Elvis is back
Sid
I just saw it today. Truly amazing. I need to sleep now. Will write
about the show tomorrow evening.
Sid
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steven
> It's the Return Of The King!
So Aragorn develops a Southern twang and re-invents rock and roll
music?
Wow, talk about a departure from the source material.
I suppose I should put spoiler tags up above, but ... nah, too lazy.
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Richard Fitzpatrick
>
> It's the Return Of The King!
>
> tomorrow evening.
Please be VERY careful with your spoilers[1]. It doesn't open in
Australia until Boxing Day (26 December).
At least it's Boxing Day 2003, I s'pose.
> I need to sleep now.
What, all that cricket excitement keeping you up?
Go Bharat!
Richard F.
[1] Not about the storyline so much, as about all the neat stuff the
movie is sure to have.
TechnoAtheist
bad jewelry fetish claiming to be ossi...@hotmail.com (Richard
Fitzpatrick) wrote:
Sauron dies.
Although I did find the dance number at the end a bit distracting.
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Sid
> It's the Return Of The King!
>
> I just saw it today. Truly amazing. I need to sleep now. Will write
> about the show tomorrow evening.
Warning (for Richard and others who may want to watch this movie
"fresh"):
The rest of this post contains spoilers of all sorts - visual elements,
plot, best seats in the house, what kind of popcorn to buy etc.
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Preliminary :
i. Empty your bladders before watching the movie. Go twice if you have
to. It's 3 hours and 20 minutes long. Plus the credits.
ii. If your cinema hall doesn't have a good sound system, find one that
does.
iii.
Single-word synopsis :
Mind-blowing. Okay, so that's two words.
This movie was completely worth the wait. And more. All the reviews that
you may read about Return Of The King being a masterpiece - well, they
aren't that far from the truth.
Visual :
i. Gollum still continues to amaze me. The facial expressions, the
interaction with "real" objects, it's amazing. There's one particular
scene where he talks with his reflection which is particularly well
done.
ii. Minas Tirith is beautifully done. Most of it is CGI of course. But,
like much of the rest of the movie, it is impossible to tell where the
real ends and the computer-generated begins. Our first look at Minas
Tirith, when Gandalf and Pippin ride up the seven levels on Shadowfax is
breathtaking.
iii. All the creatures - the winged-steeds of the Nazgul, the
Oliphaunts, the dead are very realistic. One which stands out is
Shelob. The scariest spider I have seen on-screen.
iv. The seige of Gondor and the Battle of Pelennor Fields are every bit
as big and even bigger than the battle of Helm's Deep.
v. The Black Gate, Cirith Ungol, Mount Doom and Mordor are chilling.
Audio :
i. The soundtrack fits perfectly with the narration. There's one
particular instance, when Pippin sings for Denethor, while Faramir and
his men ride out to Osgiliath, which is especially moving.
ii. The shrieks and the screams of the winged-beasts are something
else.
iii. It's a LOUD movie.
Plot and continuity :
As expected, the story is not exactly in sequence, but is more or less
so.
i. The Shelob sequence from The Two Towers is incorporated into
ROTK. (just before Cirith Ungol)
ii. The Pyre of Denethor is present, the houses of healing are not.
iii. The Palantir sequence from Isildur is also present in ROTK.
iv. There is NO Saruman in this movie. Not in the flooding of Isildur
nor at the end, nor in the credits.
v. Which means, there is NO scouring of the shire. In fact, I don't
think it was even shot.
vi. The Grey Havens scene is there. Peter Jackson has taken a lot of
trouble to wrap up the trilogy completely and resisted the urge to just
end the film after the ring is destroyed.
vii. The houses of healing are not there in the movie.
viii. Minor Quibble - the scene when Aragorn arrives in the ships into
the Fields of Pelennor, doesn't show his standard.
ix. There's a small bit about how Smeagol got the ring right in the
beginning of the movie.
Acting :
i. Gollum steals just about every scene he's in. (Andy Serkis gets a
little bit of screen time at the beginning)
ii. Sean Astin's Sam is probably the best performance in the whole
movie. Ian McKellan is amazing as usual.
iii. The rest turned out good performances. Nothing stood out as being a
bad bit of acting.
I must have missed out a lot of things. Too tired to continue. Will add
more if I remember anything.
Sid, is seeing it at again on Saturday
Sid
> Sid wrote...
> >
> > It's the Return Of The King!
> >
> > I just saw it today. Truly amazing. Will write about the show
> > tomorrow evening.
>
> Please be VERY careful with your spoilers[1]. It doesn't open in
> Australia until Boxing Day (26 December).
>
> At least it's Boxing Day 2003, I s'pose.
Hmmm, don't read my second post on this topic then. It contains
spoilers.
> > I need to sleep now.
>
> What, all that cricket excitement keeping you up?
No television telecast here. :-( I have been following it on the net and
on radio.
> Go Bharat!
Any chance of getting tickets for the Boxing day test? I happen to be
free around then and I am feeling crazy enough to fly over for it.
Richard Fitzpatrick
Sid wrote...
> Richard Fitzpatrick writes:
> > Sid wrote...
> > >
> > > It's the Return Of The King!
