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Jason

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Jun 25, 2007, 7:27:53 PM6/25/07
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I'm going to be living in my fraternity house next quarter (I'm in
college, and its off campus). I want a small gun safe to keep my
handguns in but I dont have room for a big safe and bolting a small
safe to the ground could pose issues with the house. I think the best
option is to get something that will not be noticible. Nobody in the
house will know I have the guns there so as long as they are out of
sight and somehow locked it will be fine. I remember about 2 years ago
seeing a small safe that was built into a wooden bench. It was very
discrete and while the bench top is closed up it looks like a thick
solid chair that would go at the end of your bed but if you pull the
top open, its got a safe inside. Does anyone know where I can find
this? I've googled "discrete safe" "hidden safe" etc and nothings
popped up.

Thanks guys.

Jason


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chasw

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Jun 26, 2007, 5:12:53 AM6/26/07
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Jason: Anything small would be too portable and not secure. To be secure,
it has to be disguised, as you point out. Look for a piano bench that is
small enough to look like a nightstand. All piano benches have a "hidden"
compartment under the top, big enough to store several handguns. With a
little bit of cleverness, you could install a little lock and turn it around
backward so the keyhole was facing the wall. - CW

"Jason" <> wrote in message news:f5pj1p$sue$1...@grapevine.wam.umd.edu...
# I'm going to be living in my fraternity house next quarter (I'm in
# college, and its off campus). I want a small gun safe to keep my
# handguns in but I dont have room for a big safe and bolting a small
# safe to the ground could pose issues with the house. I think the best
# option is to get something that will not be noticible. Nobody in the
# house will know I have the guns there so as long as they are out of
# sight and somehow locked it will be fine. I remember about 2 years ago
# seeing a small safe that was built into a wooden bench. It was very
# discrete and while the bench top is closed up it looks like a thick
# solid chair that would go at the end of your bed but if you pull the
# top open, its got a safe inside. Does anyone know where I can find
# this? I've googled "discrete safe" "hidden safe" etc and nothings
# popped up.
#
# Thanks guys.
#
# Jason
#
snip

Al Patrick

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Jun 26, 2007, 5:13:04 AM6/26/07
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Jason wrote:
# I've googled "discrete safe" "hidden safe" etc and nothings
# popped up.

Jason,

I googled hidden safe without the quotes and got 11,200,000 hits.

Someone once told me the very best "security" you can get is secrecy.

Someone else was discussing the killing of some "protected" species of
bird that was a predator to a friend's flock and recommended the "three
S" method of getting rid of the problem.

Shoot
Shovel & Most folks tell on themselves.
Shut up!

There are lots of ways to conceal a weapon in a home, but don't expect
any of them to be "fool proof" for someone who suspects its presence and
really wants to find it.

Wall safe covered with a picture, towel, curtain, etc.
Floor safes covered by a rug, stove, refrigerator, couch, etc.

It really will depend a lot on your roommates. If they like to clean
and rearrange furniture you have more of a problem.

To name them all is to tell the bad guys where to look. THINK. Find a
place that suits YOU. Then, SHUT UP about it. Tell one friend. He/she
tells three, each of them tell three and next thing you know everybody
knows, but you just don't know they know, because YOU only told ONE
person whom you really trusted!

The best place to hid it might be a place that is a bit difficult to get
to. Most people are too lazy to do much work to find out your business.
Just don't put it where someone can stumble into it accidentally.

Hope this helps.

D Rackley

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Jun 26, 2007, 5:13:09 AM6/26/07
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Buy a cheap safe, fill it with bricks and leave it where someone would find
and steal it first....


"Jason" <jasonb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:f5pj1p$sue$1...@grapevine.wam.umd.edu...
# I'm going to be living in my fraternity house next quarter (I'm in
# college, and its off campus). I want a small gun safe to keep my
# handguns in but I dont have room for a big safe and bolting a small
# safe to the ground could pose issues with the house. I think the best
# option is to get something that will not be noticible. Nobody in the
# house will know I have the guns there so as long as they are out of
# sight and somehow locked it will be fine. I remember about 2 years ago
# seeing a small safe that was built into a wooden bench. It was very
# discrete and while the bench top is closed up it looks like a thick
# solid chair that would go at the end of your bed but if you pull the
# top open, its got a safe inside. Does anyone know where I can find
# this? I've googled "discrete safe" "hidden safe" etc and nothings
# popped up.
#
# Thanks guys.
#

