Zoli 12ga. O/U Shotgun Value?

[John Stewart]

Can anyone tell me the approximate value of an Italian-made 12ga. O/U
shotgun made by Antonio Zoli? It is a model 281, serial #512651, sold by
Sears, Roebuck & Co., which I bought about 25 years ago. It has
chrome-lined barrels Mod/Full & two triggers. Stock is of good wood & is
checkered & receiver is blued with nice engraving.

Regards,

John Stewart
john...@aol.com or john...@computer-concepts.com

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[Keith Whaley]

John Stewart wrote:
#
# Can anyone tell me the approximate value of an Italian-made 12ga. O/U
# shotgun made by Antonio Zoli? It is a model 281, serial #512651, sold by
# Sears, Roebuck & Co., which I bought about 25 years ago. It has
# chrome-lined barrels Mod/Full & two triggers. Stock is of good wood & is
# checkered & receiver is blued with nice engraving.
#
# Regards,
#
# John Stewart

Does your gun say, specifically, Antonio Zoli?
Not just A. Zoli, or maybe Angelo instead of Antonio?

I ask because the Antonio Zoli shotguns were VERY expensive, and I can't
see Sears selling $1500-2000 and up shotguns! But, I've been wrong
before, so . . .

Anyhow, I find no Model 281 listed in my usual sources on shotguns, and
most Zoli's came into this country in the 80's and had names instead of
models, with few exceptions.

I hope others on this list have better data than I do, as I'm interested
too. Angelo Zoli's were decent, reasonably priced shotguns, and I guess
Antonio's were even better!

keith whaley

[ALBANYGUN]

In article <6r74eu$q...@xring.cs.umd.edu>, Keith Whaley
<keit...@earthlink.net> writes:

## Can anyone tell me the approximate value of an Italian-made 12ga. O/U
## shotgun made by Antonio Zoli? It is a model 281, serial #512651, sold by
## Sears, Roebuck & Co., which I bought about 25 years ago. It has
## chrome-lined barrels Mod/Full & two triggers. Stock is of good wood & is
## checkered & receiver is blued with nice engraving.
##
## Regards,
##
## John Stewart
#
#Does your gun say, specifically, Antonio Zoli?
#Not just A. Zoli, or maybe Angelo instead of Antonio?
#
#I ask because the Antonio Zoli shotguns were VERY expensive, and I can't
#see Sears selling $1500-2000 and up shotguns! But, I've been wrong
#before, so . . .
#
#Anyhow, I find no Model 281 listed in my usual sources on shotguns, and
#most Zoli's came into this country in the 80's and had names instead of
#models, with few exceptions.
#
#I hope others on this list have better data than I do, as I'm interested
#too. Angelo Zoli's were decent, reasonably priced shotguns, and I guess
#Antonio's were even better!
#
#keith whaley
#
#

There are 5 Sears Model 281.xxxxxx shotguns made by Antonio Zoli, and Angelo
Zoli (no relation) made shotguns similarily priced ( Angelo went out of
business in 1987, and was taken over by the Bank of Brescia in 1989). There
frequently is no distinction between the guns in name between Angelo and
Antonio, and many can be found with A. Zoli stamped on them. You have to know
the model name to tell the difference. The parts are not inter changeable,
either.

[ALBANYGUN]

In article <6r2imo$d...@xring.cs.umd.edu>, "John Stewart"
<john...@computer-concepts.com> writes:

#Can anyone tell me the approximate value of an Italian-made 12ga. O/U
#shotgun made by Antonio Zoli? It is a model 281, serial #512651, sold by
#Sears, Roebuck & Co., which I bought about 25 years ago. It has
#chrome-lined barrels Mod/Full & two triggers. Stock is of good wood & is
#checkered & receiver is blued with nice engraving.
#
#

Based on the limited info you have given, Sears did sell o/u made by Antonio
Zoli, not to be confused with Angelo Zoli. The Blue Book of Gun Values only
lists current production from that company, so I cannot identify the particular
model you have. Most of current production o/u similar to yours run about $500
in 98% condition. My guess if it has Sears name on it, it will be worth less,
and the double triggers may bring the price down, too. Parts are available
from Cape Outfitters in Cape Girardeau, MO.

