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Joan

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Oct 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/25/00
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I'm trying to decide on the best FAL receiver for an STG58 parts kit (with
the appropriate US parts and removing the flash hider and filing out the
threads on the barrel).

I'd like to get one that requires the least amount of machining.

#From looking at the ads in Shotgun News, there seem to be a wide variety of
choices...

What are your experiences? Are there any in particular that I should stay
away from?

I'm thinking about getting a US made metric FAL receiver from Federal Arms
of America for $189.00. Anyone have any experiences with this one?

Thanks,
-Joan

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P.A. Harrington

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Oct 26, 2000, 7:54:41 AM10/26/00
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On 25 Oct 2000 20:27:44 -0400, "Joan" <joan...@hotmail.com> wrote:

#I'm trying to decide on the best FAL receiver for an STG58 parts kit (with
#the appropriate US parts and removing the flash hider and filing out the
#threads on the barrel).
#
#I'd like to get one that requires the least amount of machining.

First, before you do anything else, go to www.fnfal.com. Read the
whole thing. It'll take you a couple of days and it will save you
hours of pain and heartache.

You don't have to file the threads; you'd be surprized at how easy it
is to solder a legal muzzle brake on and retain the original profile.
This is why you need to read the web page.
#
##From looking at the ads in Shotgun News, there seem to be a wide variety of
#choices...
#
#What are your experiences? Are there any in particular that I should stay
#away from?

The only readily available receivers built on FN-licensed machinery
are the Brazilian Imbels. They require ZERO machining. They come in
metric. They are made from forgings.

I have built three kitguns on Imbel receivers. If every project went
as smoothly as these, I'd quit my day job and become a full time
gunsmith. Unfortunately, it ain't always that easy. ;-)

#
#I'm thinking about getting a US made metric FAL receiver from Federal Arms
#of America for $189.00. Anyone have any experiences with this one?
#
The Entreprise Type 3 is getting good reviews these days, if you want
an American receiver. They are machined from billets and are not that
much more than the Federal which are cast. Both Federal and
Entreprise are enjoying excellent reviews of their customer service
these days.

Good luck. Email me offline, if you need to. The Cult of the Right
Arm of the Free World is a dedicated and growing bunch.

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Clark Magnuson

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Oct 26, 2000, 7:58:33 AM10/26/00
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I have never had a problem with an Imbel, unlike Enterprise receivers.
But I have only built a few FALs. The Gun plumber has built allot.

After you have read everything at this site, you will know allot more:
http://www.fnfal.com/falfiles/index.html

Mr Double

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Oct 26, 2000, 8:49:50 AM10/26/00
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On 25 Oct 2000 20:27:44 -0400, in rec.guns you wrote:

:>I'm trying to decide on the best FAL receiver for an STG58 parts kit (with
:>the appropriate US parts and removing the flash hider and filing out the
:>threads on the barrel).

Just solder the flash hider onto the threads, don't even file them off. The law states the flash
hider must be permanently attached.

:>I'd like to get one that requires the least amount of machining.
:>
:>#From looking at the ads in Shotgun News, there seem to be a wide variety of
:>choices...
:>
:>What are your experiences? Are there any in particular that I should stay
:>away from?

Imbel (foreign, must add yet another US part to the gun), Entreprise, and......duh, can't think of
the other one....try http://www.fnfal.com/cgi-bin/forums/Ultimate.cgi?

:>
:>I'm thinking about getting a US made metric FAL receiver from Federal Arms
:>of America for $189.00. Anyone have any experiences with this one?

Some unfavorable comments about Federal at Fnfal.com above....


TOM
H&K a-knut

Drew Eckhardt

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Oct 26, 2000, 10:22:35 PM10/26/00
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In article <8t999e$cru$1...@xring.cs.umd.edu>,
Mr Double <mrdo...@airmail.net> wrote:
#On 25 Oct 2000 20:27:44 -0400, in rec.guns you wrote:
#
#:>I'm trying to decide on the best FAL receiver for an STG58 parts kit (with
#:>the appropriate US parts and removing the flash hider and filing out the
#:>threads on the barrel).
#
#Just solder the flash hider onto the threads, don't even file them off.

And become a felon in the process. The FAL accepts a detachable
magazine, making it subject to the provisions of the 1994 ban. It
also has a has a pistol grip (or thumbhole stock, which is the same
thing for the law in question). That means it can't have a flash
hider. The STG58 flash hider is also a grenade launcher, which
you can't have.

OTOH, another muzzle appliance (muzzle brake, flash hider that has
been sleeved and welded provided its diameter doesn't match that of
rifle grenades) can be silver soldered on.

The solder's melting point must also be in excess of 1100? degrees,
or you're still in violation of the restriction on threads.

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Ron Seiden

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Oct 28, 2000, 8:35:45 AM10/28/00
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"P.A. Harrington" <harr...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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# On 25 Oct 2000 20:27:44 -0400, "Joan" <joan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
# <snip>

# The Entreprise Type 3 is getting good reviews these days, if you want
# an American receiver

What's the difference between the Type 1 and the Type 3 receivers?

P.A. Harrington

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Oct 29, 2000, 3:05:02 PM10/29/00
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On 28 Oct 2000 08:35:45 -0400, "Ron Seiden" <rse...@alphaaccess.net>
wrote:

## an American receiver
#
#What's the difference between the Type 1 and the Type 3 receivers?
#
Type 1s have the "lightening" cuts which, in addition to saving
weight, are more expensive to manufacture because of the additional
machining steps.

Some folks claim that Type 1s are weaker, but I don't think that is
the case.

www.fnfal.com for pics.

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hamrdog

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Oct 29, 2000, 3:06:10 PM10/29/00
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one has lightening groves milled in the receiver (i don't know if the type 1
or 3 has the grooves). the grooves don't really lighten it up that much (i
guess a few ounces, it's not like a pound or something). the standard Imbel
receivers don't have the grooves.

andy b.


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Bill Raifsnyder

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Oct 29, 2000, 9:23:08 PM10/29/00
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go to fnfal.com for the opinions of many builders and smiths
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