# Jason

Herb Leong

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Jun 26, 2007, 5:13:13 AM6/26/07
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In article <f5pj1p$sue$1...@grapevine.wam.umd.edu>,
Jason <jasonb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
#I'm going to be living in my fraternity house next quarter (I'm in
#college, and its off campus). I want a small gun safe to keep my
#handguns in but I dont have room for a big safe and bolting a small
#safe to the ground could pose issues with the house. I think the best
#option is to get something that will not be noticible. Nobody in the
#house will know I have the guns there so as long as they are out of
#sight and somehow locked it will be fine. I remember about 2 years ago
#seeing a small safe that was built into a wooden bench. It was very
#discrete and while the bench top is closed up it looks like a thick
#solid chair that would go at the end of your bed but if you pull the
#top open, its got a safe inside. Does anyone know where I can find
#this? I've googled "discrete safe" "hidden safe" etc and nothings
#popped up.

http://www.amsecusa.com/gun-safe-HC1854.htm


/herb

Nick Hull

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Jun 26, 2007, 8:04:53 PM6/26/07
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In article <f5pj1p$sue$1...@grapevine.wam.umd.edu>,
Jason <jasonb...@hotmail.com> wrote:

# I'm going to be living in my fraternity house next quarter (I'm in
# college, and its off campus). I want a small gun safe to keep my
# handguns in but I dont have room for a big safe and bolting a small
# safe to the ground could pose issues with the house. I think the best
# option is to get something that will not be noticible.

How about a safe inside your locked suitcase? The suitcase could
be loaded with bricks and a (tricky) mootion sensor alarm. All
college people have to have a suitcase handy. You want an old,
used , decrepit suitcase not worth stealing and instantly
recognizable from a distance.
.

Lawrence Glasser

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Jun 26, 2007, 8:05:05 PM6/26/07
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Jason wrote:
# I'm going to be living in my fraternity house next quarter (I'm in
# college, and its off campus). I want a small gun safe to keep my
# handguns in but I dont have room for a big safe and bolting a small
# safe to the ground could pose issues with the house. I think the best
# option is to get something that will not be noticible. Nobody in the
# house will know I have the guns there so as long as they are out of
# sight and somehow locked it will be fine. I remember about 2 years ago
# seeing a small safe that was built into a wooden bench. It was very
# discrete and while the bench top is closed up it looks like a thick
# solid chair that would go at the end of your bed but if you pull the
# top open, its got a safe inside. Does anyone know where I can find
# this? I've googled "discrete safe" "hidden safe" etc and nothings
# popped up.

Could something like this be mounted somewhere?

http://www.titangunvault.com

Larry

200...@gmail.com

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Jun 26, 2007, 8:05:13 PM6/26/07
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On Jun 26, 2:13 am, h...@urusei.net (Herb Leong) wrote:
> ...

yea a decoy safe is a neat idea

you would always do like rusty shackleford and hollow out books for
your pistols make sure they look the part (campus used stickers on
them)

WillG

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Jun 26, 2007, 8:05:27 PM6/26/07
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Herb Leong wrote:
# In article <f5pj1p$sue$1...@grapevine.wam.umd.edu>,
# Jason <jasonb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
# #I'm going to be living in my fraternity house next quarter (I'm in
# #college, and its off campus). I want a small gun safe to keep my
# #handguns in but I dont have room for a big safe and bolting a small
# #safe to the ground could pose issues with the house. I think the best
# #option is to get something that will not be noticible. Nobody in the
# #house will know I have the guns there so as long as they are out of
# #sight and somehow locked it will be fine. I remember about 2 years ago
# #seeing a small safe that was built into a wooden bench. It was very
# #discrete and while the bench top is closed up it looks like a thick
# #solid chair that would go at the end of your bed but if you pull the
# #top open, its got a safe inside. Does anyone know where I can find
# #this? I've googled "discrete safe" "hidden safe" etc and nothings
# #popped up.
#
# http://www.amsecusa.com/gun-safe-HC1854.htm
#
#
# /herb
#
#

Although any safe is better than no safe at all, a portable safe
such as this one can be loaded onto a pickup or into a SUV by
one guy with a handtruck. The entry into it can then be achieved
elsewhere. Since the OP said he can't bolt to the floor then I
think concealment is his only option. The one in your URL has
some concealment potential but I doubt it'd fool a searcher for
long, it's just too obvious.

Bill


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Burt Smith

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Jun 27, 2007, 6:42:14 AM6/27/07
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On Jun 25, 4:27 pm, Jason <jasonbickf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> ...

