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CW

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May 10, 2005, 10:45:43 AM5/10/05
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After the passing of Pope John Paul II, the Cardinals had the duty to go
through the late Pope's personal effects. One of the Cardinals noted that
there had once been an inscription on the inside of the Pope's skull cap.
The inscription was obviously very old and much obscured from wear and the
passage of time.

Curious, the Cardinals sent the skull cap for study at the Vatican's
antiquities department. Experts applied themselves to the task utilizing
the latest in computer technology and encryption analysis.

They found that the inscription was in the ancient Hebrew language and after
much work, they cracked the code and translated the text.

The results were handed to the perplexed Cardinal who read:

Benny & Malka
October 18, 1937
Krakow, Poland

Victor J. Perez-Nunez

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May 17, 2005, 6:49:13 AM5/17/05
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And the joke is... ???

Seriously, what is funny about it? Maybe because I am non-jewish, I find
it rather very moving given the Pope's experiences in Krakow. That is,
he kept the Kippah for 68 years as a reminder not only of God but also
about our older brothers.

Victor

fred

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May 17, 2005, 7:26:12 PM5/17/05
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Victor J. Perez-Nunez wrote:
> And the joke is... ???
>
> Seriously, what is funny about it? Maybe because I am non-jewish, I
find
> it rather very moving given the Pope's experiences in Krakow. That
is,
> he kept the Kippah for 68 years as a reminder not only of God but
also
> about our older brothers.

The imprint indicates that the kipa was given to the guests at "Benny &
Malka's" wedding. It is customary in some circles here (although
probably not in preWar Poland) to provide kipas, as a souvenir but also
because the guests are unlikely to be wearing one of their own for the
ceremony. They tend to pile up in a drawer somewhere, to be pulled out
when there is an overflow of seder guests. Less likely to be a feature
at a wedding where the guests wear kipas all the time.

So the joke is cute, if not uproarious, and intended to be neither
topical nor judgemental.

Victor J. Perez-Nunez

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May 19, 2005, 10:15:39 PM5/19/05
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Thanks Fred. Yes, now I get the punch line...and yes, it is cute. :-)

Victor

CW

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May 20, 2005, 11:58:45 AM5/20/05
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Victor,

The late pope is not the object of the joke. The joke is that all of this
commotion and technology was deployed to discover a very simple human thing.

CW

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fred

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May 23, 2005, 11:01:29 AM5/23/05
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CW wrote:
> Victor,
>
> The late pope is not the object of the joke. The joke is that all of
this
> commotion and technology was deployed to discover a very simple human
thing.

And partly the Jewish fascination with the fact that a Catholic has to
attain
the rank of cardinal or pope to wear a kipa as a badge of office, which
every
"simple Jew" can and should wear as a matter of course.

kori

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May 23, 2005, 12:04:34 PM5/23/05
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>
> Benny & Malka
> October 18, 1937
> Krakow, Poland
>
>
> So the joke is cute, if not uproarious, and intended to be neither
>topical nor judgemental.

I thought this was hilarious. But it becomes tendentious to have to
explain/defend/translate Jewish life to others. Perhaps the moderator
should require new members to undergo "conversion" to Jewish Humor
before joining. Or prove that they have read and understood at least
one Jackie Mason book ;-))

Ross Bernheim

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May 24, 2005, 6:26:51 PM5/24/05
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kori <kor...@gmail.com> wrote:

I thought there were only two branches of Masons. Now you tell me there
is a third branch. The Jackie Masons!

Jewish Masons, who'da thunk it?

Ross


Nothing screams poor workmanship like wrinkles in the duct tape.

Jack

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May 26, 2005, 6:32:36 PM5/26/05
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What's funny?
It's funny to those in this group.
That's why it's called Jewish Humor.
The sign at the door plainly says "...humor.jewish".
Should there be one of those warning signs at the door, "If You Are Not
Jewish, It May Not Be Funny"?
Just smile, then if you must, shake your head in puzzlement...and enjoy
the perspective of others. You have entered a room where friends share
stories from that common perspective. They understand.

"Victor J. Perez-Nunez" <vjp...@mitre.org> wrote in message
news:d62ueg$5p9$1...@newslocal.mitre.org...

And the joke is... ???

