Loading the Sharps 50-140
Michael Heath
and I need help. What do I need to reload this round. I think I am going
to need a reloading kit but where do I hind the load data for
blackpowder,
brass, primers and bullets. I have found a source for finished rounds
at $40 for twenty but I think I could do it cheaper. Any help would be
really appreciated.
thanks
Mike Heath
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# I am just getting started into reloading because I have a Sharps 50-140
# and I need help. What do I need to reload this round. I think I am going
# to need a reloading kit but where do I hind the load data for
# blackpowder, brass, primers and bullets. I have found a source for finished rounds
# at $40 for twenty but I think I could do it cheaper. ...
Accurate Arms' Loading Guide has data for loading the .50-140 with
their smokless powders. Brass is expensive. Be prepared for some
recoil as this puppt can launch 550-grain bullet at almost 2100 fps in
modern rifles.
Jay T
Gunner
<mike....@mindspring.com> wrote:
> ...
A local reloading shop took in a considerable quantity of 50-140
brass, dies, loaded ammo etc. All brass appears to be Bell. If
interested, I will dig up and post the phone number.
I believe that there is in excess of 200rds.
Gunner
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Michael Heath <mike....@mindspring.com> wrote:
# I am just getting started into reloading because I have a Sharps
50-140
#
# and I need help. What do I need to reload this round. I think I am
going
# to need a reloading kit but where do I hind the load data for
# blackpowder,
# at $40 for twenty but I think I could do it cheaper. Any help would
be
# really appreciated.
Accurate's reloading manual has info for this cartridge and
other BP oldies. You can buy empty brass for it too, but
it's still gonna cost you quite a bit, even if you get the
so-called basic .50 brass and form and trim it yourself.
Accurate has a smokeless powder that is said to work very well in
oldies like this-- very tame pressures.
Cabela's and other sources have a series of books devoted to
reloading and shooting old BP cartridges. They'd definitely
be worth a look.
J. Del Col
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Before you buy.
douglas amstrong
I would also recommend buying "SPG Lubricants BP Cartridge Reloading
Primer" by Mike Ventruino and Steve Garbe. This is a excellent book on
reloading BP cartridge and contains load data for you.. I beleive
buffalo arms has the book as well..
If you have any question about reloading BP Cartridge feel free to email
me or call at:
douglas.a...@tek.com or 503.627.3656
BarFav
the cost of same
Emmett.
James Sullivan
Good luck with your cannon I have been shooting my 50-140 since 1985 and
love it (but just a little at a time).
I really think I would of been better off with a 45-70, recoil is pretty hard
.. I have taken 2 deer , 70 & 150 yards ,
and a red squirrel at 60 yards yes it was over kill .
I have made a set of dies to seat bullets because my R.C.B. Rockucker and
orange crusher presses do not have enough movement to seat bullets sizing is
no problem though . I use 45 grs. SR - 4759 kapok filler and 438 gr. 50-70
bullet to hunt with . This load gives me 1725 f.p.s. @ 20 ft from muzzle and
2" groups at 100 yds. . My Shilo Sharps is throated for paper patched bullets
and shoots best with a bullet of around 550 grs. . I drop powder though a 36"
tube to get high load density and use FG black powder , a card wad a , .2"
grease cookie , and a paper patched Lyman Bullet .
My Lyman mould adjusts from 440 grs. to 700 grs. the 700 gr. bullets shoot ok
but keyhole somewhat I have not shot them at long range to see if they
stabilize . with the way "my gun is chambered " I have got up to 150 grs. of
Fg behind the bullets and that is a lot of power .
Anything else send me a e-mail and if any other people shoot 50-140 lets
trade information .
James Sullivan Michigan
Gunner wrote:
> ...
Sqzeplay9
search on CAS, and you'll find the links. That's all these guys do, and they'd
love to talk to you about it.
And it will be a LOT cheaper.
Just so you know - 50-120 (the only .50 with which I am familiar) carries its
own loading instructions; 120 grains of Black Powder behind your .50 caliber
projectile...
FJTurner
fl...@alaska.net
# Just so you know - 50-120 (the only .50 with which I am familiar) carries its
# own loading instructions; 120 grains of Black Powder behind your .50 caliber
# projectile...
.....but it is a bit more complicated that that. In thick modern
brass, it is often true that there is not enough room under the bullet
to fit 120 grains ( or 70 or 55 or whatever the xx-xx "instructions"
indicate ). The original BP cartridges were often much thinner than
modern brass with greater internal volumes.
Another item - which grade of BP should be used - Fg, FFg, FFFg....?
And as for bullet diameter, is it .510", .515", or .500" with paper
patch? Is the rifling twist rate appropriate for 470-grain,
500-grain, or 700-grain bullets? Not quite enough info there from
which to build reliable reloads.... ;^)
Jay T
Gunner
> ...
The shop that has the 50-140 loaded ammo, dies, brass etc is:
Gunsmoke Reloading
(626)-857-0744 (San Dimas, Ca.)
Ask for John, and mention that Gunner posted this .
Gunner
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"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an
invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write
a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort
the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone,
solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program
a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die
gallantly. Specialization is for insects." Robert Heinlein
Rosies Page http://rosie.acmecity.com/flower/277/
homepage http://userzweb.lightspeed.net/gunner
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Sqzeplay9
him what bullet diameter to use.
Without knowing what propellant - pyrodex, cleanshot, or good 'ol ffg; I'm
uncertain what to recommend, although I hereby recommend pyrodex, cleanshot or
ffg. The increased thickness of modern brass will not adversely affect his
shooting as much as the increased burn rate of modern smokeless powders.
Please note that after setting him off in a useful direction, I was not being
waspish - merely pointing out what might not have been obvious to the
unintiated.
And now, he has a number of e-mail addresses to contact directly for more info,
should he so desire.
Frederick Jackson Turner