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Martin Goldstraw

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Oct 8, 2008, 9:10:04 AM10/8/08
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Does anyone have access to "Notes and Queries" Volume 179, Number 12,
1940 ?

I have for a long time been creating graphic images of armorial
bearings with squirrels as charges and have been making notes on same.
I am aware that there is an article entitled The Squirrel in Heraldry
by "R. E. F" in that publication and I don't want to reinvent the
wheel.

Thanks in anticipation.

Martin
http://cheshire-heraldry.org.uk/weblog


Greg

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Oct 8, 2008, 10:48:52 AM10/8/08
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Martin Goldstraw

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Oct 8, 2008, 11:37:39 AM10/8/08
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Greg,
I am already aware of that site however it requires a fee to view!
I had hoped (and still do) that our fellow armorists will have
recourse to a cheaper (i.e. free) resourse. This hobby is expensive
enough without having to pay to read an article of just a few pages in
length which is over sixty eight years old. Too many of my family are
Scots to fall foul of that one ;-)

Martin
http://cheshire-heraldry.org.uk/weblog

Martin Goldstraw

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Oct 8, 2008, 11:54:34 AM10/8/08
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On Oct 8, 4:37 pm, Martin Goldstraw <heraldryad...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Oct 8, 3:48 pm, Greg <scoti...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 8 Oct, 06:10, Martin Goldstraw <heraldryad...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Does anyone have access to "Notes and Queries" Volume 179, Number 12,
> > > 1940  ?
>
> > > I have for a long time been creating graphic images of armorial
> > > bearings with squirrels as charges and have been making notes on same.
> > > I am aware that there is an article entitled The Squirrel in Heraldry
> > > by "R. E. F" in that publication and I don't want to reinvent the
> > > wheel.
>
> > > Thanks in anticipation.
>
> > > Martinhttp://cheshire-heraldry.org.uk/weblog
>
> > You can find it here:http://nq.oxfordjournals.org/content/vol179/issue12/index.dtl
>
> Greg,
> I am already aware of that site however it requires a fee to view!
> I had hoped (and still do) that our fellow armorists will have
> recourse to a cheaper (i.e. free) resource. This hobby is expensive

> enough without having to pay to read an article of just a few pages in
> length which is over sixty eight years old. Too many of my family are
> Scots to fall foul of that one ;-)
>
> Martinhttp://cheshire-heraldry.org.uk/weblog- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

It is as well that I did not succumb to the temptation to open the
purse! I have been greatly assisted elsewhere and received a complete
hand typed copy of the article in question. It didn't take too long to
transcribe as it consists of approximately fifty (yes, 50) words!

I had hoped to be very grateful to the mysterious "R.E.F." for his
contribution and assistance in my project ... I don't think I need
trouble myself further with his missive!


Martin
http://cheshire-heraldry.org.uk/weblog

gra...@gmilne.demon.co.uk

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Oct 8, 2008, 12:59:15 PM10/8/08
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On 8 Oct, 16:54, Martin Goldstraw <heraldryad...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Oct 8, 4:37 pm, Martin Goldstraw <heraldryad...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 8, 3:48 pm, Greg <scoti...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > On 8 Oct, 06:10, Martin Goldstraw <heraldryad...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Does anyone have access to "Notes and Queries" Volume 179, Number 12,
> > > > 1940  ?
>
> > > > I have for a long time been creating graphic images of armorial
> > > > bearings with squirrels as charges and have been making notes on same.
> > > > I am aware that there is an article entitled The Squirrel in Heraldry
> > > > by "R. E. F" in that publication and I don't want to reinvent the
> > > > wheel.
>
> > > > Thanks in anticipation.
>
> > > > Martinhttp://cheshire-heraldry.org.uk/weblog
>
> > > You can find it here:http://nq.oxfordjournals.org/content/vol179/issue12/index.dtl
>
> > Greg,
> > I am already aware of that site however it requires a fee to view!
> > I had hoped (and still do) that our fellow armorists will have
> > recourse to a cheaper (i.e. free) resource. This hobby is expensive
> > enough without having to pay to read an article of just a few pages in
> > length which is over sixty eight years old. Too many of my family are
> > Scots to fall foul of that one ;-)
>
> > Martinhttp://cheshire-heraldry.org.uk/weblog-Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> It is as well that I did not succumb to the temptation to open the
> purse! I have been greatly assisted elsewhere and received a complete
> hand typed copy of the article in question. It didn't take too long to
> transcribe as it consists of approximately fifty (yes, 50) words!
>
> I had hoped to be very grateful to the mysterious "R.E.F." for his
> contribution and assistance in my project ... I don't think I need
> trouble myself further with his missive!
>
> Martinhttp://cheshire-heraldry.org.uk/weblog- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Perhaps there is a longer article squirrelled away somewhere - but
don't go nuts looking for it.