> ...
picture frame
that conceals a full size 1911. This seems like it may fit your needs.
I looked today
and at this time they don't have them, but it's worth it to keep
looking.
Burt

Herb Leong

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Jun 27, 2007, 6:42:30 AM6/27/07
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In article <f5s9k7$mfk$1...@grapevine.wam.umd.edu>,
WillG <wmgra...@yahoo.com> wrote:
#Herb Leong wrote:
## http://www.amsecusa.com/gun-safe-HC1854.htm
##
## /herb
#Although any safe is better than no safe at all, a portable safe
#such as this one can be loaded onto a pickup or into a SUV by
#one guy with a handtruck. The entry into it can then be achieved
#elsewhere. Since the OP said he can't bolt to the floor then I
#think concealment is his only option. The one in your URL has
#some concealment potential but I doubt it'd fool a searcher for
#long, it's just too obvious.
#
#Bill

Maybe, but it does fit the OP's constrants. At 375 lbs empty, it's
considered portable, with a handtruck, as you say, but I don't know
too many smash and grabbers who can single-handedly carry one out
empty let alone loaded full of stuff without a handtruck. You want
to make a 375 lb safe a 1000 lb safe? Add 625 lbs of lead. And
that's less than a cubic foot of lead.

Anyone who is able to steal the whole safe is going to be able to
steal almost any safe under 1000 lbs unless it's bolted to cement
or *in* cement.

/herb

Sean Elkins

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Jun 27, 2007, 4:29:14 PM6/27/07
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In article <f5teum$emv$1...@grapevine.wam.umd.edu>,
he...@urusei.net (Herb Leong) wrote:

> ...

I bolted mine to the floor AND added about 500 pounds of linotype. I
suspect if it's ever defeated it will be by going through the door.

Rex

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Jun 27, 2007, 4:29:19 PM6/27/07
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Nick Hull wrote:
# In article <f5pj1p$sue$1...@grapevine.wam.umd.edu>,
# Jason <jasonb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
#
# # I'm going to be living in my fraternity house next quarter (I'm in
# # college, and its off campus). I want a small gun safe to keep my
# # handguns in but I dont have room for a big safe and bolting a small
# # safe to the ground could pose issues with the house. I think the best
# # option is to get something that will not be noticible.
#
# How about a safe inside your locked suitcase? The suitcase could
# be loaded with bricks and a (tricky) mootion sensor alarm. All
# college people have to have a suitcase handy. You want an old,
# used , decrepit suitcase not worth stealing and instantly
# recognizable from a distance.

Good suggestion.
You can buy those old hard-side suitcases for pennies at thrift stores.
Look for one with a good lock, then stop at a locksmith for new keys.

John Davies

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Jun 28, 2007, 7:00:56 PM6/28/07
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On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 00:05:27 +0000 (UTC), WillG <wmgra...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

## http://www.amsecusa.com/gun-safe-HC1854.htm

Yeah, and MSRP is close to US$3000 with the oak trim and cusihion.

John Davies
Spokane WA

R.M.R.

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Jun 29, 2007, 8:02:28 AM6/29/07
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Jason wrote:snip#I remember about 2 years ago seeing a small safe that

was built into a wooden bench. It was very discrete and while the
bench top is closed up it looks like a thick solid chair that would go
at the end of your bed but if you pull the
top open, its got a safe inside.#Does anyone know where I can find

this? I've googled "discrete safe" "hidden safe" etc and nothings
popped up.

~~~~~
Haven't seen the particular product you described but seems to me a
piano bench almost fits the description. You'll have to install your
own lock box and bolt it in and maybe a little modification to its top
with some molding and possibly shorten the legs a bit but being at the
end of a bed should look fairly discrete. If I remember correctly some
benches even have key locks on them. Any music store that takes in use
instruments should have one or check out the different configurations
on the internet to see if it'll work for you...

Ray,

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para bellum) U.S.A.
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R.M.R.

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Jun 29, 2007, 8:02:33 AM6/29/07
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Jason wrote: #picture frame that conceals a full size 1911. This
seems like it may fit your needs.#I looked today and at this time they

don't have them, but it's worth it to keep looking. Burt

~~~~~
I believe I spot them in Cheaper Than Dirt catalog from time to time.
Actually from the picture they provide it doesn't look to difficult to
make one yourself. I think I also seen one that's an actual working
wall clock., A little off topic but pertaining to concealment that
votes high with me is the Hide-A-Key that resembles a dog turd...

Ray,

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Rex

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Jun 29, 2007, 6:32:30 PM6/29/07
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R.M.R. wrote:
# Jason wrote: #picture frame that conceals a full size 1911. This
# seems like it may fit your needs.#I looked today and at this time they
# don't have them, but it's worth it to keep looking. Burt
#
# ~~~~~
# I believe I spot them in Cheaper Than Dirt catalog from time to time.
# Actually from the picture they provide it doesn't look to difficult to
# make one yourself. I think I also seen one that's an actual working
# wall clock., A little off topic but pertaining to concealment that
# votes high with me is the Hide-A-Key that resembles a dog turd...

Sportsmans Guide always has both at a good price.
Has anyone mentioned the old hollow book?

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