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Galen Hekhuis
Jan 31, 2012, 8:25:05 PM1/31/12
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How is it in larger calibers? I tried some of the stuff from CCI in a
..22, and I wasn't exactly thrilled. Sometimes it killed the snake,
sometimes it didn't, and the snake would slither off before I could
get a second shot off. I did about as well with regular loads,
sometimes I'd get to nail the snake in the head, but if I missed I
could at least get a second shot off, sometimes even a third. Like I
say, sometimes I didn't kill the snake with the snake shot, but at
least one of the pellets *always* hit, and the snake would leave
pronto. With a regular load, if I missed, the snake would often be a
bit confused first, then flee. Specifically, has anyone tried it in a
..44?
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..22, and I wasn't exactly thrilled. Sometimes it killed the snake,
sometimes it didn't, and the snake would slither off before I could
get a second shot off. I did about as well with regular loads,
sometimes I'd get to nail the snake in the head, but if I missed I
could at least get a second shot off, sometimes even a third. Like I
say, sometimes I didn't kill the snake with the snake shot, but at
least one of the pellets *always* hit, and the snake would leave
pronto. With a regular load, if I missed, the snake would often be a
bit confused first, then flee. Specifically, has anyone tried it in a
..44?
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B R U C E
Jan 31, 2012, 9:08:43 PM1/31/12
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I've used it in .44 and at reasonable ranges with reasonably placed
shots it does very well.
I've taken snakes and rodents with a 2" .44special at 10-12 feet with no
problem
shots it does very well.
I've taken snakes and rodents with a 2" .44special at 10-12 feet with no
problem
Steve B
Jan 31, 2012, 9:49:37 PM1/31/12
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"Galen Hekhuis" <ghek...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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# How is it in larger calibers? I tried some of the stuff from CCI in a
# ..22, and I wasn't exactly thrilled. Sometimes it killed the snake,
# sometimes it didn't, and the snake would slither off before I could
# get a second shot off. I did about as well with regular loads,
# sometimes I'd get to nail the snake in the head, but if I missed I
# could at least get a second shot off, sometimes even a third. Like I
# say, sometimes I didn't kill the snake with the snake shot, but at
# least one of the pellets *always* hit, and the snake would leave
# pronto. With a regular load, if I missed, the snake would often be a
# bit confused first, then flee. Specifically, has anyone tried it in a
# ..44?
#
Most of what I have seen is #9 shot.
Steve
snakehunter
Feb 1, 2012, 7:35:36 AM2/1/12
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On Jan 31, 8:25=A0pm, Galen Hekhuis <ghekh...@earthlink.net> wrote:
# How is it in larger calibers? =A0I tried some of the stuff from CCI in a
# ..22, and I wasn't exactly thrilled. =A0Sometimes it killed the snake,
# sometimes it didn't, and the snake would slither off before I could
# get a second shot off. =A0I did about as well with regular loads,
# sometimes I'd get to nail the snake in the head, but if I missed I
# could at least get a second shot off, sometimes even a third. =A0Like I
# say, sometimes I didn't kill the snake with the snake shot, but at
# least one of the pellets *always* hit, and the snake would leave
# pronto. =A0With a regular load, if I missed, the snake would often be a
# bit confused first, then flee. =A0Specifically, has anyone tried it in a
# ..44?
I tried it in my Ruger Blackhawk 357 Mag and wasn't impressed. I
switched to a 410 shotgun and always got the snake after that.
# How is it in larger calibers? =A0I tried some of the stuff from CCI in a
# ..22, and I wasn't exactly thrilled. =A0Sometimes it killed the snake,
# sometimes it didn't, and the snake would slither off before I could
# get a second shot off. =A0I did about as well with regular loads,
# sometimes I'd get to nail the snake in the head, but if I missed I
# could at least get a second shot off, sometimes even a third. =A0Like I
# say, sometimes I didn't kill the snake with the snake shot, but at
# least one of the pellets *always* hit, and the snake would leave
# pronto. =A0With a regular load, if I missed, the snake would often be a
# bit confused first, then flee. =A0Specifically, has anyone tried it in a
# ..44?
I tried it in my Ruger Blackhawk 357 Mag and wasn't impressed. I
switched to a 410 shotgun and always got the snake after that.
slate_leeper
Feb 1, 2012, 3:47:11 PM2/1/12
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On Wed, 1 Feb 2012 01:25:05 +0000 (UTC), Galen Hekhuis
<ghek...@earthlink.net> wrote:
#How is it in larger calibers?