> > >
> > > I just saw it today. Truly amazing. Will write about the
> > > show tomorrow evening.
> >
> > Please be VERY careful with your spoilers[1]. It doesn't
> > open in Australia until Boxing Day (26 December).
>
> Hmmm, don't read my second post on this topic then. It contains
> spoilers.
Silly, SILLY, Sid.
> > Go Bharat!
>
> Any chance of getting tickets for the Boxing day test? I happen to be
> free around then and I am feeling crazy enough to fly over for it.
After Steve Waugh announcing his retirement? You gotta be kidding. BUT...
...I *do* have tickets to the second day (Saturday) New Years Day Test in
Sydney. Steve Waugh's last hurrah, etc, etc, etc. Got 'em eight weeks ago
with about 25 friends. If you guarantee you're coming, I'll see if I can
talk someone into coughing up their ticket.
--
Richard, whose dull green Kampuchean loving ghoti bowls maiden overs.
Ian Davis
"Richard Fitzpatrick" <fit...@webone.NO.SPAM.com.au> wrote:
> Richard, whose dull green Kampuchean loving ghoti bowls maiden overs.
It's your silly point I'm worried about.
Ian.
Sid
> [Posted & mailed]
> > Hmmm, don't read my second post on this topic then. It contains
> > spoilers.
>
> Silly, SILLY, Sid.
ITYM, "Silly sid. Silly sad sid. Silly sick sad sid."
> > Any chance of getting tickets for the Boxing day test? I happen to be
> > free around then and I am feeling crazy enough to fly over for it.
>
> After Steve Waugh announcing his retirement? You gotta be kidding. BUT...
>
> ...I *do* have tickets to the second day (Saturday) New Years Day Test in
> Sydney. Steve Waugh's last hurrah, etc, etc, etc. Got 'em eight weeks ago
> with about 25 friends. If you guarantee you're coming, I'll see if I can
> talk someone into coughing up their ticket.
Thanks for the offer, but I don't think I can get away for the Sydney
test. Also, I wouldn't want any friend of yours to miss seeing Steve
Waugh lose his last test. :-p
> Richard, whose dull green Kampuchean loving ghoti bowls maiden overs.
To bowl a maiden over:
i. Remove Cover and Extra Cover.
ii. Move fine leg to square leg.
Hmm, I can't seem to think of a way to finish this.
Joseph B. W. Shane
> Sid <no...@hotmail.com> writes:
>
>
>>It's the Return Of The King!
>>
>>I just saw it today. Truly amazing. I need to sleep now. Will write
>>about the show tomorrow evening.
>
>
> Warning (for Richard and others who may want to watch this movie
> "fresh"):
>
> The rest of this post contains spoilers of all sorts - visual elements,
> plot, best seats in the house, what kind of popcorn to buy etc.
<snip>
> ii. Minas Tirith is beautifully done. Most of it is CGI of course. But,
(SHH!)
<snip>
TimC
> "Richard Fitzpatrick" <fit...@webone.NO.SPAM.com.au> writes:
>
>> [Posted & mailed]
>
>> > Hmmm, don't read my second post on this topic then. It contains
>> > spoilers.
>>
>> Silly, SILLY, Sid.
>
> ITYM, "Silly sid. Silly sad sid. Silly sick sad sid."
Gee, that was a long time ago.
Yay! I started a meme!
>> Richard, whose dull green Kampuchean loving ghoti bowls maiden overs.
>
> To bowl a maiden over:
>
> i. Remove Cover and Extra Cover.
> ii. Move fine leg to square leg.
>
> Hmm, I can't seem to think of a way to finish this.
AHBOUed.
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Jeffrey Kaplan
; The rest of this post contains spoilers of all sorts - visual elements,
;
; Acting :
; i. Gollum steals just about every scene he's in. (Andy Serkis gets a
; little bit of screen time at the beginning)
; ii. Sean Astin's Sam is probably the best performance in the whole
; movie. Ian McKellan is amazing as usual.
; iii. The rest turned out good performances. Nothing stood out as being a
; bad bit of acting.
My biggest quibble is that this time around, they didn't get the
Hobbit/Human scaling right. There are several scenes where they showed
Merry&Pippen or Frodo against a human, shot from the back. I could
easily tell that the Hobbits were played by children.
Samwise Gamgee is the true hero of the quest to destroy the ring, not
Frodo. He's the only one who had the option to turn back but kept
going.
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Fierce Cookie
> Samwise Gamgee is the true hero of the quest to destroy the ring, not
> Frodo. He's the only one who had the option to turn back but kept
> going.
But that's essentially the same as it was in the story. Frodo's character
develops early on, when he becomes resigned to his fate as the ring
bearer. Sam's character development is all about self-confidence, courage,
and trusting himself. The true crisis moment is in the chapter called "The
Choices of Master Samwise," which I think they managed to capture very
well.
--
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René Torenstra
>It's the Return Of The King!
>
>I just saw it today. Truly amazing. I need to sleep now. Will write
>about the show tomorrow evening.
>
>Sid
I can't wait. I have a movie date after christmas, but can barely
resist the urge to go and see it on my own first.
(Shh... I am a role-playing freak on a MUSH. Yeah, point and laugh.
Lamathinn doesn't care.)
