Converting SKS to full-auto
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olxe...@lafayette.unocal.COM (Zeh Account) writes:
conversion from semi to full-auto is done corrctly with the BATFs
knowledge and consent. It's not worth $10,000 and 10 years of your life
to do it another way.
Colin Out
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curt williams
doesn't have enough capacity to be really fun to shoot (you need
30-50 rounds for that IMHO). If you're thinking of a firearm for
defense, you're better off (again IMHO) with well aimed fire from
an autoloader (i.e., your unmodified SKS).
I also think that 7.62 X 39 is too expensive to compete with a
9mm submachine gun for pure recreation. Either way, you're going
to have to buy the federal transfer license. Whatever money you
save buy converting an SKS rather than buying a 9mm will soon be
burned up in ammo costs.
Zeh Account
convert a SKS from semi-automatic to full-automatic..
Does anyone know how this is done( the right way)
Thanks in advance
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Thomas Woolman
#In article <1994072718...@unogate.unocal.com>,
#olxe...@lafayette.unocal.COM (Zeh Account) writes:
#
#conversion from semi to full-auto is done corrctly with the BATFs
#knowledge and consent. It's not worth $10,000 and 10 years of your life
#to do it another way.
#
#Colin Out
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#
But, of course you still can't do this because the last time I checked the
calendar hanging on my wall, the year was 1994, and not 1986. Sorry.... I
know it sucks. Believe me, I know...
There is one remote possibility, though, if you want to convert your weapon
to full auto with Big Brother's consent. I'm not sure of the specifics (as
I do not hold an FFL... I like my 4th Amendment rights intact) but you
can get a Class III dealer's FFL type that allows you to be registered
as a manufacturer of experimental weapons. THe catch is the cost per year
is $5,000 AND once you decide to not renew your license, you have to either
destroy or give up any guns you make, as any guns you manufacture can only
be sold to Uncle Sam or kept by you AS LONG AS you hold the license.
IMHO, the worst thing the NRA did in the 1980s was agree to this compromise
in the Gun Owner's Protection Act. I'd much rather be able to convert some
of my semi-autos still and just pay the $200 transfer then be safe when
I take it through New Jersey (like I would ever do that anyway....). Cassidy
was a real asshole.
^TW
Bev Clark/Steve Gallacci
#I have a friend who wants to know how to
#
#convert a SKS from semi-automatic to full-automatic..
#
#Does anyone know how this is done( the right way)
Well, first of all, it's illegal as hell, and the SKS isn't designed for
full auto fire. As such the trigger group doesn't have any provision for
normal full auto dohickies to be fitted. The simple and stupid way to get
full auto fire out of an SKS is to fix the firing pin forward, that will
set off the cartridge as soon as the bolt is dropped, then run through
the rest of the ammo in the mag. Any self-loading weapon so messed with
will do the same. Problem is, that it won't stop until it's out of
ammo.Beyond that, trying full auto conversions is a fool's errand anyway,
and deserves the attention of BATF, if for nothing else, to get anyone
that silly off the street.
[MODERATOR: So far I haven't heard what I would have thought was the
most obvious answer ... why? Why go through the pain and agony, both
technical but not the least of which legal, to do this? Especially
when there are much better NFA firearms legally available (well, in
many states and localities.) And if all anyone wants to do is have
fun redistributing the balance of lead in nature, then there are also
much cheaper things to shoot...]
Gary Coffman
#
#convert a SKS from semi-automatic to full-automatic..
#
#Does anyone know how this is done( the right way)
First you have to get a machinegun manufacturer's license ($10,000).
That's because there isn't a full auto version of the SKS, so you are
building a totally new gun from a legal standpoint. And since it's
after 1986, you can't possess it as a civilian after you make it.
Gary
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William S. Rowell
: I have a friend who wants to know how to
: convert a SKS from semi-automatic to full-automatic..
: Does anyone know how this is done( the right way)
Can't tell you, but you'll be able to cook some nice weenies and
marshmallows over what's left of his house and body... Don't forget to
bring your videocamera for "America's Funniest BATF Videos."
Seth
Joe Chew
Aftermarket magazines as high in capacity as those for any other
similar rifle are available: your choice of fixed or detachable.
Same choice of favorite brands and odds that they'll work right,
too. :) They might be illegal outright in some states, and in
some combinations with other attributes they are illegal Federally.
For instance, in California a detachable magazine is a no-no,
specifically called out in the RoboRooster assault weapons ban. See
the May '94 Rifleman for the lowdown on Federal rules for other mods.
But if you're converting your SKS to full auto in these post-1986
times, and you don't fall within the very specific and narrow
exceptions covering the manufacture and disposition of such things,
you're flirting with 10 and 10 in the Federal pen, so you're
probably not too worried about the magazine capacity issues.
There are plans floating about, e.g., at gun shows, for modifying
an SKS for select-fire (not just slamfire of the whole clip).
The plans come with a disclaimer that they are for information
purposes only and that it's heavily illegal, not just naughty, to
actually do this. Gunsmithing is involved, though in my cursory
examination of such plans it didn't look as though tremendously
precise work was required.
Not me, thank you. If I wanted a select-fire weapon, I'd get one
whose designer had that in mind.
--Joe
Colonel Panic
#Aftermarket magazines as high in capacity as those for any other
#similar rifle are available: your choice of fixed or detachable.
#...
#For instance, in California a detachable magazine is a no-no,
#specifically called out in the RoboRooster assault weapons ban. See
#the May '94 Rifleman for the lowdown on Federal rules for other mods.
But is is legal to replace with a larger capacity fixed magazine in CA?
Assuming yes, any new recommendations? Somebody in the past spoke highly
of Norinco (?) 20-round metal mags, claiming they were much more reliable than
the 30-rounders. Also, are the Zytel (?) magazines better or worse than
the metal mags? And: are the same magazines used for all models, e.g.
will the 1950s Russian SKSes use the same as recent manufacture Chinese
SKS, Chinese "paratrooper" models, and Chinese "cowboy companion" models?
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<of Norinco (?) 20-round metal mags, claiming they were much more reliable
<thanthe metal mags? And: are the same magazines used for all models, e.g.
<SKS, Chinese "paratrooper" models, and Chinese "cowboy companion" models?
The Federal Arms catalog shows two versions of the Paratrooper SKS. The NEW
1994 Production model takes AK Magazines. (Comes with a 5 round magazine.)
The stock is different too.
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