I killed a copperhead in my carport a couple years ago with 38 special
CCI. From six feet, it removed half his head and a large junk of body
where the body was behind the head when I fired. Be sure to use eye
protection. With gravel floor and brick walls, there was a significant
chance of ricochet.
Fun and good moving-target practice - taking those huge carpenter bees
on the fly with snake shot in the 22.
-dan z-
<ghek...@earthlink.net> wrote:
#How is it in larger calibers?
I killed a copperhead in my carport a couple years ago with 38 special
CCI. From six feet, it removed half his head and a large junk of body
where the body was behind the head when I fired. Be sure to use eye
protection. With gravel floor and brick walls, there was a significant
chance of ricochet.
Fun and good moving-target practice - taking those huge carpenter bees
on the fly with snake shot in the 22.
-dan z-
Stanley Schaefer
Feb 1, 2012, 3:47:17 PM2/1/12
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On Jan 31, 7:08=A0pm, BAK...@webtv.net (B R U C E) wrote:
# I've used it in .44 and at reasonable ranges with reasonably placed
# shots it does very well.
#
# I've taken snakes and rodents with a 2" .44special at 10-12 feet with no
# problem
#
I believe that's the key, has to be really close or the donut-hole
effect takes place. Also, those .44 capsules really only hold a
fraction of what even a 2 1/2" .410 has for payload. In a .22, you'd
be lucky to kill a small bird with shotshells. Those are usually
packed with #12 or dust shot. Probably good for chasing small mice,
not much else. I've always favored an air gun for such duties. I
played around with home-made shot loads in revolvers a couple of
decades ago and concluded they really weren't worth loading up for my
uses. YMMV
I'm generally not in favor of killing snakes unless there are dumb
dogs and/or livestock around. They don't want to eat you, generally
keep the rodents down and will go away if you don't stomp on them by
accident. They wouldn't be around if there's no lunch to be had.
Stan
# I've used it in .44 and at reasonable ranges with reasonably placed
# shots it does very well.
#
# I've taken snakes and rodents with a 2" .44special at 10-12 feet with no
# problem
#
I believe that's the key, has to be really close or the donut-hole
effect takes place. Also, those .44 capsules really only hold a
fraction of what even a 2 1/2" .410 has for payload. In a .22, you'd
be lucky to kill a small bird with shotshells. Those are usually
packed with #12 or dust shot. Probably good for chasing small mice,
not much else. I've always favored an air gun for such duties. I
played around with home-made shot loads in revolvers a couple of
decades ago and concluded they really weren't worth loading up for my
uses. YMMV
I'm generally not in favor of killing snakes unless there are dumb
dogs and/or livestock around. They don't want to eat you, generally
keep the rodents down and will go away if you don't stomp on them by
accident. They wouldn't be around if there's no lunch to be had.
Stan
Galen Hekhuis
Feb 1, 2012, 6:32:07 PM2/1/12
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On Wed, 1 Feb 2012 20:47:17 +0000 (UTC), Stanley Schaefer
<sta...@prolynx.com> wrote:
#On Jan 31, 7:08=A0pm, BAK...@webtv.net (B R U C E) wrote:
## I've used it in .44 and at reasonable ranges with reasonably placed
## shots it does very well.
##
## I've taken snakes and rodents with a 2" .44special at 10-12 feet with no
## problem
##
#I believe that's the key, has to be really close or the donut-hole
#effect takes place. Also, those .44 capsules really only hold a
#fraction of what even a 2 1/2" .410 has for payload. In a .22, you'd
#be lucky to kill a small bird with shotshells. Those are usually
#packed with #12 or dust shot. Probably good for chasing small mice,
#not much else. I've always favored an air gun for such duties. I
#played around with home-made shot loads in revolvers a couple of
#decades ago and concluded they really weren't worth loading up for my
#uses. YMMV
#
#I'm generally not in favor of killing snakes unless there are dumb
#dogs and/or livestock around. They don't want to eat you, generally
#keep the rodents down and will go away if you don't stomp on them by
#accident. They wouldn't be around if there's no lunch to be had.