In RL I am a musician, though, and sometimes play at weddings. A few
years ago we played at the wedding of a guy named Frodo. Born in the
late 60s, obviously.
He must have hated his parents when the sentence "Will you take this
ring..." was spoken and a frantic murmuring could be heard in the
crowd.
I don't remember her name, but the bride didn't look like Elrond. Or
Arwen, unfortunately.
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Sorry, I didn't read the book. I was waiting for the movie. :)
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> To bowl a maiden over:
>
> i. Remove Cover and Extra Cover.
> ii. Move fine leg to square leg.
>
> Hmm, I can't seem to think of a way to finish this.
iii. Forget your deodorant.
Richard Wilson
>
>To bowl a maiden over:
>
>i. Remove Cover and Extra Cover.
>ii. Move fine leg to square leg.
>
>Hmm, I can't seem to think of a way to finish this.
Neither can I, but I think stroking the ball down to gully comes into it
somewheres.
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Sid
> It's the Return Of The King!
>
> I just saw it today. Truly amazing. I need to sleep now. Will write
> about the show tomorrow evening.
Saw it again on Saturday, and then again tonight.
Sid, three should be enough for now
Ian Davis
>
> To bowl a maiden over:
>
> i. Remove Cover and Extra Cover.
> ii. Move fine leg to square leg.
>
> Hmm, I can't seem to think of a way to finish this.
I can't either, but in your case I am sure that "stump" will get a
mention somewhere.
Ian.
Richard Fitzpatrick
> Sid <no...@hotmail.com> writes:
> >
> > It's the Return Of The King!
> >
> > I just saw it today. Truly amazing. I need to sleep now. Will
> > write about the show tomorrow evening.
>
> Saw it again on Saturday, and then again tonight.
>
> Sid, three should be enough for now
Well, *of course* three should be enough. I feel quite certain Peter
Jackson will never want to undertake The Silmarillion or any other
such absurdity...
Richard Fitzpatrick
>
> Warning (for Richard and others who may want to watch this movie
> "fresh"):
>
> The rest of this post contains spoilers of all sorts - visual elements,
> plot, best seats in the house, what kind of popcorn to buy etc.
.
.
.
.
> Single-word synopsis :
> Mind-blowing. Okay, so that's two words.
Is this what you're trying to say, Sid?
http://www.pvponline.com/archive.php3?archive=20031217
Richard Fitzpatrick
>
> Sorry, I didn't read the book. I was waiting for the movie. :)
Then wait no longer.
Silly Jeff.
;-)
Richard Fitzpatrick
> "Richard Fitzpatrick" <fit...@webone.NO.SPAM.com.au> writes:
> >
> > ...I *do* have tickets to the second day (Saturday) New Years Day Test
> > in Sydney. Steve Waugh's last hurrah, etc, etc, etc. Got 'em eight
> > weeks ago with about 25 friends. If you guarantee you're coming, I'll
> > see if I can talk someone into coughing up their ticket.
>
> Thanks for the offer, but I don't think I can get away for the Sydney
> test. Also, I wouldn't want any friend of yours to miss seeing Steve
> Waugh lose his last test. :-p
Wouldn be no great loss - they're not that avid as cricket fans. This
is an itinerant hockey team that gets drunk at the cricket to maintain
contact over summer. You're probably welcome, so let me know if you
can make it.
> > Richard, whose dull green Kampuchean loving ghoti bowls maiden overs.
>
> To bowl a maiden over:
>
> i. Remove Cover and Extra Cover.
> ii. Move fine leg to square leg.
>
> Hmm, I can't seem to think of a way to finish this.
[NB: the preceding and following are actually terms that you could,
sort of, use legitimately in cricket.]
iii. Move slip of of the way of the gully?
iv. Move short leg to long leg?
v. Check the wicket for opening cracks?
vi. Ensure the point is where you thought it should be?
vii. Protect your stump(s). [Really!]
iix. Polish your ball. [Really!]
ix. Put it right up in the block-hole. [Really!]
x. A good one comes off the meat of the bat?
xi. If you get a bouncer, decide whether to hook or duck?
xii. It one sits up on you, either drive or pull. [Really!]
xiii. Stay within the crease, or you risk getting out. [Really!]
I think I've said about enough.
Jeffrey Kaplan
; Jeffrey Kaplan <rh...@gordol.org> wrote in message news:<to77uvojvr0j40mjg...@news20.forteinc.com>...
; >
; > Sorry, I didn't read the book. I was waiting for the movie. :)
;
; Then wait no longer.
I want to finish Discworld first, then I have the latest from Lois
McMaster Bujold to read...
; Silly Jeff.
Yes, and?
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and twice as ugly and when it flies past it's like you hear a scream in
your mind." (Lt. Keffer, B5 "The Fall Of Night")
Jeffrey Kaplan
; Saw it again on Saturday, and then again tonight.
; Sid, three should be enough for now
And three shall be the number of thy counting.
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Being dead is quite painless. Pain, like time, is going to come on
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"Barrayar"])
Jeffrey Kaplan
; Well, *of course* three should be enough. I feel quite certain Peter
; Jackson will never want to undertake The Silmarillion or any other
; such absurdity...
The Hobbit.
