Ruger 10-22 Question. When is Pre-ban?
CC
ban era for the Ruger 10-22 rifle. I could conclude that numbers below
that rnage are preban.
Thanks,
CC
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you're not talking about that, then what could be "banned" on a .22
besides shot capacity and barrel length?
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# Can anyone tell me what serial number range begins the so-called post
# ban era for the Ruger 10-22 rifle. I could conclude that numbers below
# that rnage are preban.
# Thanks,
# CC
Is (was) there a ban?
Ragnar
"CC" <cle...@coconet.com> wrote in message
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# Can anyone tell me what serial number range begins the so-called post
# ban era for the Ruger 10-22 rifle. I could conclude that numbers below
# that rnage are preban.
# Thanks,
# CC
As far as I know, there is no difference between pre-and post-ban 1022's
except for magazine capacity. However, to get the real answer, try asking
Ruger.
http://www.ruger-firearms.com/home.html
PMediaS
with pre-ban and post ban.
Rugers currently have a "warning" marked on their guns that many of us think is
a butt ugly thing to do to a gun, issues of "selling out" notwithstanding.
Consequently, the pre-warning guns are more desired.
I can't remember when Ruger started putting the warning on their guns. Maybe
somebody else has a better recollection than I do.
Randy
singe69
HOJU <jhea...@centralva.net> wrote in message
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# i thought rimfire rifles were excluded from the assault rifles ban? If
# you're not talking about that, then what could be "banned" on a .22
# besides shot capacity and barrel length?
#
There was (is) a large after market supply of other "bad" items such as;
Flash supressors (with or w/o bayonet lug), pistol grip stocks, folding
stocks and etc.
S.
CC
However, as one poster said there is a large aftermarket of
accessories for the little 10-22. Two of the most desireable items is
the folding stock and large capacity magazines. These items, as I
understand it, CAN NOT be applied to current production 10-22's,
however like so many other "pre-ban" rifles that already had those
items the older 10-22's can have them as well, thus I was interested
in knowing what the serial # range is.
CC
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Ron Hingston
#Sorry for all the confusion here. The Ruger 10-22 was never banned.
#However, as one poster said there is a large aftermarket of
#accessories for the little 10-22. Two of the most desireable items is
#the folding stock and large capacity magazines. These items, as I
#understand it, CAN NOT be applied to current production 10-22's,
#however like so many other "pre-ban" rifles that already had those
#items the older 10-22's can have them as well, thus I was interested
#in knowing what the serial # range is.
For BATF regulations, magazine capacity does not an assault weapon make (sorry
for the Yoda speak :)
It's a "detachable" magazine *plus* more than *one* of the following evil
features in a post ban configuration.
1. Bayonet lug
2. Pistol grip
3. Folding or collapsible stock
4. Grenade launcher
5. Flash suppressor or threaded barrel.
However, since the after-market units employ both a pistol grip and folding
stock, there *could* be a problem (at least the ones I've seen).
I emphasize *could* because as one poster pointed out about rimfire weapons
being exempt.
#CC
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folder (thank you john mason you may be and old angry kermudgen and your
product is inferior but hey its cheap and it works)
my rifle is serial # 236-46XXX any before that were manufacturered before
the ban i'm sure there are higher numbers than that i bought mine in 1992 i
think it was new in the box at the time
although i wish i would have left it alone today it was fun puttin on the
flashhider,barrel shroud,eagle zepher sights,upper handguard,extended mag
release,butler creek folder(after the black warrior cracked)
Surly
# ban era for the Ruger 10-22 rifle. I could conclude that numbers below
# that rnage are preban.
I believe THIS is what you're after. This link tells it all.
Happy New Year fellow gun owners!
http://www.sportables.com/ruger_rifles.htm
(you may have to copy & paste the link) ;0)
CC
Thanks a million. Happy New Year.
CC
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# ban era for the Ruger 10-22 rifle. I could conclude that numbers below
# that rnage are preban.
Actually, no, you cannot conclude that serial numbers below that range
are "pre-ban".
At most you can presume that a serial number from the same sequence is
on a gun that was probably manufactured prior to the magic date -- but
having been manufactured prior to the ban does NOT make a Ruger 10-22
"pre-ban"
A standard Ruger 10-22 could have been manufactured before you were born
and would still not be "pre-ban" unless someone had previously modified
it into the configuration the law defines as a "semiautomatic assault
weapon." The regular Ruger 10-22 wasn't normally in such a
configuration coming from the factory (off hand, I don't know if the
Ruger factory shipped ANY 10-22 rifles in a configuration that would
qualify).
Some people take the approach that as long as the gun was apparently
manufactured before the ban then it is the BATF's problem to prove it
was never assembled into a "semiautomatic assault weapon" some time
prior to the ban. That is basically true. But that won't keep you out
of jail while you wait for the court to decide whether or not a rifle
that the BATF _can_ prove left the factory NOT a semiautomatic assault
weapon might have magically become one before the ban. The BATF _will_
be able to prove that the gun was not originally covered and that the
parts you added were manufactured too late to have been on the weapon by
the magic date. Your lawyers (that are costing you a couple hundred
bucks an hour) will be arguing that someone else bought the original
rifle and modified it before the ban (thus making it preban) and that
you later bought it and put new parts on it. You might win -- but
you'll rot in jail, while all your guns sit in a BATF evidence locker,
waiting for the court to decide they believe you over the government's
"expert" witnesses.
CDC
# But that won't keep you out
# of jail while you wait for the court to decide whether or not a rifle
# that the BATF _can_ prove left the factory NOT a semiautomatic assault
# weapon
That proves nothing about the legality.
#might have magically become one before the ban. The BATF _will_
# be able to prove that the gun was not originally covered and that the
# parts you added were manufactured too late to have been on the weapon by
# the magic date.
Still does not prove legality. Now going through the various owners of the
gun from Ruger, to distributor, to FFL, to buyer, to next buyer, etc. would
be how they would have to prove it. This could be easy or hard for them
depending on how it changed hands up to the ban date. I wouldn't chance it.
#Your lawyers (that are costing you a couple hundred
# bucks an hour) will be arguing that someone else bought the original
# rifle and modified it before the ban (thus making it preban) and that
# you later bought it and put new parts on it. You might win -- but
# you'll rot in jail,
Bail?
#while all your guns sit in a BATF evidence locker,
# waiting for the court to decide they believe you over the government's
# "expert" witnesses.