is stored.
>by an alien Zen master and astrophysicist while sipping
>hot chocolate at a local cosmopolitan cafe.
I always knew Doug was real.
So what you're saying is that you take dictation from an individual that
just happens to have superhero co-workers. Interesting. From physicist
to secretary in 0.2 seconds?
>Then I write it out
>longhand, while lounging between a leafy oak and coyly making eyes at
>sunbathing French exchange students.
However, as you've stated before, you're a terrible artist, and the
"eyes" end up looking like rutabegas. The French exchange students no
doubt take the paper the eyes were drawn on and make airplanes.
Pity they're all male. Otherwise it could almost be called flirting.
Hell, maybe it is anyway.
>Then later, over a glass of chilled
>Tropical Punch, I type it up, insert a few spelling mistakes as
>challenges to the pedants, and smooth out the rough bits.
Except, of course, for those areas where you want it to be a bit rough,
in which case you just add more speeling mistokes.
>The actual process is a little different, but it usually works pretty
>much the same.
So, s/copious free time/late Sunday night, s/making notes/scribbling
furiously, s/brilliant jokes/stuff that seems funny after two pints,
s/while sipping hot chocolate/deep into my fifth pint, s/local
cosmopolitan cafe/the recesses of your college dorm, s/write it out
longhand/fumble mercilessly with the text, s/lounging/scrabbling s/coyly
making yes/pleading for your life while s/at sunbathing French exchange
students/muscle-bound gangstas who pummel me on a weekly basis, s/over a
glass of chilled Tropical/after I've healed a bit from their, s/spelling
mistakes/minor plot holes, s/smooth out the rough bits/ftp the bloody
thing just before midnight hits.
Wow. I'm surprised FOHG is as great as it is.
>> While that's a good technique, that won't work for me.
>
>You need more French exchange students.
Nah, slave labor's illegal in the United States. Well, officially,
anyway.
>[brief snip]
>> Bare sketchings aren't going to cut it.
>
>So it'll be a G-rated comic, then?
Not hardly. More of a PG-13. Or maybe they'll have to come up with a
new category for me.
>> I need a ream of archived comics, sitting, primed, and ready to be unleashed.
>
>Hmm, a ream is 500 sheets, and I'll assume 3 comics per sheet. That's
>1500 comics, divide by 360 days, that's about 4 years of comics[3]. I do
>hope you're drawing already :)
Actually more like two comics per sheet, which is a mere 1000 comics.
See, narrowed it down already.
>> <snip, parse, snip>
<again>
>I was toying with an idea for something I could do in Illustrator, but
>HG wouldn't be it. Still too complicated.
Give me a month to narrow down the program selections (I've got a mess
of titles, but I'm trying to find something relatively cheap and with a
decent interface). I'll try to give you a sample of a few renderings to
see what you think -- of my characters, that is. I might be able to
conform to the HG character descriptions, but I wouldn't want to incur
the wrath of the
> JIM
Exactly.
>[2] http://aix1.uottawa.ca/~jevan093/hydrogenguy
>Read it. Live it. Love it.
Did, doing, do.
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Screwtape
>On Wed, 7 Feb 2001 23:29:41 +0000, s...@ferd2.thristian.org (Screwtape)
>wrote:
>
>>Jim Evans schrieb:
>>>By the ontological argument, ideal s'more would have to exist, since
>>>non-existance would spoil their ideality.
>
>>>Who's ever hiding them better start sharing.
>
>>You're kidding me. That's gotta be the worst piece of reasoning I've
>>seen since the anthropomorphic principle.
>
>ITYM the anthropic principle.
You're probably right - I wasn't going to troll through aBHoT all over
again looking for one word, and /usr/dict/words is notoriously
inaccurate.
>The anthropomorphic principle explains the existence of FurryMUCK.
I'm glad something does.
>-- D. "To explain RHOD requires the anthropophagic principle." W.
Not anthropophallic?
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Jason Willoughby
> Comrade pieceoftheuniverse walked the Caves of Ice:
>> fun nevertheless.
> I never made it past Beavers (ooh, you lot!).
Yeah, it's like that down here, too. You're just allowed to be a Scout
if you're not into beavers.
Jim Evans
> Jim Evans pulled these words out of nothingness:
> >Comrade pieceoftheuniverse wrote:
> >> "If Twin A is launched in a quality rocket ship, and Twin B is left on a
> >> relatively stationary but extraordinarily cheap space station..."
> >
> >"... whose warranty will expire first, assuming Twin A is travelling at
> >50% light speed?"
>
> Well, warranties are always written in legalese, so no doubt travelling
> so much as one-half c is going to void some clause or another. So Twin
> A has actually expired his own warranty before he got his second wind.
Oooh, good answer. Think I'll use that next time I'm making up a
relativity exam.
> >Huh?
>
> And, in other cases, even my built-in mind filter fluctuates, letting me
> see sense where there is none.
Wha?
> Sure, you say that now. But then when I start talking about how my pet
> soloque ran up the light meter and started marvuoping at the passing
> quen as it marbled the floor above it, all I get are odd looks in the
> vague direction of my thirty-third eye.
When that happens, I draw the blinds and start playing my werf.
> Now explain to me why my highschool mascot was a lion, when the name of
> our team was the "Monarchs." Wouldn't a butterfly make more sense?
Because the lion is the Monarch of the Jungle, of course!
You should see the size of the cocoons.
> >Up until AWASOF, most of the stuff was several years old, and had to be
> >rewritten. Some of it considerably. See "Stuff You Missed" in episodes
> >10 and 40.[2]
>
> Ah, so E40 is going to be the -actual- one-year celebration, rather than
> that decasode you tried to pull at E10, eh? I look forward to it.
It promises to be every bit as pointless and self-indulgent as the other.
> >by an alien Zen master and astrophysicist while sipping
> >hot chocolate at a local cosmopolitan cafe.
>
> I always knew Doug was real.
Indeed. He's hanging by the window. One of these days I might scan him.
> So what you're saying is that you take dictation from an individual that
> just happens to have superhero co-workers. Interesting. From physicist
> to secretary in 0.2 seconds?
Nah, it takes way longer than that just to put on the panty hose.
> >Then I write it out
> >longhand, while lounging between a leafy oak and coyly making eyes at
> >sunbathing French exchange students.
>
> However, as you've stated before, you're a terrible artist, and the
> "eyes" end up looking like rutabegas. The French exchange students no
> doubt take the paper the eyes were drawn on and make airplanes.
>
> Pity they're all male. Otherwise it could almost be called flirting.
>
> Hell, maybe it is anyway.
Neener neener neener.
> >The actual process is a little different, but it usually works pretty
> >much the same.
>
> So, s/copious free time/late Sunday night, s/making notes/scribbling
> furiously, s/brilliant jokes/stuff that seems funny after two pints,
> s/while sipping hot chocolate/deep into my fifth pint, s/local
> cosmopolitan cafe/the recesses of your college dorm, s/write it out
> longhand/fumble mercilessly with the text, s/lounging/scrabbling s/coyly
> making yes/pleading for your life while s/at sunbathing French exchange
> students/muscle-bound gangstas who pummel me on a weekly basis, s/over a
> glass of chilled Tropical/after I've healed a bit from their, s/spelling
> mistakes/minor plot holes, s/smooth out the rough bits/ftp the bloody
> thing just before midnight hits.