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Sid
> Well, *of course* three should be enough. I feel quite certain Peter
> Jackson will never want to undertake The Silmarillion or any other
> such absurdity...
How about the Hobbit? The Silmarillion can, at best, be a documentary.
Sid
Sid
Close. Only, I wasn't so lost for words. The feeling breathless part is
accurate.
Sid
Sid
ossi...@hotmail.com (Richard Fitzpatrick) writes:
> > "Richard Fitzpatrick" <fit...@webone.NO.SPAM.com.au> writes:
> Wouldn be no great loss - they're not that avid as cricket fans. This
> is an itinerant hockey team that gets drunk at the cricket to maintain
Great. I could have talked about Hockey as well. We had a good year
(towards the end, at any rate).
> contact over summer. You're probably welcome, so let me know if you
> can make it.
But, sadly, my leave ends on the 2nd of Jan. So I won't be able to come
over then. Thanks once again.
> > To bowl a maiden over:
> >
> > i. Remove Cover and Extra Cover.
> > ii. Move fine leg to square leg.
> >
> > Hmm, I can't seem to think of a way to finish this.
>
> [NB: the preceding and following are actually terms that you could,
> sort of, use legitimately in cricket.]
>
> iii. Move slip of of the way of the gully?
> iv. Move short leg to long leg?
> v. Check the wicket for opening cracks?
> vi. Ensure the point is where you thought it should be?
> vii. Protect your stump(s). [Really!]
> iix. Polish your ball. [Really!]
> ix. Put it right up in the block-hole. [Really!]
> x. A good one comes off the meat of the bat?
> xi. If you get a bouncer, decide whether to hook or duck?
> xii. It one sits up on you, either drive or pull. [Really!]
> xiii. Stay within the crease, or you risk getting out. [Really!]
xiv. Make sure your balls swing the right way.
xv. Always deliver seam up.
xvi. Always approach the crease in an upright stride
xvii. Don't get caught behind.
xviii. Always offer a straight bat.
xix. If the balls don't come to the length you expected, do some
gardening on the pitch.
And, the final tip to bowl a maiden over,
xx. If all else fails, appeal.
Sid
> Previously on rec.humor.oracle.d, Sid said:
>
> ; Saw it again on Saturday, and then again tonight.
> ; Sid, three should be enough for now
>
> And three shall be the number of thy counting.
I shall now proceed to lob my Holy Hand Grenade.
Sid, may snuff it instead
Brad Beyenhof
Fitzpatrick at ossi...@hotmail.com wrote on 12/21/03 6:57 PM:
I actually heard a report on the radio this morning outlining the best
places to take a pee break during the movie:
I. 26 minutes: when Liv Tyler shows up there are three minutes of
non-essential romantic stuff.
II. 1 hour, 15 minutes: when Liv Tyler shows up, you have 72 seconds before
a major plot development occurs.
III. 1 hour, 45 minutes: when Frodo says "I have to destroy it, for both of
our sakes," there are 90 seconds with which to take a break.
The radio host also recommended NOT getting a large drink, sitting on the
aisle, and making sure you know where the nearest bathroom is BEFORE the
movie starts. Being closest the the center of the movie, possible break #3
is the best and most essential.
Just thought I pass the info along.
--
Brad Beyenhof
Tom Harrington
Brad Beyenhof <bbey...@SPAM.sbcglobal.SUCKS.net> wrote:
> The radio host also recommended NOT getting a large drink, sitting on the
> aisle, and making sure you know where the nearest bathroom is BEFORE the
> movie starts. Being closest the the center of the movie, possible break #3
> is the best and most essential.
This shows lack of planning. Why get up at all? Buy whatever size
drink you want. Once you're done drinking it, the cup can be used as a
makeshift chamber pot.
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> The rest of this post contains spoilers of all sorts - visual elements,
> plot, best seats in the house, what kind of popcorn to buy etc.
I thought that ROTK had the potential to be a great film, but that it
was ruined by all the product placement. I mean, whose idea was it to
have Sam and Frodo eating Power Bars instead of lembas? And where the
hell did Gollum get those cans of tuna fish from?
And this scene at Edoras was just plain inexcusable:
Aragorn : Everyday Frodo moves closer to Mordor.
Gandalf : How do we know Frodo is alive?
Aragorn : He called me on his Verizon cellular phone a few minutes ago,
and sent me some pictures of Minas Morgul.
Gandalf : Verizon?
Aragorn : Nobody else has coverage in that part of Middle Earth.
And if that wasn't bad enough, there was Frodo, climbing up the
mountains, constantly popping open the phone to say "Can you hear me
now?".
Whoever put the Zales logo on the one ring should be shot. Along with
the person who conceived the scene where Legolas is doing his hair with
Miss Clairol Blond #2. And the person who got the "Bud Light" neon sign
into the party scene at Edoras.
Sam is supposed to kill Shelob with a frickin' SWORD, dammit, so why did
he use a can of Raid?
Geez, they even managed product placement for things that didn't even
appear in the movie:
Eowyn : My lord, what manner of horse is this you ride?
Theoden: It is a Mustang. Fast, powerful, and beautiful, I would ride
nothing but a Mustang. Ah, we approach a stream. Ford, Mustang!