Seriously, what is funny about it? Maybe because I am non-jewish, I
find it rather very moving given the Pope's experiences in Krakow.

~~~snip~~~


Tom

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May 27, 2005, 9:36:36 PM5/27/05
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I'm a gentile. I got the joke, as I get most of the jokes here. I
haven't read any Jackie Mason books, but I've seen him on TV.

So why does a gentile subscribe to a Jewish newsgroup?
Because you have some of the best jokes around, that's why.

Skid Schermerhorn

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May 29, 2005, 12:13:06 AM5/29/05
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AMEN.

A submarine Episcopalian (Comes up twice a year,
Christmas and Easter.)

Marvin

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May 29, 2005, 6:50:46 AM5/29/05
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Do I have to like any of his stuff? I understand what he says, but I don't like it at all.

jhs...@aol.com

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May 29, 2005, 7:33:58 PM5/29/05
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You're of course very welcome to the newsgroup. Doesn't humour have to
be one of the best ways of improving relationships and reducing
misunderstanding between different groups of people? Or should it be
between groups of different people? John

Onkel Petey

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May 30, 2005, 11:51:10 AM5/30/05
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"Tom" <t.wy...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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I agree, That is why I signed up!


maxine in ri

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May 31, 2005, 7:24:58 PM5/31/05
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On Sun, 29 May 2005 06:50:46 EDT, Marvin <phys...@cloud9.net>
connected the dots and wrote:

~kori wrote:
~>> Benny & Malka
~>> October 18, 1937
~>> Krakow, Poland
~>>
~>>
~>>So the joke is cute, if not uproarious, and intended to be neither
~>>topical nor judgemental.
~>
~>
~> I thought this was hilarious. But it becomes tendentious to have
to
~> explain/defend/translate Jewish life to others. Perhaps the
moderator
~> should require new members to undergo "conversion" to Jewish Humor
~> before joining. Or prove that they have read and understood at
least
~> one Jackie Mason book ;-))
~>
~Do I have to like any of his stuff? I understand what he says, but I


don't like it at all.

You _have_ to breath, eat, and excrete. Sleep is semi-optional, as
long as you don't mind the hallucinations. But humor is personal,
made up of the events of your life that give resonance to it's forms.
If you don't like Jackie Mason, he'll survive. Don't let it worry
you. It sure won't worry him.

;-)
maxine in ri

Tommy

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May 31, 2005, 7:31:13 PM5/31/05
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<jhs...@aol.com> You're of course very welcome to the newsgroup. Doesn't
humour have to
> be one of the best ways of improving relationships and reducing
> misunderstanding between different groups of people? Or should it be
> between groups of different people? John

You could say 'between groups of differing people' and leave it open like
that :-))

jhlowy

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Jun 2, 2005, 12:58:38 AM6/2/05
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"Marvin" <phys...@cloud9.net> wrote in message
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You don't have to like. You also don't have to read it and complain about
it. Just forget it. JHL

Leon

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Jun 2, 2005, 11:53:22 AM6/2/05
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> "Marvin" wrote

> | Do I have to like any of his stuff? I understand what he says, but I
> don't like it at all.

And JH responded


> You don't have to like. You also don't have to read it and complain about
> it. Just forget it.


As a matter of fact, Marvin, there is a provision in the Patriot's Act that
requires you to like it. Either that or Guantanamo, fella.

Leon

Phil

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Jun 4, 2005, 7:47:41 AM6/4/05
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Phil put down his fish-fork and Postulatered...

"Since when has the Patriarch Act required compulsory liking of the Pope's
Kipper?? I reckon smoked kipper is an aquired taste, so this sound like more
of the Papal Bull to me!"

Leon <words...@att.net> wrote in message
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:
: > "Marvin" wrote

:

lev...@uwm.edu

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Jun 4, 2005, 2:20:36 PM6/4/05
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Oye Vey, this is awful stuff. Please keep it up.

lenny from Milwaukee

One moment - - - required joke:

question: When is a door not a door

answer: when it is a jar.

Leon

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Jun 4, 2005, 10:54:53 PM6/4/05