Somewhere between the two extremes, of course. Although the hot
chocolate and exchange studentes are constants.
> Wow. I'm surprised FOHG is as great as it is.
It isn't, it's all done with mirrors.
> >> While that's a good technique, that won't work for me.
> >
> >You need more French exchange students.
>
> Nah, slave labor's illegal in the United States. Well, officially,
> anyway.
Wait, I thought you lived in California?
> >[brief snip]
> >> Bare sketchings aren't going to cut it.
> >
> >So it'll be a G-rated comic, then?
>
> Not hardly. More of a PG-13. Or maybe they'll have to come up with a
> new category for me.
POTU-13, perhaps? No cosmic fragments less than 13 billion years old.
> >> I need a ream of archived comics, sitting, primed, and ready to be unleashed.
> >
> >Hmm, a ream is 500 sheets, and I'll assume 3 comics per sheet. That's
> >1500 comics, divide by 360 days, that's about 4 years of comics[3]. I do
> >hope you're drawing already :)
>
> Actually more like two comics per sheet, which is a mere 1000 comics.
> See, narrowed it down already.
That's great! Now if you just use smaller paper - maybe envelopes - you
can get it down to 500.
> >> <snip, parse, snip>
> Give me a month to narrow down the program selections (I've got a mess
> of titles, but I'm trying to find something relatively cheap and with a
> decent interface).
Well the "cheap" [4] leaves out Illustrator, I guess. And the decent
interface leaves out pretty much everything else that I've seen...
> I'll try to give you a sample of a few renderings to
> see what you think -- of my characters, that is.
Oooh, I shall tremble with antici-
> I might be able to conform to the HG character descriptions, but I wouldn't want to
> incur the wrath of the
> > JIM
Oh, have a crack if want. If you can't incur my wrath by demolishing my
Cave, I'm pretty flexible.
> --
> pieceoftheuniverse - with the on-line comic "S.F.H." kinda sorta in tow.
"Squid-Free Herpes"?
JIM, ew, not sure I want to see a graphic representation of that...
Jim Evans
> Donald Welsh schrieb:
> >On Wed, 7 Feb 2001 23:29:41 +0000, s...@ferd2.thristian.org (Screwtape)
> >wrote:
> >>seen since the anthropomorphic principle.
> >
> >ITYM the anthropic principle.
I hearby declare:
"The Anthropomorphic Principle: The Universe is the way it is because it
likes it that way."
[snip]
> >-- D. "To explain RHOD requires the anthropophagic principle." W.
>
> Not anthropophallic?
Ichthyphallic, mostly.
JIM
Jason Willoughby
> Yeah, it's like that down here, too. You're just allowed to be a Scout
> if you're not into beavers.
<sigh>
Donald Welsh
>Jim Evans wrote:
>> Comrade pieceoftheuniverse wrote:
>> > (for extremely high values of "night," some involving two weeks),
>> > I have come to realize the true value in being prepared.
>> Like the Boy Scouts of Olde!
>Just to get this back to the subject of me me me me me...
>In Law School I was voted to receive the Boy Scout award, because
>I was always prepared for class.
Then how does one get a Girl Scout award?
-- D. "And don't say, 'by eating the most Brownies'." W.
pieceoftheuniverse
revealed a cunning plan:
>Comrade pieceoftheuniverse wrote:
>> Jim Evans pulled these words out of nothingness:
<snip>
>Wha?
That reminds me of a particularly vicious oracularity of mine. <plug
mode="shameless">
http://www.pieceoftheworld.com/oracle/piecedigest0001.html#0001-05
</plug>
>When that happens, I draw the blinds and start playing my werf.
Which, as everyone knows, is illegal in thirty-three of nine counties.
>> Now explain to me why my highschool mascot was a lion, when the name of
>> our team was the "Monarchs." Wouldn't a butterfly make more sense?
>
>Because the lion is the Monarch of the Jungle, of course!
>You should see the size of the cocoons.
I bet the annual migration patterns are a terror to watch.
<referring to upcoming FOHG events>
>> Ah, so E40 is going to be the -actual- one-year celebration, rather than
>> that decasode you tried to pull at E10, eh? I look forward to it.
>
>It promises to be every bit as pointless and self-indulgent as the other.
And, of course, featuring Rob Smith's second-ever appearance in the
files.
Speaking of poor ol' Rob, I keep expecting him to make an appearance in
the episodes -- sort of like Hitchcock, but in ASCII.
>> I always knew Doug was real.
>
>Indeed. He's hanging by the window. One of these days I might scan him.
Well, only if you can get him to lie still for a moment or two.
>> So what you're saying is that you take dictation from an individual that
>> just happens to have superhero co-workers. Interesting. From physicist
>> to secretary in 0.2 seconds?
>
>Nah, it takes way longer than that just to put on the panty hose.
Er ...
<snip the process of existence, and a revisionist history>
>Somewhere between the two extremes, of course. Although the hot
>chocolate and exchange studentes are constants.
What's -real- fun, of course, is when you mix up the two. Drinking hot
exchange students drenched in chocolate and marshmallows. Jeez, how do
you get any work done?
>> Wow. I'm surprised FOHG is as great as it is.
>
>It isn't, it's all done with mirrors.
That explains the complete lack of news coverage about Canada's new
outbreak of elementals.
>> >> While that's a good technique, that won't work for me.
>> >
>> >You need more French exchange students.
>>
>> Nah, slave labor's illegal in the United States. Well, officially,
>> anyway.
>
>Wait, I thought you lived in California?
Well, the only reason I call myself "American" is so I can get a huge
check from the United States government every year. They're paying me a
thousand dollars this time around to keep up the pseudo-citizenship, as
long as I don't break any major rules. What I -can- do, though, is set
up a business in France that makes small children work their fingers to
the bone at my every command. That might be fun.
>> >So it'll be a G-rated comic, then?
>>
>> Not hardly. More of a PG-13. Or maybe they'll have to come up with a
>> new category for me.
>
>POTU-13, perhaps? No cosmic fragments less than 13 billion years old.
Oooo, I like. Consider it stolen.
>> >> I need a ream of archived comics, sitting, primed, and ready to be unleashed.
>> >
>> >Hmm, a ream is 500 sheets, and I'll assume 3 comics per sheet. That's
>> >1500 comics, divide by 360 days, that's about 4 years of comics[3]. I do
>> >hope you're drawing already :)
>>
>> Actually more like two comics per sheet, which is a mere 1000 comics.
>> See, narrowed it down already.
>
>That's great! Now if you just use smaller paper - maybe envelopes - you
>can get it down to 500.
Why stop there? If I use -really- smalll paper, I'll only be able to
fit a single panel on each sheet! Since I'm hoping to average about ten
panels a comic, that's only fifty. If I use incredibly small paper,
I'll only be able to fit a fourth of a panel; that's only 12.5 comics.