[Mike Fetterley]

Hello;

I am trying to find a set of sky-screens for a Custom Chronograph Co
Model 1000 (circa 1970). The sky-screens or light screens as they called
them were marked M600.
A little history is in order. I purchesed the CCC M 1000 in about 1970.
The company was located in Oregon, Oregon City I think, and this was one of
their better models. However at the time sky-screens were an expensive
option. Most came with the little printed cards and clips. You know the
kind, you have to change two cards for EACH shot. Anyway I purchased what I
thought would be a life time supply of the cards. Well that lifetime has
turned out to be 20 years. I don't do a lot of load development anymore so
I would like to keep this Chrono going. If no sky-screens are available,
does anyone know where I might get more of the printed cards? It is my
understanding that the Custom Chronograph Company went out of business in
the mid 80's. May be someone knows if they are still in business under an
other name?

Thanks

Mike
Scio OR

ps Yes I know that I can get one of the new all-in-one Chrono for around a
hundred bucks. I just don't see the point of giving up on equipment that
still works just because it's old.
m

[Gary Napolitano]

ALBANYGUN wrote:

# and the double triggers may bring the price down, too. Parts are available
# from Cape Outfitters in Cape Girardeau, MO.

I have an old Fabarm O/U double trigger, that is a work of art, and a
similar
Superposed is not a BETTER gun, it just gets a higher price.

Regards,
Gary

10mm info site http://www.wizkidscomp.com/10mm

[goldng...@gmail.com]

Yes, I have a 95%+ Antonio Zoli O/U 12g, double triggers, standard engraving
with the full name engraved on it. It did originally come from Sears, I believe
a model 281. Don't know how to date the gun but Sears # conversion charts puts
my shotgun at @$1200.00 today. Just because it was sold by Sears does not mean
guns are worth less. Their higher end shotguns from late 50's to mid 70's could
very well be underrated. Price a new Zoli today and tell me the stout build and
crosslock are the makings of a very fine hunting or collectors pc. I would love
more information still. Recently I saw a Faustini which was heavily engraved but
used the same crosslock system which turned into a question, who first designed
it to begin with.

[RussF]

On Friday, August 14, 1998 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-5, John Stewart wrote:
# Can anyone tell me the approximate value of an Italian-made 12ga. O/U
# shotgun made by Antonio Zoli? It is a model 281, serial #512651, sold by
# Sears, Roebuck & Co., which I bought about 25 years ago. It has
# chrome-lined barrels Mod/Full & two triggers. Stock is of good wood & is
# checkered & receiver is blued with nice engraving.

The description sounds very much like the gun made by Savage Arms back in the 1940s
until I don't know when. I know of models 420 and 430 Savage of that description.
Nice guns.

[joes...@gmail.com]

I have always enjoyed using my silver snipe Antonio Zoli. Funny thing, it seems
I now have the actual 281 gun spoken of here with that serial number.
It is still very tight and nice looking. I bought it at auction recently and
have about $550 in it and I consider it to be very undervalued. I wish it
had single trigger, but sometimes two trigger gives nice choice on longer
birds. As far as A Zoli being Antonio Zoli, I do not believe that to be correct,
that was a ploy by Angelo to make his guns look better by mimicking Antonio.
These guns come to shoulder better than anything else I have ever used except
maybe a Wards Western Field deluxe in 16 ga. I have passed on Superposed and
actually sold one as I have no use for it, does not handle nearly as nice as
any Antonio Zoli. Buy American whenever you can....except maybe for Antonio Zolis!

[zivend...@yahoo.com]

I've seen Angelos in the 4-500 range at Arizona gun shows. Numrich bought out all of Angelos unfinished guns and parts. If you need a part for an Angelo and Numrich don't have you're SOL.

Both Zolis choke tubes use the same and odd ball thread but are not interchangeable. Angelos are quite a bit shorter than Antonio. I manged to find a IC tube for my Antonio from Numrich but best I recall a few years ago they were out of the other sizes.