Andrew Chaplin

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Oct 8, 2008, 2:46:13 PM10/8/08
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On Oct 8, 11:54 am, Martin Goldstraw <heraldryad...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Oct 8, 4:37 pm, Martin Goldstraw <heraldryad...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 8, 3:48 pm, Greg <scoti...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > On 8 Oct, 06:10, Martin Goldstraw <heraldryad...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Does anyone have access to "Notes and Queries" Volume 179, Number 12,
> > > > 1940  ?
>
> > > > I have for a long time been creating graphic images of armorial
> > > > bearings with squirrels as charges and have been making notes on same.
> > > > I am aware that there is an article entitled The Squirrel in Heraldry
> > > > by "R. E. F" in that publication and I don't want to reinvent the
> > > > wheel.
>
> > > > Thanks in anticipation.
>
> > > > Martinhttp://cheshire-heraldry.org.uk/weblog
>
> > > You can find it here:http://nq.oxfordjournals.org/content/vol179/issue12/index.dtl
>
> > Greg,
> > I am already aware of that site however it requires a fee to view!
> > I had hoped (and still do) that our fellow armorists will have
> > recourse to a cheaper (i.e. free) resource. This hobby is expensive
> > enough without having to pay to read an article of just a few pages in
> > length which is over sixty eight years old. Too many of my family are
> > Scots to fall foul of that one ;-)
>
> > Martinhttp://cheshire-heraldry.org.uk/weblog-Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> It is as well that I did not succumb to the temptation to open the
> purse! I have been greatly assisted elsewhere and received a complete
> hand typed copy of the article in question. It didn't take too long to
> transcribe as it consists of approximately fifty (yes, 50) words!
>
> I had hoped to be very grateful to the mysterious "R.E.F." for his
> contribution and assistance in my project ... I don't think I need
> trouble myself further with his missive!
>
> Martinhttp://cheshire-heraldry.org.uk/weblog

It has no squirrels so far, but If you ever go after other fauna, the
CHA's search page allows you to search for charges (lots of bear and
beavers in Canadian heraldry). http://www.gg.ca/heraldry/pub-reg/reg-search-adv.asp?lang=e
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO

Greg

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Oct 8, 2008, 2:59:52 PM10/8/08
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On 8 Oct, 06:10, Martin Goldstraw <heraldryad...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Sorry, but you said: "Does anyone have access to "Notes and Queries"


Volume 179, Number 12, 1940 ? "

>"I am already aware of that site"

Had I known that I certainly wouldn't have suggested it.
I would think that a subscription to back issues might be worth your
while.

Nathaniel Taylor

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Oct 8, 2008, 4:03:48 PM10/8/08
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> On 8 Oct, 06:10, Martin Goldstraw <heraldryad...@yahoo.com> wrote
>
> > Does anyone have access to "Notes and Queries" Volume 179, Number 12,
> > 1940  ?
> >
> > I have for a long time been creating graphic images of armorial
> > bearings with squirrels as charges and have been making notes on same.
> > I am aware that there is an article entitled The Squirrel in Heraldry
> > by "R. E. F" in that publication and I don't want to reinvent the
> > wheel.

This is a single-paragraph shorty (p. 208) and reads as follows in its
entirety:

THE SQUIRREL IN HERALDRY. -- A query on this subject appeared in a
recent _Intermediaire_. M. du Chevron, replying (15 Apr., 1940),
remarks that the squirrel is more frequent in German than in French
coats-of-arms, but recalls that Fouquet bore "d'argent a un ecureuil
rampant de gueules." R.E.F.

I have omitted the French accents in the title of the periodical
referred to, and in the blazon.

Nat Taylor
a genealogist's sketchbook:
http://www.nltaylor.net/sketchbook/

Turenne

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Oct 8, 2008, 5:29:15 PM10/8/08
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Nat Taylor wrote:

>......but recalls that Fouquet bore "d'argent a un ecureuil rampant de gueules." R.E.F.

'Fouquet' was French for squirrel in old West France patois.

Richard Lichten

Nathaniel Taylor

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Oct 8, 2008, 6:22:20 PM10/8/08
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In article
<df0ef930-2d62-4e2c...@f40g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
Turenne <rick.l...@virgin.net> wrote:

Indeed. I just performed a Jannequin motet in which the singers emulate
bird songs, in which the word 'fouquet' figures prominently among
gibberish (presumably squirrels being a frequent subject of avian
conversation).

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