If I use paper exacly one pixel by one pixel, then I've already got my
archive and I'm ready to go.
>> >> <snip, parse, snip>
>> Give me a month to narrow down the program selections (I've got a mess
>> of titles, but I'm trying to find something relatively cheap and with a
>> decent interface).
>
>Well the "cheap" [4] leaves out Illustrator, I guess. And the decent
>interface leaves out pretty much everything else that I've seen...
Your footnote's been kidnapped.
And "cheap" is for relatively high values of cheap (after all, I have
Photoshop, which is a $200+ app), but still too low to be called "oh my
ghod, you paid -what- for this?!?!?!"
>> I'll try to give you a sample of a few renderings to
>> see what you think -- of my characters, that is.
>
>Oooh, I shall tremble with antici-
>
>> I might be able to conform to the HG character descriptions, but I wouldn't want to
>> incur the wrath of the
>> > JIM
>
>Oh, have a crack if want. If you can't incur my wrath by demolishing my
>Cave, I'm pretty flexible.
Hmm. I have a program I've been testing out recently that I'm thinking
of using for backdrops. Now I'm tempted to see if I can render that
scene... I'll try it out over the weekend, and post it in an
inconspicuous place. Should be interesting, if it works.
>> pieceoftheuniverse - with the on-line comic "S.F.H." kinda sorta in tow.
>
>"Squid-Free Herpes"?
*THWAP*
No, no, no!
Speaking of which, though: isn't it about time Chapter Two of the S+H
Chronicles?
--
pieceoftheuniverse - and "S.F.H." is a tenative title, anyway.
Sid
jev...@physics.uottawa.ca wrote:
> > >-- D. "To explain RHOD requires the anthropophagic principle." W.
> >
> > Not anthropophallic?
>
> Ichthyphallic, mostly.
Just phallic, mostly.
Sid, incarnating DMP
--
s...@siddhartha.8m.com
Carol: "Can I cook, or can't I?"
--"STII:TWOK", Stardate 8130.4
Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/
Richard Fitzpatrick
>In article <3A838814...@physics.uottawa.ca>,
> jev...@physics.uottawa.ca wrote:
>
>> > >-- D. "To explain RHOD requires the anthropophagic principle." W.
>> >
>> > Not anthropophallic?
>>
>> Ichthyphallic, mostly.
>
>Just phallic, mostly.
>
>Sid, incarnating DMP
Oog. But you're probably right, Sid.
The thing I don't get is "ichthyphallic." "Like a fish's dick"?
Richard, whose dull green Kampuchean loving ghoti feels a bit icky.
Daniel E. Macks
>Sid wrote in message <961cb2$bqu$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>>In article <3A838814...@physics.uottawa.ca>,
>> jev...@physics.uottawa.ca wrote:
>>
>>> > >-- D. "To explain RHOD requires the anthropophagic principle." W.
>>> >
>>> > Not anthropophallic?
>>>
>>> Ichthyphallic, mostly.
>>
>>Just phallic, mostly.
>>
>>Sid, incarnating DMP
>
>Oog. But you're probably right, Sid.
>
>The thing I don't get is "ichthyphallic." "Like a fish's dick"?
Well, there's that whole supermarket aisle with frozen ravioli,
sdrombolis, fish-dicks, etc.
I'll get me 'at.
dan, whose bright red Siamese fighting fishies always thought "Chilly
Willy" was about a penguin
Sid
"Richard Fitzpatrick" <fit...@webone.com.au> wrote:
***minor reshuffle of cabinet****
> The thing I don't get is "ichthyphallic." "Like a fish's dick"?
Fish loving/liking, I think. But your interpretation makes a lot more
sense.
> Oog. But you're probably right, Sid.
But, of course.
Sid, stating the obvious since Oct 1980
--
s...@siddhartha.8m.com
Barclay: "I understand."
LaForge: "You understand?"
Barclay: "Everything!"
--"The Nth Degree", Stardate 44705.3
Daniel E. Macks
>Comrade Daniel E. Macks wrote:
>> pieceoftheuniverse <pieceofth...@yahoo.com> said:
>> >
>> >I'm just a lowly freshman, barely able to tell the difference
>> >between a quark and a muon.
>>
>> ...which I read as "quark and woman", and was all ready to make
>> some joke about physicists not having to worry about the latter,
>> but then decided against it 'cuz I wasn't in a makin'-fun-of-JIM
>> mood.
>
>Someone should take your temperature.
About 309 K. Now can I have it back, please? It's getting kinda chilly
without it.
>> dan, whose bright red Siamese fighting fishies are no longer freshmen
>
>I don't know, you still seem pretty fresh to me. *THWAP*
>
> JIM, who's not that kind of 'bot, thank you!
If you have port-forwarding enabled, does that mean I can be in bed
with you, but actually having sex with your sister?
dan, whose bright red Siamese fighting fishies have gotten more RSA
keys on matchbooks, milligram for milligram, than any creature in the
universe
Al Sharka
}
} dan, whose bright red Siamese fighting fishies always thought
} "Chilly Willy" was about a penguin
Dare we ask the fishies what they thought about "Steamboat Willy"?
Sid
Or Free Willy.
You're dead, Jim.
-- McCoy, "The Tholian Web", stardate unknown
Jim Evans
> Jim Evans <jev...@physics.uottawa.ca> said:
> >Comrade Daniel E. Macks wrote:
> >> ...which I read as "quark and woman", and was all ready to make
> >> some joke about physicists not having to worry about the latter,
> >> but then decided against it 'cuz I wasn't in a makin'-fun-of-JIM
> >> mood.
> >
> >Someone should take your temperature.
>
> About 309 K. Now can I have it back, please? It's getting kinda chilly
> without it.
Aw, absolute zero not good enough for you? Kids today. Why when I was a
lad we walked to school in -30 K weather, and liked it!
> >> dan, whose bright red Siamese fighting fishies are no longer freshmen
> >
> >I don't know, you still seem pretty fresh to me. *THWAP*
> >
> > JIM, who's not that kind of 'bot, thank you!
>
> If you have port-forwarding enabled, does that mean I can be in bed
> with you, but actually having sex with your sister?
This is about the creepiest thing I've seen on RHOD in ages. You, sir,
are the master.
And NO.
JIM, who's not that kind of tractor, either!
Jim Evans
> On Fri, 09 Feb 2001 00:59:59 -0500 the master of evil (a.k.a. Jim Evans)
> revealed a cunning plan:
> >Comrade pieceoftheuniverse wrote:
> >> Jim Evans pulled these words out of nothingness:
> >> >Huh?
> <snip>
> >Wha?
>
> That reminds me of a particularly vicious oracularity of mine. <plug
> mode="shameless">
> http://www.pieceoftheworld.com/oracle/piecedigest0001.html#0001-05
> </plug>
Very nice, even though you obviously wouldn't know a doontic valve if it
jumped up and bit you in the Higgs boson.
> >When that happens, I draw the blinds and start playing my werf.
