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What Marlin .22 Bolt Action rifle from the 1950's would have a brass scope also marked Marlin ?

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TheSnipe at anti-spamdotmindspringdotcom

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May 27, 2010, 8:27:33 PM5/27/10
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A friend of a friend recently stumbled into a seemingly good deal at
an estate sale. One of the goodies he picked up was described as a
Marlin .22 Bolt Action rifle from the 1950's would have a brass scope
also marked Marlin. But it is unclear what model rifle it would be -
the friend that tried to described it to me was dead set that it was a
model 60 Marlin - but the only model 60 marlin .22s I know of are all
semi-autos, not bolt action.

Unfortunately the detail of if the Marlin with the brass scope is a
single shot, magazine or tube fed is unknown at this point.

The most interesting point to me is the "brass" Marlin scope... Anyone
ever seen one ?


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May 28, 2010, 5:31:43 PM5/28/10
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On May 27, 6:27�pm, TheSnipe at anti-spamdotmindspringdotcom
<feedmenos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
# A friend of a friend recently stumbled into a seemingly good deal at
# an estate sale. �One of the goodies he picked up was described as a
# Marlin .22 Bolt Action rifle from the 1950's would have a brass scope
# also marked Marlin. �But it is unclear what model rifle it would be -
# the friend that tried to described it to me was dead set that it was a
# model 60 Marlin - but the only model 60 marlin .22s I know of are all
# semi-autos, not bolt action.
#
# Unfortunately the detail of if the Marlin with the brass scope is a
# single shot, magazine or tube fed is unknown at this point.
#
# The most interesting point to me is the "brass" Marlin scope... Anyone
# ever seen one ?
#
Marlin did short runs of various special configurations for either
promotional purposes or for other entities, not necessarily
retailers. That's back far enough that my Marlin book should have
something. Don't have it here, though. A "brass" scope would be an
interesting accessory, maybe not the best for hunting, though. Model
60 was a semi-auto, like you said.

Stan

TheSnipe at anti-spamdotmindspringdotcom

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May 29, 2010, 1:15:46 PM5/29/10
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Still waiting to hear if more details about the mystery Marlin .22
come in. My friend's freind that got the piece is some one I do not
know at all, but based on what I know of my friend I get an impression
the proud new owner knows guns well enough to know this isn't a
semiauto, and understands the difference between charging handle and
bolt action knob.

Unfortunately in their original discussion they did not get into
details on the Marlin (like - was the brass scope a long "old fashion
version" one) They were more more revved up about a Winchester
gallery .22 (another piece in the sale) with an octogon barrel. Tale
being it had been sent back to Winchester to get the barrel replaced
back in "grand dad's time...

sta...@prolynx.com

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May 29, 2010, 8:24:25 PM5/29/10
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On May 29, 11:15�am, TheSnipe at anti-spamdotmindspringdotcom
<feedmenos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
# Still waiting to hear if more details about the mystery Marlin .22
# come in. �My friend's freind that got the piece is some one I do not
# know at all, but based on what I know of my friend I get an impression
# the proud new owner knows guns well enough to know this isn't a
# semiauto, and understands the difference between charging handle and
# bolt action knob.
#
# Unfortunately in their original discussion they did not get into
# details on the Marlin (like - was the brass scope a long "old fashion
# version" one) �They were more more revved up about a Winchester
# gallery .22 (another piece in the sale) with an octogon barrel. �Tale
# being it had been sent back to Winchester to get the barrel replaced
# back in "grand dad's time...
#
Marlin book was on the top of the heap for once. The model 65 was the
first .22 bolt Marlin, was a single shot, didn't last long. The model
80 was made in box magazine and tube fed sub-models up until 1959.
Most of the rest were three digit models, hard to mistake those for
"60". Marlin was one of the first to include scopes with their
rifles, Malcom scopes on Ballard rifles were what was first offered.
The book said that by the '70s, Marlin was the biggest consumer of
scopes in the US. Didn't make a one, though. No mention of a brass
finish on any of those or any special packaged versons with same. So
still a mystery. One thing I did find I'd always wondered about was
why all manufacturers just add the scope and mount to the package
instead of mounting them on the gun. A tax thing, the Pittman-
Robertson Act excise tax would apply to the whole works, not just the
rifle, if the scope is attached.

Depending on the model, the Winchester is probably worth at least
8-10x what the Marlin is worth these days. Unless they've got
documentation, barrels are easy to crank off and on by anybody and
given the corrosive nature of those old .22 rim fires, those old
barrels were probably junked on a regular basis.

TheSnipe at anti-spamdotmindspringdotcom

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May 30, 2010, 4:00:42 PM5/30/10
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Thanks for all the detailed Marlin lore ! Some of the mystery has
been dispelled after more details were passed along.

It turns out it is a bolt action Model 80 Marlin with a reportedly odd
eight screw base holding the "normal length" Marlin marked brass
finished scope. It also is described as probably a 7/8s tube with a
focal adjustment on one end (sounds a lot like the plain jane black
finished scope that came with a Marlin Model 60 I got in 1970-but mine
is marked Glenfield and has been long since replaced with a nice 4-9x
that lacks the cloudiness of the original scope)

I'm still just relaying info from the friend as he gets around to
talking to his friend (the actual lucky fellah that got the piece).
Another detail of the Marlin's original owner's history (as told by
surviving kin) is that he won the Marlin 80 in a Turkey shoot years
ago (I'm supposing the Tshoot was back in the '50s since the tale is
that the Model 80 in this case is from the '50s). Still haven't
actually seen the piece myself - may never since the holder is no one
I actually know, but it makes for an interesting research project ;>

The Winchester is now confirmed as a Model 90 from the 19teens. Not
clear on when the barrel replacement was done, but as you point out,
it may have been one of several replacements depending ion the actual
use it saw, ammo used and cleaning/maintenance done. It is supposed
to have a nice barrel and a more wore looking receiver section.


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