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"Phil" <phi...@mapsonslingshot.co.nz> wrote in message
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> Phil put down his fish-fork and Postulatered...
>
> "Since when has the Patriarch Act required compulsory liking of the Pope's
> Kipper?? I reckon smoked kipper is an aquired taste, so this sound like
> more
> of the Papal Bull to me!"

Phil, you are somewhat in the dark about this thread. When I threatened
Marvin with Guantanamo, it was a typo. I meant Guano. One of the
little-known facts about Mayor Giuliani is the fact that he put pigeon
attractant on the statues of people who were more important than he was,
resulting in a more rapid accumulation of guano. Since the erstwhile mayor
is now a security consultant, he is deeply interested in the Patriots Act
and its ramifications. Hence the use of guano to punish transgressors (and
Michael Jackson).

Leon

Dick Adams

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Jun 5, 2005, 7:30:31 AM6/5/05
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>> "Since when has the Patriarch Act required compulsory liking of
>> the Pope's Kipper?? I reckon smoked kipper is an aquired taste,
>> so this sound like more of the Papal Bull to me!"

> Phil, you are somewhat in the dark about this thread. When I threatened
> Marvin with Guantanamo, it was a typo. I meant Guano. One of the
> little-known facts about Mayor Giuliani is the fact that he put pigeon
> attractant on the statues of people who were more important than he was,
> resulting in a more rapid accumulation of guano. Since the erstwhile mayor
> is now a security consultant, he is deeply interested in the Patriots Act
> and its ramifications. Hence the use of guano to punish transgressors (and
> Michael Jackson).

The above should win an award for the cleverest disingenuous remark
since a man calling home at 4am and saying to his wife "Don't pay
the ransom, I've escaped."

Dick

fred

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Jun 7, 2005, 8:15:02 PM6/7/05
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Leon wrote:

Since the erstwhile mayor
> is now a security consultant, he is deeply interested in the Patriots Act
> and its ramifications.

"Patriots Act"? Is that the one that legislates that Tom Brady's arm
is
always going forward before he fumbles?

John Robertson

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Jun 24, 2005, 6:47:24 AM6/24/05
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ET TU BRUTUS, I AGREE EVEN WE GOYEM HAVE HUMOUR \ HUMOR
We goyem are not so thick that we cant understand Jewish humour I love it
.Jews laugh at them selves too which is a sign of a mature sense of humour .
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fred

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Jun 25, 2005, 12:03:05 AM6/25/05
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John Robertson wrote:
> ET TU BRUTUS, I AGREE EVEN WE GOYEM HAVE HUMOUR \ HUMOR
> We goyem are not so thick that we cant understand Jewish humour I love it
> .Jews laugh at them selves too which is a sign of a mature sense of humour.

More then just laugh - we hopefully learn from our laughter. It's
easier to accept having our mistakes pointed out to us if the lesson is
couched in humorous terms.

> <jhs...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1117272545.7...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
> >
> > Tom wrote:
> >> kori wrote:
> >> >> Benny & Malka
> >> >> October 18, 1937
> >> >> Krakow, Poland
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>So the joke is cute, if not uproarious, and intended to be neither
> >> >>topical nor judgemental.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I thought this was hilarious. But it becomes tendentious to have to
> >> > explain/defend/translate Jewish life to others. Perhaps the moderator
> >> > should require new members to undergo "conversion" to Jewish Humor
> >> > before joining. Or prove that they have read and understood at least
> >> > one Jackie Mason book ;-))

I think a lot of Jews could use some explanations as well. And since,
as I pointed out, the jokes have a purpose, discussion wouldn't hurt
either.

(And, BTW, the word is "tedious". "Tendentious" is not a supersized
version of "tedious", it means something quite different.


> >> >
> >>
> >> I'm a gentile. I got the joke, as I get most of the jokes here. I
> >> haven't read any Jackie Mason books, but I've seen him on TV.
> >>
> >> So why does a gentile subscribe to a Jewish newsgroup?
> >> Because you have some of the best jokes around, that's why.
> >
> >
> > You're of course very welcome to the newsgroup. Doesn't humour have to
> > be one of the best ways of improving relationships and reducing
> > misunderstanding between different groups of people? Or should it be
> > between groups of different people? John

Some jokes would requirte a high degree of sophisticated knowledge of
Judaism to fully appreciate, others less so. So the usefulness of
explanations will vary greatly, but whatever the result, please keep
reading - "it could't hoit".

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