>
> Which, as everyone knows, is illegal in thirty-three of nine counties.
Floating point error.
> >> Now explain to me why my highschool mascot was a lion, when the name of
> >> our team was the "Monarchs." Wouldn't a butterfly make more sense?
> >
> >Because the lion is the Monarch of the Jungle, of course!
> >You should see the size of the cocoons.
>
> I bet the annual migration patterns are a terror to watch.
The sky is their litterbox. It gets nasty.
> <referring to upcoming FOHG events>
> >> Ah, so E40 is going to be the -actual- one-year celebration, rather than
> >> that decasode you tried to pull at E10, eh? I look forward to it.
> >
> >It promises to be every bit as pointless and self-indulgent as the other.
>
> And, of course, featuring Rob Smith's second-ever appearance in the
> files.
> Speaking of poor ol' Rob, I keep expecting him to make an appearance in
> the episodes -- sort of like Hitchcock, but in ASCII.
Rob's been in about four episodes actually - he was in a couple recaps
in "Never Say Die Till You're Dead", and made an appearance by phone in
"Chaos Wears a Red Bow Tie".
And if those titles don't drag in the non-reader rhodents, I don't know
what will.
> >> I always knew Doug was real.
> >
> >Indeed. He's hanging by the window. One of these days I might scan him.
>
> Well, only if you can get him to lie still for a moment or two.
I could just wait for him to pass out in an alcoholic coma. After all
it's Sunday night...
> <snip the process of existence, and a revisionist history>
> >Somewhere between the two extremes, of course. Although the hot
> >chocolate and exchange studentes are constants.
>
> What's -real- fun, of course, is when you mix up the two. Drinking hot
> exchange students drenched in chocolate and marshmallows. Jeez, how do
> you get any work done?
Well I won't NOW, thank you very much!
> >> Nah, slave labor's illegal in the United States. Well, officially,
> >> anyway.
> >
> >Wait, I thought you lived in California?
>
> Well, the only reason I call myself "American" is so I can get a huge
> check from the United States government every year. They're paying me a
> thousand dollars this time around to keep up the pseudo-citizenship, as
> long as I don't break any major rules.
You sound like you could be a Quebecker.
> >Well the "cheap" [4] leaves out Illustrator, I guess. And the decent
> >interface leaves out pretty much everything else that I've seen...
>
> Your footnote's been kidnapped.
Dammit! Turn your back for one minute... I don't even remember what it
was anymore.
> >Oh, have a crack if want. If you can't incur my wrath by demolishing my
> >Cave, I'm pretty flexible.
>
> Hmm. I have a program I've been testing out recently that I'm thinking
> of using for backdrops. Now I'm tempted to see if I can render that
> scene... I'll try it out over the weekend, and post it in an
> inconspicuous place. Should be interesting, if it works.
Should be simple - large pile of rock, with a few twisted pieces of
machinery, at least one of which is vaguely recognizable as an espresso machine.
> >> pieceoftheuniverse - with the on-line comic "S.F.H." kinda sorta in tow.
> >
> >"Squid-Free Herpes"?
>
> *THWAP*
>
> No, no, no!
>
> Speaking of which, though: isn't it about time Chapter Two of the S+H
> Chronicles?
Ayup. It will happen, when I have a free weekend to update the non-HG
parts of the site. So if anyone's holding any breath... don't.
JIM, free time being about as rare as.. oh, Higgs bosons
Daniel E. Macks
>
>Just to get this back to the subject of me me me me me...
>
>In Law School I was voted to receive the Boy Scout award, because
>I was always prepared for class.
>
Hey--that's how I used to prepare for class too! Or at least that's
what I kept telling myself...
dan, whose bright red Siamese fighting fishies are *hic* ready for
class *hic* perfesher
Viki
>
> On Thu, 08 Feb 2001 01:30:06 -0500, Viki <vi...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
> >Jim Evans wrote:
>
> >> Comrade pieceoftheuniverse wrote:
>
> >> > (for extremely high values of "night," some involving two weeks),
> >> > I have come to realize the true value in being prepared.
>
> >> Like the Boy Scouts of Olde!
>
> >Just to get this back to the subject of me me me me me...
>
> >In Law School I was voted to receive the Boy Scout award, because
> >I was always prepared for class.
>
> Then how does one get a Girl Scout award?
Don't know. I only made it thru one year of Juniors.
> -- D. "And don't say, 'by eating the most Brownies'." W.
Well, only if the hash is good.
Viki
*booo* *boooooo*
pieceoftheuniverse
TechnoAtheist) revealed a cunning plan:
>On Tue, 06 Feb 2001 22:31:07 -0500, a group of loyal, honest, and not
>really proud monkeys claiming to be Jim Evans
><jev...@physics.uottawa.ca> wrote:
>>> >At least for me, RKM seems to do about 1-2 weeks of comics
>>> >per episode. But we all know I'm long winded.
>>>
>>> And HG would be about a month per, especially for those greater-than
>>> ten-pagers.
>>
>>Precisely as I say. And if it's only a MWF comic then one episode can
>>set one up for even longer.
>
>Ah, so you have read Freefall, then.
The only bell that particular name rings is a text adventure game from
Infocom. Something about someone or another falling into a planet. No,
wait; that was Planetfall. What are you talking about again?
>On the other side there's always WIGU, which manages to take long
>complicated story lines and do them in two strips.
I'm scared to ask how long the strips are.
>Have I mentioned how jealous I am of the both of you. I've continually
>put off The Greyhound because I just can't figure out a good villan.
That one got me for a while, because I am of the increasing opinion that
one person taking over the world wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing.
Back when I actually used to watch G.I. Joe, I always wondered what
would happen, exactly, under the Cobra Commander's reign that would be
all that terrible. Sure, you'd have to sacrifice a few freedoms here
and there, but isn't it worth the muss and bother of everyday life just
to have one people united for whatever the common good turns out to be?
No infighting, no wars, no need for an overly large military force
(especially if there's no evidence for alien races). Just one, big,
happy communist family.
Is that too much to ask?
But anyway, back to the point at hand: I decided to turn that exact
sentiment above into a character. He believes he's doing right by the
world (what evil mastermind doesn't, really?) and honestly doesn't
understand why he's meeting up with such awesome opposition. Drastic
times, he thinks as he primes his global neutron bomb...
--
pieceoftheuniverse - who promises to only destroy the universe once,
unlike SOME comic book villans we could mention.
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pieceoftheuniverse
>Comrade pieceoftheuniverse wrote:
<snip some headers so we lose all sense of context>
>> >When that happens, I draw the blinds and start playing my werf.
>>
>> Which, as everyone knows, is illegal in thirty-three of nine counties.
>
>Floating point error.
Dammit!
CTRL-ALT-DEL
>> >> Now explain to me why my highschool mascot was a lion, when the name of
>> >> our team was the "Monarchs." Wouldn't a butterfly make more sense?
>> >
>> >Because the lion is the Monarch of the Jungle, of course!
>> >You should see the size of the cocoons.
>>
>> I bet the annual migration patterns are a terror to watch.