And, um, OK, so Denethor's a messy eater. But I didn't see any Carl's
Jr. franchises in the aerial shots of Minas Tirith, so I don't know
where that big drippy sandwich came from.
I thought that the first two films had been successful enough that they
would have been able to avoid this kind of thing. It's too bad, it
ruins what was otherwise an excellent trilogy.
Richard Fitzpatrick
> Previously on rec.humor.oracle.d, Richard Fitzpatrick said:
> ;
> ; Well, *of course* three should be enough. I feel quite certain
> ; Peter Jackson will never want to undertake The Silmarillion or
> ; any other such absurdity...
>
> The Hobbit.
As I said - any other such absurdity...
Richard Fitzpatrick
> Richard Fitzpatrick writes:
> >
> > Well, *of course* three should be enough. I feel quite certain
> > Peter Jackson will never want to undertake The Silmarillion or
> > any other such absurdity...
>
> How about the Hobbit? The Silmarillion can, at best, be a documentary.
Op cit.
Fierce Cookie
[snip, precious]
> Just thought I pass the info along.
Beverly almost got up to go pee just as one of the majorly spectacular
things was about to happen. She had been really "good," up until that
point, crossing her legs and making various outrageously funny facial
expressions (you can take that sort of thing in, out of the corner of your
eye, when you've already seen it once,) but she was bordering on critical.
I told her she couldn't go just then. She waited the thirty seconds
necessary, and I let her go.
It's amazing to have such power, sometimes.
Fierce Cookie
> I want to finish Discworld first, then I have the latest from Lois
> McMaster Bujold to read...
The authors of those books would no doubt hit you with a clue stick and
say, "Are you nuts?!?! Read LOTR first, and THEN read our cheap fiction."
Daniel E. Macks
> Brad Beyenhof <bbey...@SPAM.sbcglobal.SUCKS.net> wrote:
>>
>> The radio host also recommended NOT getting a large drink, sitting
>> on the aisle, and making sure you know where the nearest bathroom
>> is BEFORE the movie starts. Being closest the the center of the
>> movie, possible break #3 is the best and most essential.
>
> This shows lack of planning. Why get up at all? Buy whatever size
> drink you want. Once you're done drinking it, the cup can be used as
> a makeshift chamber pot.
What if you buy the Super Jumbo Extra Fucking Large Coke to nurse
throughout the show, but only have a smallish bladder?
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catheterized with a bendy-straw
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Henriette Kress
> Richard Fitzpatrick said:
> ; >
> ; > Sorry, I didn't read the book. I was waiting for the movie. :)
> ;
> ; Then wait no longer.
>
> I want to finish Discworld first, then I have the latest from Lois
> McMaster Bujold to read...
'nother good writer to read is Guy Gavriel Kay. Like, wow.
But: "Finish Discworld"? You can't. The minute you say "whew, that was
_that_ series of 29+ books" you'll find that there's more ov'em. Much like
xeno's paradox, in fact. They're of course all worthwile, which makes the
series rather an enormous exception among such works ...
On another note, one of the best books explaining science that I've ever
seen is "The Science of Discworld". 'course, it's a discworld novel, too.
The sequel, "TSoD: The Globe", isn't half as good, even if that, too, is
a discworld novel.
Hetta
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David Corbett
> Ian Davis (aka Bruce) was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
>>"Richard Fitzpatrick" <fit...@webone.NO.SPAM.com.au> writes:
>>
>>>To bowl a maiden over:
>>>
>>>i. Remove Cover and Extra Cover.
>>>ii. Move fine leg to square leg.
>>>
>>>Hmm, I can't seem to think of a way to finish this.
>>
>>I can't either, but in your case I am sure that "stump" will get a
>>mention somewhere.
>
> Insert stump into hole? No, that can't be it.
Don't overstep the mark, or you'll end up with no balls.
Teh (tî'pô)
to the nipples of rec.humor.oracle.d by saying:
>In article <uk74ui...@hotmail.com>, Sid <no...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The rest of this post contains spoilers of all sorts - visual elements,
>> plot, best seats in the house, what kind of popcorn to buy etc.
>
>I thought that ROTK had the potential to be a great film, but that it
>was ruined by all the product placement. I mean, whose idea was it to
>have Sam and Frodo eating Power Bars instead of lembas? And where the
>hell did Gollum get those cans of tuna fish from?
>I thought that the first two films had been successful enough that they
>would have been able to avoid this kind of thing. It's too bad, it
>ruins what was otherwise an excellent trilogy.
Yeah, putting Teh victory banquet in Hogwarts was a bit much too.
Jeffrey Kaplan
; > I want to finish Discworld first, then I have the latest from Lois
; > McMaster Bujold to read...
;
; 'nother good writer to read is Guy Gavriel Kay. Like, wow.
;
; But: "Finish Discworld"? You can't. The minute you say "whew, that was
; _that_ series of 29+ books" you'll find that there's more ov'em. Much like
Weeeel, I just finished "The Fifth Elephant" last night, and I'm
starting "The Truth" later today. I have all of the "regular" series
through "Night Watch" in paperback, plus "The Last Hero". I think I'm
only missing the juvie book "Maurice", and "Monstrous Regiment", which
is only in hardcover as of yet.
