were there 45/70 Old West lever rifles?
Barry S Brummett
but if you were a cowboy in the late 19th century could you get a lever
action in 45/70? I'm not asking about cowboy action shooting today, but
rather history. Thanks in advance.
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# I know there were single shots, trapdoors, etc. in the Old West in 45/70,
# but if you were a cowboy in the late 19th century could you get a lever
# action in 45/70? I'm not asking about cowboy action shooting today, but
# rather history. Thanks in advance.
Yes, there were available. The .45-70 was quite popular. I assume you
mean lever acton tube fed repeaters.
The Winchester 1876 "Centennial Model" was introduced in .45-70. It was
also chambered later in .50-95. It was discontinued in 1897.
The Winchester Model 1886 was first introduced in .45-70. It was strong
enough that it was even made in .50-110.
Marlin offered .45-70 in the 1881, 1893, and 1895 models.
There were others.
Info from "Rifles in America" by Philip B. Sharp published in 1938.
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Lou Boyd
James Bergman
(made from 1886 to 1935)
This was/is a fine, strong lever action rifle which was also
available in bigger calibers like 50/100/450.
(50/100/450 = 50cal, 100gr black powder, 450gr bullet).
-Jimbo
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Vince Y in NC
wrote:
#I know there were single shots, trapdoors, etc. in the Old West in 45/70,
#but if you were a cowboy in the late 19th century could you get a lever
#action in 45/70? I'm not asking about cowboy action shooting today, but
#rather history. Thanks in advance.
#
I was under the impression that the Henry's and Winchesters of the era
were all pistol calibers. 38-40, 44-40, 45 LC, etc.
Vince in Raleigh
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of 1886, specifically to hold the power of the 45-70. Later still,
there were Marlins in 1894.
fl...@alaska.net
# I know there were single shots, trapdoors, etc. in the Old West in 45/70,
# but if you were a cowboy in the late 19th century could you get a lever
# action in 45/70?
Sure - the Winchester M1886 was offered in .45-70, as was the
original Marlin 1895. The Winchester M1885 and Ballard single shots (
with underlever ) were also offered in .45-70.
Jay T
Steven Kirby
# I know there were single shots, trapdoors, etc. in the Old West in 45/70,
# but if you were a cowboy in the late 19th century could you get a lever
# action in 45/70?
This is a deceptively tricky question. A lot depends on what time period
you ascribe to the "Old West". My definition would extend from the end of
the War for Southern Independence (1865) to the announcement of the closing
of the frontier (circa 1888). The Model 1886 Winchester was available in
.45-70 during this time frame, but only for a short period towards the very
end. How common it would have been that soon after its introduction I can't
say. There may have been other lever action .45-70s produced in the 1880s,
but I can't think of them off the top of my head. But the short answer to
your question is "Yes".
--steve
Gary A Williams
down around Yankton which had on display a winchester type lever action
with wood almost to the end of the barrel . They were used by the military
during the tail end of the so called Indian wars but were not a standard
issue item . I asked one of the folks working there what the caliber was
and he told me .45-70 government . What time frame this was I have no idea
because this was back around 1975 at the museum and of course this
wouldn't have been civilian . Shotgun News back around 1989-90 or so had
ads from some antique firearms dealers with some full stocked winchester
style lever actions showed up for several months but no one mentioned
caliber . Those being the only times I ever saw fully stocked versions
like that in my life I don't guess they are a large sample and who knows
if the museum folks knew any thing about the exhibit that was accurate .
Good luck on your quest and let us know what you find out . as ever
Enjoy Life
Willi
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Dale Anderson
#Someone wrote:
#
## I know there were single shots, trapdoors, etc. in the Old West in 45/70,
## but if you were a cowboy in the late 19th century could you get a lever
## action in 45/70?
#
#Sure - the Winchester M1886 was offered in .45-70, as was the
#original Marlin 1895. The Winchester M1885 and Ballard single shots (
#with underlever ) were also offered in .45-70.
I believe the first true .45-70 lever action was the Marlin 1881.
Dale Anderson
spec...@frontier.net
Durango, Colorado
Dale Anderson
#How late? In 1886 Winchester began the John Browning designed Model
#of 1886, specifically to hold the power of the 45-70. Later still,
#there were Marlins in 1894.
#
I don't believe the Marlin 1894 was ever chambered in .45-70.
dewayne
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there were no 45 lc lever guns back then, also i think Tom Horn used a
marlin 45/70 . they had 32/20 44/40 and such but the 45 lc lever is of
recent manufacture. if i am wrong someone please correct me
thanks
dewayne
James Girardeau
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# I believe the first true .45-70 lever action was the Marlin 1881.
#
Whitney Arms produced one earlier than this (1879?). It was, however,
designed as a military weapon and was not popular on the civilian market
because of it's weight.
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# # I believe the first true .45-70 lever action was the Marlin 1881.
# #
# Whitney Arms produced one earlier than this (1879?). It was, however,
# designed as a military weapon and was not popular on the civilian market
# because of it's weight.
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there is a magazine out at the stores right now on old leveraction guns has
all the info you want or need
Jdon626
the time of the Willie Nickell killing in 1902.
djl
the era. The 1886 was offered in 45-70, 45-90, 50-110 Express, 50-100-450 and
several other calibers.
Winchester VP and General Manager T.G. Bennett went to Ogden to buy what became
the 1885 single shot from the Browning Brothers. John Browning discussed other
designs he had in mind including the one that became the 1886.
On 6 Feb 2000 23:19:41 -0500, Barry S Brummett <brum...@csd.uwm.edu> wrote:
~I know there were single shots, trapdoors, etc. in the Old West in 45/70,
~but if you were a cowboy in the late 19th century could you get a lever
~action in 45/70? I'm not asking about cowboy action shooting today, but
~rather history. Thanks in advance.
Tim
including but probably not limited to:
- Marlin Model 1881
- Marlin Model 1895
- Wincheser Model 1876
- Winchester Model 1886
- Bullard made a few .45-70 lever guns between 1884-1889, although most of
their guns were in proprietary chamberings.
There were also the bolt action Remington-Lee models, and the various
Hotchkiss bolt action chambered in .45-70's.
I know I'm missing some here but that gives you an idea of some of the
..45-70 repeaters that were available.
--
Tim
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