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SirT...@yahoo.com

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May 21, 2012, 9:40:55 PM5/21/12
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New heraldry graphics can be difficult to locate.

Just thought interested parties might want to know there is a new set of tall shield graphics for those using CorelDraw. This location shows how heraldry and genealogy go together and the graphics.

Heraldry.mysite.com

Gary

gregs talkin

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May 22, 2012, 3:00:28 PM5/22/12
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Very nice web site Gary, thanks for posting. The first computer
graphics heraldic artist that I saw using the gradient effect was the
late Don Suttie Smith: he used Corel Daw 9 at the time. Currently I
have Adobe Illustrator and it's a great program.

I'm assuming that's your work on the site; it's very good. Are the
images a sort of lip art from Corel? Perhaps you can elaborate a bit.

Thanks again,
greg

Gary

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May 22, 2012, 4:43:45 PM5/22/12
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Greg,

Thank you for the compliment and glad to make the acquaintance of
another PC heraldry artist. Some say there isn't such a thing but
when considering the same amount of time studying heraldry but using
different tools perhaps we might be in some way. The artist by hand
being fully appreciated by myself I've noticed they hardly answer an e-
mail often.

I began when Armorial Gold (AG) was a couple hundred Mb on CD and
before that decorating bitmaps with MS Paint. Never give up. After
figuring out how to manipulate the AG backgrounds for mantle coloring
I started putting together my own package in late 2010 and just
finished up this past week. There's no way to share the continuing
work to original graphics editing, however, being a user of
Illustrator you probably understand that kind of updating. When one
is proud of the work they’ve done they do want to tell.

Package contains: 21 RTA Color Matching System files, 6 steel helmet
styles; 8 distinct two-color scrolls; over 880 tall shields of color
and variety (11 additional blank shapes); 13 stars; 16 crosses; 23
ermine type; 42 outline colors of 3 coat arms templates; a set of 14
multi-color tassels; 15 AG mantle diagrams matched to RTA scrolls and
33 pages box and line swatch pointers for Armorial Gold helmets.
Bonus: 3 full-mantle Azure (blue) and Or (gold) AG color matching
diagrams.

The issue using any program is that others have to use a similar one
or be able to import the graphic output. I’m still working on this
one but did discover a location where CorelDraw9 is listed for $79.
That's pretty cheap for a front running graphics editing program.

That’s where it is for now but will update as new challenges are
crossed over.

Gary Smith


for Nicolai

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May 22, 2012, 6:43:25 PM5/22/12
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Here is one created with Illustrator,
one anchor point at the time........

http://heraldik-wiki.de/images/Wilke.jpg

;)

Gary

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May 22, 2012, 6:54:04 PM5/22/12
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Nicolai,

I'd say that is a contemporary rendering.

Gary

Tim Powys-Lybbe

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May 23, 2012, 10:55:37 AM5/23/12
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On 22 May at 21:43, Gary <SirT...@Yahoo.com> wrote:

<snip for brevity>

> The issue using any program is that others have to use a similar one
> or be able to import the graphic output. I’m still working on this
> one but did discover a location where CorelDraw9 is listed for $79.
> That's pretty cheap for a front running graphics editing program.

Assuming your images are created using a vector graphics program, I have
yet to find a vector program that will not import PDF files. So I would
recommend using PDF as a means of exchange.

--
Tim Powys-Lybbe t...@powys.org
for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/

for Nicolai

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May 23, 2012, 11:28:26 AM5/23/12
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YES YES ;)

for Nicolai

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May 23, 2012, 11:32:54 AM5/23/12
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Yes Tim,
Illustrator is a Vector based graphic!

...but I remember something, that if you import a CorelDraw graphic
into Illustrator,
regardless as PDF or Vector,
you will get too many, impossible to edit, anchor points!

It most likely will look like a zick-zack sewing machine!
:(

Outis

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May 23, 2012, 11:54:29 AM5/23/12
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On May 23, 4:55 pm, Tim Powys-Lybbe <t...@powys.org> wrote:
The problem with PDF is that there exists many different versions.
It's fine for viewing, but if you want to import/reuse other people's
works, PDF can mess up the layer structure.

For sharing elements, most exchanges would use EPS or AI. SVG is also
an option, but the compatibility isn't quite there yet.

Gary

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May 23, 2012, 11:53:21 AM5/23/12
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I've noticed that AG graphics sometimes have an excess of edit points
(nodes) in the WMF export file. These files also have flat colors and
not gradients.

It'd be nice to do exports from CorelDraw into a universal format.
Can any imagine buying a telephone but you can only speak with others
buying the same type?

Gary

gregs talkin

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May 23, 2012, 5:59:47 PM5/23/12
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That's really a beautiful peice of work. Thanks for that.

On graphics, I took a course on Illustrator and saving graphics for
web publishing, jpegs work best becasue of file size. PDFs of vector
graphics are best for printing because of the enhanced detail. Don
smith would send both a print and a jpeg. With Illustrator a pen tool
is the best for drawing; connecting anchor points, and the the smooth
tool can be used to correct your lines.

It's a great program.

Gary

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May 24, 2012, 5:18:20 AM5/24/12
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Greg,

I left out three letters to make that post understandable--CDR. The only export that can be found preserving the gradients of CorelDraw are bitmaps such as BMP, JPEG and multitudes.

What's best is a universal "Save As" rather than export and my mistake on that discussion point.

Gary

Gary

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May 24, 2012, 10:13:07 AM5/24/12
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An old CorelDraw8 heraldry helmet with gradient shading:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RoundTableArms/

Gary

Gary

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May 26, 2012, 6:16:13 AM5/26/12
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Steps necessary to bevel a 3D shield explained:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RoundTableArms/

Gary

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