So, I only have three more to go before I move on to the rest of my
waiting stack which includes the afore mentioned item from Mrs. Bujold,
two from Jack McDevitt, a Niven/Barnes collaboration, "The Hacker
Crackdown" and "Cryptomonicon" and Tolkien.
; On another note, one of the best books explaining science that I've ever
; seen is "The Science of Discworld". 'course, it's a discworld novel, too.
It's a novel? I thought it was a textbook on a fictional universe.
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midnight in a thunderstorm, could not +possibly+ mistake me for you, is
very comfortable indeed." (Mark Vorkosigan [Lois McMaster Bujold,
"Mirror Dance"])
Jeffrey Kaplan
; Tom Harrington bravely attempted to attach 51 electrodes of knowledge
At least they decided to cut JarJaromire from the final version.
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"Legacies")
Tom Harrington
"Daniel E. Macks" <dma...@netspace.org> wrote:
> Tom Harrington <t...@pcisys.no.spam.dammit.net> said:
> > Brad Beyenhof <bbey...@SPAM.sbcglobal.SUCKS.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> The radio host also recommended NOT getting a large drink, sitting
> >> on the aisle, and making sure you know where the nearest bathroom
> >> is BEFORE the movie starts. Being closest the the center of the
> >> movie, possible break #3 is the best and most essential.
> >
> > This shows lack of planning. Why get up at all? Buy whatever size
> > drink you want. Once you're done drinking it, the cup can be used as
> > a makeshift chamber pot.
>
> What if you buy the Super Jumbo Extra Fucking Large Coke to nurse
> throughout the show, but only have a smallish bladder?
Then bring your Stadium Pal (tm):
<http://www.stadiumpal.com/stadiumpal.html>
Joseph B. W. Shane
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Superman merely shortened a war
that would have been lost
without Bugs Bunny.
Jason
<snip>
> So, I only have three more to go before I move on to the rest of my
> waiting stack which includes the afore mentioned item from Mrs. Bujold,
> two from Jack McDevitt, a Niven/Barnes collaboration, "The Hacker
> Crackdown" and "Cryptomonicon" and Tolkien.
Which Niven/Barnes? Dream Park and its sequel are very good, and I know
Barnes was with Niven and Pournelle on _Legacy of Heorot_, which I
haven't, I'm sorry to say, read. You should just read _The Hacker
Crackdown_ at work, since it's online. I laughed my ass off reading
_Cryptonomicon_, I highly recommend moving that up in your stack.
In case anyone missed it, _Empire of the East_ has been reprinted, this
time by Tor.
I'm not sure what I'm going to read next, just finished _Heaven's
Reach_, so I'm done with Uplift, and my Borders Preferred card has
expired and they're no longer running that program. Oh well, I'll see
what Christmas brings.
Jeffrey Kaplan
; > So, I only have three more to go before I move on to the rest of my
; > waiting stack which includes the afore mentioned item from Mrs. Bujold,
; > two from Jack McDevitt, a Niven/Barnes collaboration, "The Hacker
; > Crackdown" and "Cryptomonicon" and Tolkien.
;
; Which Niven/Barnes? Dream Park and its sequel are very good, and I know
"Saturn's Race". "Dream Park" is great, especially if you're into
RPGs, even more so if you play or have played LARPs. Where DP is
great, it's sequel, "The Barsoom Project" is merely quite good.
; Barnes was with Niven and Pournelle on _Legacy of Heorot_, which I
... and it's sequel, "Beowulf's Children".
; haven't, I'm sorry to say, read. You should just read _The Hacker
; Crackdown_ at work, since it's online. I laughed my ass off reading
I'm a telecommuter. I may as well read it in print and contribute a
little to the author's livelihood.
; _Cryptonomicon_, I highly recommend moving that up in your stack.
I'm +trying+ to read them in the order I got them in. But I got
sidetracked into Discworld. :)
; I'm not sure what I'm going to read next, just finished _Heaven's
; Reach_, so I'm done with Uplift, and my Borders Preferred card has
Brin? I managed to slog through "Sundiver", but that's it. I don't
like him.
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and had a vision. Either way the result was pretty much the same."
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Teh (tî'pô)
to the nipples of rec.humor.oracle.d by saying:
>;
>
>"Saturn's Race".
>"Dream Park" is great, especially if you're into
>RPGs, even more so if you play or have played LARPs. Where DP is
>great, it's sequel, "The Barsoom Project" is merely quite good.
There were three IIRC, let me just ask google...
Ah right The California Voodoo Game, it was the first one I read in
the series and probably my favorite.
>
>; Barnes was with Niven and Pournelle on _Legacy of Heorot_, which I
>... and it's sequel, "Beowulf's Children".
I thought Legacy was great, Beowulf (or Dragons of the Heorot) didn't
measure up.
Don't forget Footfall and Teh Moties (not just because of their name).
It's a shame when your favorite authors start releasing sub-par books,
there seems to be nothing to look forward too :o(
Rick Dickinson
wrote:
>Brin? I managed to slog through "Sundiver", but that's it. I don't
>like him.