>
>The sky is their litterbox. It gets nasty.
Even though butterflies are smaller, I'll never witness a monarch
migration ever again.
"Ewww!"
"What is it, hon?"
"The butterflies are crappin' all over the place!"
"What?"
"Can't you see it? Eww, they just got that guy over there right between
the eyes!"
"Come back inside the car, dear; I think you've had too much excitement
for one day."
>> <referring to upcoming FOHG events>
>> >> Ah, so E40 is going to be the -actual- one-year celebration, rather than
>> >> that decasode you tried to pull at E10, eh? I look forward to it.
>> >
>> >It promises to be every bit as pointless and self-indulgent as the other.
>>
>> And, of course, featuring Rob Smith's second-ever appearance in the
>> files.
>> Speaking of poor ol' Rob, I keep expecting him to make an appearance in
>> the episodes -- sort of like Hitchcock, but in ASCII.
>
>Rob's been in about four episodes actually - he was in a couple recaps
>in "Never Say Die Till You're Dead", and made an appearance by phone in
>"Chaos Wears a Red Bow Tie".
Don't recall his name coming up. He probably appeared in the credits as
"Tall Dark Man #1," didn't he?
>And if those titles don't drag in the non-reader rhodents, I don't know
>what will.
An offer of FREE FOOD!
That's right, potential readers! If you drop everything and read the
Files of Hydrogen Guy RIGHT NOW, JIMbot will transmit to you OVER
REGULAR PHONE LINES some authentic Hydrogen Guy Cuisine!
>> >> I always knew Doug was real.
>> >
>> >Indeed. He's hanging by the window. One of these days I might scan him.
>>
>> Well, only if you can get him to lie still for a moment or two.
>
>I could just wait for him to pass out in an alcoholic coma. After all
>it's Sunday night...
The fact that this ties in with our earlier discussion of waiting 'till
Sunday night to write up a story is a bit disturbing.
>> <snip the process of existence, and a revisionist history>
>> >Somewhere between the two extremes, of course. Although the hot
>> >chocolate and exchange studentes are constants.
>>
>> What's -real- fun, of course, is when you mix up the two. Drinking hot
>> exchange students drenched in chocolate and marshmallows. Jeez, how do
>> you get any work done?
>
>Well I won't NOW, thank you very much!
Episode 40 (or, as I like to call it, FOFOHG) seems to have gotten up
without a hitch. Glad to see you could tear yourself away from the
temptation.
>> >Wait, I thought you lived in California?
>>
>> Well, the only reason I call myself "American" is so I can get a huge
>> check from the United States government every year. They're paying me a
>> thousand dollars this time around to keep up the pseudo-citizenship, as
>> long as I don't break any major rules.
>
>You sound like you could be a Quebecker.
The Cubans get paid for calling themselves Americans?!?!
>> >Well the "cheap" [4] leaves out Illustrator, I guess. And the decent
>> >interface leaves out pretty much everything else that I've seen...
>>
>> Your footnote's been kidnapped.
>
>Dammit! Turn your back for one minute... I don't even remember what it
>was anymore.
Probably something giving a rough definition of "cheap." Don't worry, I
made that joke in the followup.
>> >Oh, have a crack if want. If you can't incur my wrath by demolishing my
>> >Cave, I'm pretty flexible.
>>
>> Hmm. I have a program I've been testing out recently that I'm thinking
>> of using for backdrops. Now I'm tempted to see if I can render that
>> scene... I'll try it out over the weekend, and post it in an
>> inconspicuous place. Should be interesting, if it works.
>
>Should be simple - large pile of rock, with a few twisted pieces of
>machinery, at least one of which is vaguely recognizable as an espresso machine.
It worked and it didn't. I managed to create the Cave, the hole drilled
by the alien laser, and several virtual kilotons of rock. The smashed
consoles, however, are presenting a bit of a problem. I'm tempted to go
back to 3D Studio MAX, but Bryce is just so -fun-.
>> >"Squid-Free Herpes"?
>>
>> Speaking of which, though: isn't it about time Chapter Two of the S+H
>> Chronicles?
>
>Ayup. It will happen, when I have a free weekend to update the non-HG
>parts of the site. So if anyone's holding any breath... don't.
[gasp]
NOW you tell me!
> JIM, free time being about as rare as.. oh, Higgs bosons
And since I've snipped that, I'll pretend I have no idea what you're
talking about.
--
pieceoftheuniverse - who usually fakes comprehension anyway.
TechnoAtheist
claiming to be pieceofth...@yahoo.com (pieceoftheuniverse)
wrote:
>On Wed, 07 Feb 2001 08:26:30 -0800 the master of evil (a.k.a.
>TechnoAtheist) revealed a cunning plan:
>
>>Ah, so you have read Freefall, then.
>
>The only bell that particular name rings is a text adventure game from
>Infocom. Something about someone or another falling into a planet. No,
>wait; that was Planetfall. What are you talking about again?
http://www.purrsia.com/freefall/default.htm
It's a MWF strip and "yesterday" took about a year.
>
>>On the other side there's always WIGU, which manages to take long
>>complicated story lines and do them in two strips.
>
>I'm scared to ask how long the strips are.
Four panels.
>
>>Have I mentioned how jealous I am of the both of you. I've continually
>>put off The Greyhound because I just can't figure out a good villan.
>
>That one got me for a while, because I am of the increasing opinion that
>one person taking over the world wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing.
>Back when I actually used to watch G.I. Joe, I always wondered what
>would happen, exactly, under the Cobra Commander's reign that would be
>all that terrible. Sure, you'd have to sacrifice a few freedoms here
>and there, but isn't it worth the muss and bother of everyday life just
>to have one people united for whatever the common good turns out to be?
>No infighting, no wars, no need for an overly large military force
>(especially if there's no evidence for alien races). Just one, big,
>happy communist family.
>
>Is that too much to ask?
>
>But anyway, back to the point at hand: I decided to turn that exact
>sentiment above into a character. He believes he's doing right by the
>world (what evil mastermind doesn't, really?) and honestly doesn't
>understand why he's meeting up with such awesome opposition. Drastic
>times, he thinks as he primes his global neutron bomb...
Back in the 80's there was a sadly too popular cartoon called Teenage
Mutant Ninja Turtles (which was based on a comic book series that was
completely different). The evil nasty supervillan was Shredder and his
goal was (of course) to take over the world.
In one episode, the heros travel into the future, one where Shredder
actually succeeded in taking over the world. They infiltrate his evil
overlord complex, which is plagued by middle management and useless
lackeys and find Shredder in a cramped dark office absolutely packed
with forms. He has foregone his normal Evil Villan armor in favor of a
blue suit, but has kept his spikey helmet possibly for sentimental
reasons.
The Heroes break in and cry: "Shredder, we're here to bring an end to
your evil reign!"
"Thank God you've made it. You know, when I was plotting to take over
the world, I had no idea how much paperwork would be involved. You see
this stack? It's the annual lightbulb usage requests for Latvia. And
this is a trade agreement between Morocco and Cyprus that needed to be
signed last Tuesday.