Sundiver was the weakest of his Uplift novels, IMHO. And, that series
isn't as good as some of his other work -- I quite liked The Postman,
even if Costner did come along later and turn a good book into a
rather unstructured and incoherent movie, cutting too many of the
wrong parts, and leaving in too many of the parts that translated
poorly to film.
I loved the novel, didn't care for the film, and was annoyed with
myself for wanting to like the film more just because I enjoyed the
book and had been looking forward to seeing it brought to life
on-screen. Water World should have served as a warning....
- Rick "Screw dry land -- just give my 2.5 hours back" Dickinson
--
"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who
has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has
intended us to forgo their use."
-- Galileo Galilei
Fierce Cookie
> It's a shame when your favorite authors start releasing sub-par books,
> there seems to be nothing to look forward too :o(
Yah, I was at Barnes and Noble last night, and saw that Tom Clancy has a
new book out. His last one was so bad, I was only tempted for about five
seconds.
Fierce Cookie
> In case anyone missed it, _Empire of the East_ has been reprinted, this
> time by Tor.
Funny, I just packed away a bunch of books yesterday, and saw that one. I
wavered for a moment before putting it in the box. It has been a few years
since the last time I read it. I read some of the Berzerker stories years
and years ago, but I liked Empire of the East much better.
Fierce Cookie
> Which Niven/Barnes? Dream Park and its sequel are very good, and I know
> Barnes was with Niven and Pournelle on _Legacy of Heorot_, which I
> haven't, I'm sorry to say, read. You should just read _The Hacker
> Crackdown_ at work, since it's online. I laughed my ass off reading
> _Cryptonomicon_, I highly recommend moving that up in your stack.
Sorry to make two followups to the same post, but I have to comment on
this. Cryptonomicon is a masterpiece. It has become one of my "once a
year" books that I keep re-reading. I'm almost finished with Quicksilver.
It's great, and is yet another showcase for Stevenson's amazing prose, but
it probably won't appeal to as many readers. In some places it drags a
bit. If you are already a Stevenson fan, by all means get it. If you
haven't read anything by Stevenson, start with Snow Crash, then read
The Diamond Age, and Cryptonomicon, not necessarily in that order. Read
Zodiac some weekend when you have nothing better to do. Then, once you're
a fan, get started on the Baroque cycle with Quicksilver. Although it is
not really described as a sequel/prequel to Cryptonomicon, you MUST read
Crypto before starting the Baroque cycle. The characters will make a lot
more sense.
Jeffrey Kaplan
; Teh (tî'pô) attempted to infuriate me by saying:
;
; > It's a shame when your favorite authors start releasing sub-par books,
; > there seems to be nothing to look forward too :o(
;
; Yah, I was at Barnes and Noble last night, and saw that Tom Clancy has a
; new book out. His last one was so bad, I was only tempted for about five
; seconds.
Yeah. I got "The Bear And The Dragon" when it was still new. It's
still mostly unread, I only got about a quarter of the way through it.
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would you prefer Ferrets?" (Marcus Cole, B5 "Messages From Earth")
Fierce Cookie
> Previously on rec.humor.oracle.d, Fierce Cookie said:
>
> ; Teh (tî'pô) attempted to infuriate me by saying:
> ;
> ; > It's a shame when your favorite authors start releasing sub-par books,
> ; > there seems to be nothing to look forward too :o(
> ;
> ; Yah, I was at Barnes and Noble last night, and saw that Tom Clancy has a
> ; new book out. His last one was so bad, I was only tempted for about five
> ; seconds.
>
> Yeah. I got "The Bear And The Dragon" when it was still new. It's
> still mostly unread, I only got about a quarter of the way through it.
That one was great compared to Red Rabbit. Yech.
Daniel E. Macks
> In article <slrnbuf38c...@earl-grey.cloud9.net>,
> "Daniel E. Macks" <dma...@netspace.org> wrote:
>
>> Tom Harrington <t...@pcisys.no.spam.dammit.net> said:
>> > Brad Beyenhof <bbey...@SPAM.sbcglobal.SUCKS.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The radio host also recommended NOT getting a large drink, sitting
>> >> on the aisle, and making sure you know where the nearest bathroom
>> >> is BEFORE the movie starts. Being closest the the center of the
>> >> movie, possible break #3 is the best and most essential.
>> >
>> > This shows lack of planning. Why get up at all? Buy whatever size
>> > drink you want. Once you're done drinking it, the cup can be used as
>> > a makeshift chamber pot.
>>
>> What if you buy the Super Jumbo Extra Fucking Large Coke to nurse
>> throughout the show, but only have a smallish bladder?
>
> Then bring your Stadium Pal (tm):
><http://www.stadiumpal.com/stadiumpal.html>
Yay, an everyman's concom catheter!
*woop*woop*woop*thread convergence*woop*woop*woop*
http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/history/oral_histories/HawleySA/HawleySA_12-4-02.pdf
end of page 52/beginning of 53.
dan, whose bright red Siamese fighting fishies wonder if that's a good
marinade for them
Joseph B. W. Shane
> Previously on rec.humor.oracle.d, Sid said:
>
> ; The rest of this post contains spoilers of all sorts - visual elements,
> ; plot, best seats in the house, what kind of popcorn to buy etc.
I just knew that *somewhere* along this thread,
the topic was still ROTK.
So anyway
for just a whole mess of audio interviews on
JRRT,
the Ring Trilogy movies (interviews each December back to 2001)
and The Hobbit
(and Yellow Submarine, Physics and UFOs among other things),
there's this professor, Dr Bob Hieronimous,
with a radio show out of College Park, MD (Maryland, USA).
http://21stcenturyradio.com/21audioarchives.html
[Is he obnoxiously goofy? You're askin' *me*?]
--
JBW Shane
And that's the truth!
Jeffrey Kaplan
; Jeffrey Kaplan attempted to infuriate me by saying:
;
; > Previously on rec.humor.oracle.d, Fierce Cookie said:
; >
; > ; Teh (tî'pô) attempted to infuriate me by saying:
; > ;
; > ; > It's a shame when your favorite authors start releasing sub-par books,
; > ; > there seems to be nothing to look forward too :o(
; > ;
; > ; Yah, I was at Barnes and Noble last night, and saw that Tom Clancy has a
; > ; new book out. His last one was so bad, I was only tempted for about five
; > ; seconds.
; >
; > Yeah. I got "The Bear And The Dragon" when it was still new. It's
; > still mostly unread, I only got about a quarter of the way through it.
;
; That one was great compared to Red Rabbit. Yech.
I'd say "thanks for the warning", but I had already decided to stop
buying his stuff. The Jack Ryan series should have ended with "Without
Remorse", definitely with "Executive Orders".
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Jeffrey Kaplan
; ; That one was great compared to Red Rabbit. Yech.
Um, isn't "Red Rabbit" the latest Hannibal Lecter book?
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Fierce Cookie
> Previously on rec.humor.oracle.d, Jeffrey Kaplan said:
>
> ; ; That one was great compared to Red Rabbit. Yech.
>
> Um, isn't "Red Rabbit" the latest Hannibal Lecter book?
Nope. That's "Red Orangutan."
Jeffrey Kaplan
; Jeffrey Kaplan attempted to infuriate me by saying:
;
; > Previously on rec.humor.oracle.d, Jeffrey Kaplan said:
; >
; > ; ; That one was great compared to Red Rabbit. Yech.
; >
; > Um, isn't "Red Rabbit" the latest Hannibal Lecter book?
;
; Nope. That's "Red Orangutan."
The Librarian is in a Hannibal Lecter book?
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Tom Harrington
Fierce Cookie <putain...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Sorry to make two followups to the same post, but I have to comment on
> this. Cryptonomicon is a masterpiece. It has become one of my "once a
> year" books that I keep re-reading. I'm almost finished with Quicksilver.
> It's great, and is yet another showcase for Stevenson's amazing prose, but
> it probably won't appeal to as many readers. In some places it drags a
> bit. If you are already a Stevenson fan, by all means get it. If you
> haven't read anything by Stevenson, start with Snow Crash, then read
> The Diamond Age, and Cryptonomicon, not necessarily in that order. Read
> Zodiac some weekend when you have nothing better to do. Then, once you're
> a fan, get started on the Baroque cycle with Quicksilver. Although it is
> not really described as a sequel/prequel to Cryptonomicon, you MUST read
> Crypto before starting the Baroque cycle. The characters will make a lot
> more sense.
Quicksilver drags a _bit_? I'm something like 650 pages into it right
now, and starting to wonder why I should bother continuing. I almost
never give up in the middle of a book, but this one is just sapping my
will to live. Generally I give the author the benefit of the doubt in
the hope that it will seem worth it eventually, and generally that
scheme works out. But Quicksilver is so damned long that it's hard to
maintain that attitude. I thought Cryptonomicon was great, and Snow
Crash is one of my favorites. Quicksilver, I'm starting to wonder why
everyone seems to like it so much.
Screwtape
>Previously on rec.humor.oracle.d, Fierce Cookie said:
>
>; Jeffrey Kaplan attempted to infuriate me by saying:
>;
>; > Previously on rec.humor.oracle.d, Jeffrey Kaplan said:
>; >
>; > ; ; That one was great compared to Red Rabbit. Yech.
>; >
>; > Um, isn't "Red Rabbit" the latest Hannibal Lecter book?
>;
>; Nope. That's "Red Orangutan."
>
>The Librarian is in a Hannibal Lecter book?
"Oook." [1]
[1] "I'm your worst nightmare. An ape with a badge."
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>
> So anyway
> for just a whole mess of audio interviews on
> JRRT,
> the Ring Trilogy movies (interviews each December back to 2001)
> and The Hobbit
Joseph, why do you do those weird line lengths? Did you learn to type on a
manual typewriter?
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lengths, IYKWIM...
René Torenstra
<snip>
>So, I only have three more to go before I move on to the rest of my
>waiting stack which includes the afore mentioned item from Mrs. Bujold,
>two from Jack McDevitt, a Niven/Barnes collaboration, "The Hacker
>Crackdown" and "Cryptomonicon" and Tolkien.
>
<snip>
The Cryptomonicon? Wasn't that a book by the mad Arab Abdul Alhazred?
I heard he got torn apart by invisible claws in broad daylight because
he wrote that. Or read it. I don't remember.
René Torenstra
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