"I tell you, when you're crushing the weak in your struggle to the
top, you tend to miss a lot of the details."
It still stands in my mind as one of the funniest things I remember
seeing.
Dave Hemming
<Techno...@SpamIsBad.email.com> wrote:
[snip]
>Have I mentioned how jealous I am of the both of you. I've continually
>put off The Greyhound because I just can't figure out a good villan.
An electric rabbit?
Dave
Foiling the Energizer Bunny's dastardly plots
--
"You ate my brother!"
"Well, he started it."
http://wavespace.waverider.co.uk/~surfbaud/index.html
New Stories and comics Jan 2001
Lane Gray, Czar Castic
it's only waeffer theen" and then stuffed this morsel into the mouth of
rhod:
> "Ewww!"
> "What is it, hon?"
> "The butterflies are crappin' all over the place!"
> "What?"
> "Can't you see it? Eww, they just got that guy over there right
between
> the eyes!"
> "Come back inside the car, dear; I think you've had too much
excitement
> for one day."
Am I the only one who RTA "excrement"?
--
Lane Gray, dobroist(http://members.aol.com/e9c6zum/shesgone.wav), mead
maker, steel picker, Dagorhirim, husband, soon-to-be-ex-procrastinator.
I want my jetpack! see www.solotrek.com
Funny, I don't remember being absent-minded . . .
pieceoftheuniverse
>On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:48:43 GMT, a group of comicbook monkeys
>claiming to be pieceofth...@yahoo.com (pieceoftheuniverse)
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 07 Feb 2001 08:26:30 -0800 the master of evil (a.k.a.
>>TechnoAtheist) revealed a cunning plan:
>>
>>>Ah, so you have read Freefall, then.
>>
>>The only bell that particular name rings is a text adventure game from
>>Infocom. Something about someone or another falling into a planet. No,
>>wait; that was Planetfall. What are you talking about again?
>
>http://www.purrsia.com/freefall/default.htm
Now added to my ever-growing collection of on-line strips.
One of these days I'm going to get the storylines all messed up, I just
know it. "Wait a minute," I'll cry, "doesn't Bun-Bun have something
against that?" And then I'll remember that Bun-Bun doesn't feature in
College Roomies From Hell, and that the Japanese Beetle will -not- be
making a guest appearance.
>It's a MWF strip and "yesterday" took about a year.
I've had days like that, too.
<snip "when i grow up," since I never have and never will>
>>>Have I mentioned how jealous I am of the both of you. I've continually
>>>put off The Greyhound because I just can't figure out a good villan.
<snip pointless diatribe>
>He believes he's doing right by the
>>world (what evil mastermind doesn't, really?) and honestly doesn't
>>understand why he's meeting up with such awesome opposition. Drastic
>>times, he thinks as he primes his global neutron bomb...
>
>Back in the 80's there was a sadly too popular cartoon called Teenage
>Mutant Ninja Turtles (which was based on a comic book series that was
>completely different). The evil nasty supervillan was Shredder and his
>goal was (of course) to take over the world.
>
>In one episode, the heros travel into the future, one where Shredder
>actually succeeded in taking over the world. They infiltrate his evil
>overlord complex, which is plagued by middle management and useless
>lackeys and find Shredder in a cramped dark office absolutely packed
>with forms. He has foregone his normal Evil Villan armor in favor of a
>blue suit, but has kept his spikey helmet possibly for sentimental
>reasons.
>
>The Heroes break in and cry: "Shredder, we're here to bring an end to
>your evil reign!"
>
>"Thank God you've made it. You know, when I was plotting to take over
>the world, I had no idea how much paperwork would be involved. You see
>this stack? It's the annual lightbulb usage requests for Latvia. And
>this is a trade agreement between Morocco and Cyprus that needed to be
>signed last Tuesday.
>
>"I tell you, when you're crushing the weak in your struggle to the
>top, you tend to miss a lot of the details."
I remember that! Ghod, what a classic!
Unfortunately, I lost the tape it was recorded on (yes, I used to do
that. No, there was no terribly good reason why) so I forget how it
ends. I have a vague recollection of him gladly walking away from it
all, with the TMNT's help.
>It still stands in my mind as one of the funniest things I remember
>seeing.
Also the truest. Though I imagine a more modern-day post-takeover would
involve something bordering on the Senate in Star Wars: Four million
senators, and not a brain cell (much less a decision) amongst them. You
think the President has a tough time trying to get a bill through
-now-...
--
pieceoftheuniverse - you may conquer the universe, but you'll never get
rid of bureaucracy.
Donald Welsh
wrote:
>Viki <vi...@netscape.net> said:
>>
>>Just to get this back to the subject of me me me me me...
>>
>>In Law School I was voted to receive the Boy Scout award, because
>>I was always prepared for class.
>>
>>Viki, drinking rum since 11 pm, yes indeedy
>
>Hey--that's how I used to prepare for class too! Or at least that's
>what I kept telling myself...
>
>dan, whose bright red Siamese fighting fishies are *hic* ready for
>class *hic* perfesher
Then you bring the bottle into the exam.
-- D. "After all, it's state-dependent learning." W.
Donald Welsh
<cgra...@kc.rr.com> wrote:
>Just before ducking for cover, pieceoftheuniverse said, "please sir,
>it's only waeffer theen" and then stuffed this morsel into the mouth of
>rhod:
>> "Ewww!"
>> "What is it, hon?"
>> "The butterflies are crappin' all over the place!"
>> "What?"
>> "Can't you see it? Eww, they just got that guy over there right between
>> the eyes!"
>> "Come back inside the car, dear; I think you've had too much excitement
>> for one day."
>Am I the only one who RTA "excrement"?
Have another beer.
-- D. "Fresh from the cooler." W.
Wikkit
pieceofth...@yahoo.com (pieceoftheuniverse) wrote:
> Here in rec.humor.oracle.d, Screwtape has broken a lead story:
> >Henriette Kress schrieb:
> >>Cheers
> >>Hetta (NS, IE -and- opera. pkunzip, stuffit, -and- winzip. Furrfu.)
> >
> >Teehee - for browser compatibility testing, NS4, IE, Opera, for
> >standards compatibility testing Mozilla too. :)
> >
> >pkzip, stuffit, and winzip all have their own advantages. pkzip works
> >in DOS, and has the highest compression for .ZIP files, WinZip (and I
> >assume StuffIt) use a lower-quality version of ZIP compression.
> >StuffIt will handle .sit files, which nothing else will, and WinZip is
> >just generally the best intergrated to the Win95 shell - oh, and it
> >does .tar.gz, which pkzip doesn't, and StuffIt *might*.
It does in the mac version. It will uncompress .tar, .gz, .z, .zip,
.sit, .hqx, .sea, maybe .img, and some others.
> Great. Now I've got to add this to my list.
>
> What's that? You want to see what else is on there? Well, here it is:
> (in no particular order)
>
> - write a browser that actually conforms to the W3C, or at least HTML 4
iCab. www.icab.de
> - write an image editor that can read and write in all available
> formats (including, but not limited to: png, gif, pict, jpeg...)
GraphicConverter
> - write a compression utility that can read and write in all available
> formats (including, but not limited to: zip, sit, sea, tar.gz...)
Stuffit Expander
> - write a bare-bones OS. Attempt to make it compatible with everything
> else out there. Would prefer if it actually fit on a 1.44 disk
> (remember those days?)
Ha!
> - write a more-or-less complete script of five to seven years for an
> online comic I've been thinking about
I don't think Patrick even thinks that far ahead...
> - finally finish writing those three stories that have been hovering
> over me for the past three years
Yeah, I need to finish my novel.
> - write a newsreader with the capabilities of Agent and a couple other
> favourites
Probably already exists.
> - register the domain name I actually -want-
Talk with me in a month. I'll get it cheap.
> - update the site on a regular basis
Me too.
> - make millions of dollars, any way I can (this one's optional)
<aol>
> - learn java
Get better at C, C++, and Perl for me.
> - learn how to manipulate that cgi-bin to do my bidding
That's why I do Perl. Lotsa fun.
Coincidentally, the incompleterhod purity test is back up at
http://www.douglas-adams.com/Polls_&_Petitions/Purity_tests/purity.pl.cgi
?rhod
If that wraps, just go to purity.pl.cgi and it'll generate a link.
> - learn how to write programs. Again. Preferably in C++ this time
> rather than, as last time, COBOL
/me stifles laughter.
Heh. I already covered that one.
Ben
--
"I'm reading a book called Thesaurus, by Peter Mark Roget. I'm up to Chapter
427, entitled Semitransparency. It's a good story, but I think the author is a
bit of a show off regarding his vocabulary." -- I Think, rinkworks.com (#80)
Wikkit
pieceofth...@yahoo.com (pieceoftheuniverse) wrote:
> So, s/copious free time/late Sunday night, s/making notes/scribbling
> furiously, s/brilliant jokes/stuff that seems funny after two pints,
> s/while sipping hot chocolate/deep into my fifth pint, s/local
> cosmopolitan cafe/the recesses of your college dorm, s/write it out
> longhand/fumble mercilessly with the text, s/lounging/scrabbling s/coyly
> making yes/pleading for your life while s/at sunbathing French exchange
> students/muscle-bound gangstas who pummel me on a weekly basis, s/over a
> glass of chilled Tropical/after I've healed a bit from their, s/spelling
> mistakes/minor plot holes, s/smooth out the rough bits/ftp the bloody
> thing just before midnight hits.
Ok, just because I can't make any sense of that, I re-parsed it into
real perl (fixing your lack of eding '/', tsk) and this is what I got:
This is how things work for the new stuff. Ideally I spend some late
Sunday night scribbling furiously, and stuff that seems funny after two
pints are transmitted into my prefontal lobes by an alien Zen master and
astrophysicist deep into my fifth pint at a the recesses of your college
dorm. Then I fumble mercilessly with the text, while scrabbling between
a leafy oak and coyly making eyes muscle-bound gangstas who pummel me on
a weekly basis. Then later, after I've healed a bit from their Punch, I
type it up, insert a few minor plot holes as challenges to the pedants,
and ftp the bloody thing just before midnight hits..
pieceoftheuniverse
>In article <3a82c5fc...@spamkiller.sucknews.com>,
>pieceofth...@yahoo.com (pieceoftheuniverse) wrote:
<snip my fake perl expressions>
>Ok, just because I can't make any sense of that, I re-parsed it into
>real perl (fixing your lack of eding '/', tsk) and this is what I got:
>
>This is how things work for the new stuff. Ideally I spend some late
>Sunday night scribbling furiously, and stuff that seems funny after two
>pints are transmitted into my prefontal lobes by an alien Zen master and
>astrophysicist deep into my fifth pint at a the recesses of your college
>dorm. Then I fumble mercilessly with the text, while scrabbling between
>a leafy oak and coyly making eyes muscle-bound gangstas who pummel me on
>a weekly basis. Then later, after I've healed a bit from their Punch, I
>type it up, insert a few minor plot holes as challenges to the pedants,
>and ftp the bloody thing just before midnight hits..
Wow. That almost worked, too. I've really got to start compiling my
posts before I make them; this would have made a lot more sense that
way.
--
pieceoftheuniverse - yeah, right; like there's a chance of me making
sense, even with extensive compiling.
Gordol
; Coincidentally, the incompleterhod purity test is back up at
; http://www.douglas-adams.com/Polls_&_Petitions/Purity_tests/purity.pl.cgi
Hmm... one of the questions there +is+ an injoke I started. Gosh, I
feel proud. Shouldn't that adjust my score?
--
Jeffrey Kaplan
gor...@gordol.org <*> I'm set up for PGP. Are you?
The World does not necessarily agree with my opinions.
"Oh my god... here they come... switch to external viewers... [Shadow
Fleet is shown] They've got weapons lock! Here it comes... here it
comes!!! [Bright flash] Argghh!!!!" (Cmdr. Ivanova B5 [alternate
future] B5 "War Without End, Pt. 1")
Screwtape
Fair warning: geekiness ensues.
Wikkit schrieb:
>In article <3a78841a...@spamkiller.sucknews.com>,
>pieceofth...@yahoo.com (pieceoftheuniverse) wrote:
>> Great. Now I've got to add this to my list.
>>
>> What's that? You want to see what else is on there? Well, here it is:
>> (in no particular order)
>>
>> - write a browser that actually conforms to the W3C, or at least HTML 4
>
>iCab. www.icab.de
CSS? DHTML? ECMAScript?
>> - write a compression utility that can read and write in all available
>> formats (including, but not limited to: zip, sit, sea, tar.gz...)
>
>Stuffit Expander
...does it write, also?
Also annoying: Stuffit Expander (the Windows and Unix versions) refuse
to unpack anything but the data-fork of a .sit or .sea - they won't
even write MacBinary-encoded files. If you want a resource or info...
pffft.
>> - write a bare-bones OS. Attempt to make it compatible with everything
>> else out there. Would prefer if it actually fit on a 1.44 disk
>> (remember those days?)
>
>Ha!
Unix-like environment.
User-friendly GUI.
HTML 3.2 compliant web browser.
Your choice of dialler software or ethernet drivers (modem or
network-card connectivity).
Fully-functional web server.
No hard-drive required.
>> - write a more-or-less complete script of five to seven years for an
>> online comic I've been thinking about
>
>I don't think Patrick even thinks that far ahead...
I don't know how far ahead Patrick thinks. T&R story line have a
disturbing habit of starting off as completely unrelated tangents,
then moving towards the final story-line in the conclusion.
>> - learn how to manipulate that cgi-bin to do my bidding
>
>That's why I do Perl. Lotsa fun.
*muffle*Python*muffle*
Screwtape,
...fact of the minute: "pythoness" is a witch, not a snake.
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Richard Fitzpatrick
>In article <3a84...@iridium.webone.com.au>,
> "Richard Fitzpatrick" <fit...@webone.com.au> wrote:
>
>> The thing I don't get is "ichthyphallic." "Like a fish's dick"?
>
>Fish loving/liking, I think.
Nah, t'would be "ichthyphilic."
>But your interpretation makes a lot more sense.
Hey! No need to be rude.
>> Oog. But you're probably right, Sid.
>
>But, of course.
Oh. You weren't being rude. Carry on, then.
>Sid, stating the obvious since Oct 1980
Richard, whose dull green Kampuchean loving ghoti don't mind - as long as
it's bleedin' hobvious.
Donald Welsh
(pieceoftheuniverse) wrote:
>In the land of rec.humor.oracle.d, there is a tale told of Wikkit:
>>In article <3a82c5fc...@spamkiller.sucknews.com>,
>>pieceofth...@yahoo.com (pieceoftheuniverse) wrote:
><snip my fake perl expressions>
>>Ok, just because I can't make any sense of that, I re-parsed it into
>>real perl (fixing your lack of eding '/', tsk) and this is what I got:
With minor editing (to "aerate it", to use Fuller's term) [1]:
; this is how things work for the new stuff
; ideally i spend some late sunday night
; scribbling furiously
; and stuff that seems funny
; after two pints
; are transmitted into my prefontal lobes
; by an alien zen master and astrophysicist
; deep into my fifth pint
; at a the recesses of your college dorm
; then i fumble mercilessly with the text
; while scrabbling between
; a leafy oak and coyly making eyes muscle-bound
; gangstas who pummel me on a weekly basis
; then later
; after I've healed a bit
; from their punch
; i type it up
; insert a few minor plot holes
; as challenges to the pedants
; and ftp the bloody thing
; just before midnight hits
Poetry. Pure bloody poetry. Especially the "coyly making eyes muscle-
bound" -- it's a good metaphor for the strength of wills involved in
apparently subtle flirtation.
>Wow. That almost worked, too. I've really got to start compiling my
>posts before I make them; this would have made a lot more sense that
>way.
You didn't mean it that way?
[1] This being a technique familiar to those who have read the "Ballad
of Mel".
>--
>pieceoftheuniverse - yeah, right; like there's a chance of me making
>sense, even with extensive compiling.
-- D. "Maybe I've read too much Mark V. Shaney." W.
Al Sharka
>
> [1] This being a technique familiar to those who have read the "Ballad
> of Mel".
Mel is my hero.
Donald Welsh
wrote:
I know twelve languages, and can write good FORTRAN in any of them.
Daniel E. Macks
>
>I know twelve languages, and can write good FORTRAN in any of them.
Just for consistency, are all 12 of 'em dead languages?
</troll>
dan, whose bright red Siamese fihgting fihsies haven't punched a deck in days
TechnoAtheist
be dma...@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Daniel E. Macks) wrote:
>Donald Welsh <dwe...@nospam.melbpc.org.au> said:
>>
>>I know twelve languages, and can write good FORTRAN in any of them.
>
>Just for consistency, are all 12 of 'em dead languages?
></troll>
>
>dan, whose bright red Siamese fihgting fihsies haven't punched a deck in days
Pah! 12?
Jim Menard
Thanks for reminding me about that page. I contributed the first Perl
version, and because of your reminder I've just contributed a Ruby version.
Jim
--
Jim Menard, ji...@io.com, http://www.io.com/~jimm/
"Dvorak users of the world flgkd!" -- Kirsten Chevalier in rec.humor.oracle.d
BJ
>TechnoAtheist <Techno...@SpamIsBad.email.com> writes:
>
>> On 21 Feb 2001 22:35:03 GMT, a group of linguistic monkeys claiming to
>> be dma...@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Daniel E. Macks) wrote:
>>
>> >Donald Welsh <dwe...@nospam.melbpc.org.au> said:
>> >>
>> >>I know twelve languages, and can write good FORTRAN in any of them.
>> >
>> >Just for consistency, are all 12 of 'em dead languages?
>> ></troll>
>> >
>> >dan, whose bright red Siamese fihgting fihsies haven't punched a deck in days
>>
>>
>> Pah! 12?
>>
>> http://www.ionet.net/~timtroyr/funhouse/beer.html
>
>Thanks for reminding me about that page. I contributed the first Perl
>version, and because of your reminder I've just contributed a Ruby version.
>
>Jim
I had to go and check this out... and browsed through to find some of
the versions... stopping (with a major headache) at the Assembler
section.
There, listed in the following order, were "80x86 Assembler", "Vax VMS
Assembler", and "IBM 370 Assembler".
By a strange coincidence that could only be attributed to the use of
an Infinite Improbability Drive in the near vacinity, this is the
EXACT order I took these languages in college, in three consecutive
semesters.
By the time I hit the IBM MVS 370 class, I had so many different
addressing schemes and mneumonic sets floating around in my head I
could have been classified legally deranged. (in fact, I think I
was... but I'm feeling much better now.) I almost didn't finish the
final exam because half of my answers started in 370 assembler, then
switched to (or mixed in) the other versions. (Of course, I now have
access to an MVS 390 emulator that runs on my 80x86, x being a
sufficiently unknown number... if only I had known that back then, I
would have switched majors to something in the Forestry or Parks &
Recreation Tourism schools... or I would have become a lumberjack).
It took two straight semesters of almost nothing but "Humanities"
electives to get my brain rescrambled to it's normally abnormal state.
Of course, I was taking classes like "Mythology", "Science Fiction",
"American Humor (aka 101 reasons why most British Humor is far
superior)" and "Pornography of the Middle Ages (aka Chaucer Was A Real
Scamp)".
-- BJ (who doesn't dress anything like what is described in "The
Lumberjack Song", thank you very much...)
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TechnoAtheist
claiming to be BJ <bjbac...@alumniSPAM.clemson.edu> wrote:
>By the time I hit the IBM MVS 370 class, I had so many different
>addressing schemes and mneumonic sets floating around in my head I
>could have been classified legally deranged. (in fact, I think I
>was... but I'm feeling much better now.) I almost didn't finish the
>final exam because half of my answers started in 370 assembler, then
>switched to (or mixed in) the other versions. (Of course, I now have
>access to an MVS 390 emulator that runs on my 80x86, x being a
>sufficiently unknown number... if only I had known that back then, I
>would have switched majors to something in the Forestry or Parks &
>Recreation Tourism schools... or I would have become a lumberjack).
>
Hmm, I bet you'd be pretty darn efficient, too. All you'd have to do
is shift -1 onto the root and the tree would crash.
BJ
Yes, but all the "Branch" on condition stuff would have been a bummer.
"Tree" search logic is a whole different thing entirely... a binary
search for the larch, for example, would get multiple hits.
Of course, the first time my axe got a general protection fault or the
chainsaw got an S322 (instead of running out of gas -- you MVS folks
will get that one), and it would have been straightjacket time in the
funny farm for ol' BJ here.
-- BJ (who sometimes can't see the forest for the trees...)
Donald Welsh
<Techno...@SpamIsBad.email.com> wrote:
>Pah! 12?
For sufficiently large values of 12.