No dogs or livestock, just one big dumb animal -- me. I'm generally
not in favor of killing snakes either, but I just don't move like I
used to, and it's likely to be a good 1/2 hour or so before any
emergency types get here, and that's if everything goes right. We
have a snake here (northern Florida) that looks very much like a
cottonmouth but is non-venomous. I don't shoot those. But I do
shoot at rattlesnakes (we have several kinds) and real cottonmouths.
When I was much younger, I used to shoot at water snakes with an air
gun and got to be fairly successful at making head shots.
<sta...@prolynx.com> wrote:
#On Jan 31, 7:08=A0pm, BAK...@webtv.net (B R U C E) wrote:
## I've used it in .44 and at reasonable ranges with reasonably placed
## shots it does very well.
##
## I've taken snakes and rodents with a 2" .44special at 10-12 feet with no
## problem
##
#I believe that's the key, has to be really close or the donut-hole
#effect takes place. Also, those .44 capsules really only hold a
#fraction of what even a 2 1/2" .410 has for payload. In a .22, you'd
#be lucky to kill a small bird with shotshells. Those are usually
#packed with #12 or dust shot. Probably good for chasing small mice,
#not much else. I've always favored an air gun for such duties. I
#played around with home-made shot loads in revolvers a couple of
#decades ago and concluded they really weren't worth loading up for my
#uses. YMMV
#
#I'm generally not in favor of killing snakes unless there are dumb
#dogs and/or livestock around. They don't want to eat you, generally
#keep the rodents down and will go away if you don't stomp on them by
#accident. They wouldn't be around if there's no lunch to be had.
No dogs or livestock, just one big dumb animal -- me. I'm generally
not in favor of killing snakes either, but I just don't move like I
used to, and it's likely to be a good 1/2 hour or so before any
emergency types get here, and that's if everything goes right. We
have a snake here (northern Florida) that looks very much like a
cottonmouth but is non-venomous. I don't shoot those. But I do
shoot at rattlesnakes (we have several kinds) and real cottonmouths.
When I was much younger, I used to shoot at water snakes with an air
gun and got to be fairly successful at making head shots.
Gunner Asch
Feb 2, 2012, 11:27:21 AM2/2/12
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#I believe that's the key, has to be really close or the donut-hole
#effect takes place. Also, those .44 capsules really only hold a
#fraction of what even a 2 1/2" .410 has for payload. In a .22, you'd
#be lucky to kill a small bird with shotshells. Those are usually
#packed with #12 or dust shot. Probably good for chasing small mice,
#not much else. I've always favored an air gun for such duties. I
#played around with home-made shot loads in revolvers a couple of
#decades ago and concluded they really weren't worth loading up for my
#uses. YMMV
#
#I'm generally not in favor of killing snakes unless there are dumb
#dogs and/or livestock around. They don't want to eat you, generally
#keep the rodents down and will go away if you don't stomp on them by
#accident. They wouldn't be around if there's no lunch to be had.
Very well stated!
Bravo!
Gunner
#effect takes place. Also, those .44 capsules really only hold a
#fraction of what even a 2 1/2" .410 has for payload. In a .22, you'd
#be lucky to kill a small bird with shotshells. Those are usually
#packed with #12 or dust shot. Probably good for chasing small mice,
#not much else. I've always favored an air gun for such duties. I
#played around with home-made shot loads in revolvers a couple of
#decades ago and concluded they really weren't worth loading up for my
#uses. YMMV
#
#I'm generally not in favor of killing snakes unless there are dumb
#dogs and/or livestock around. They don't want to eat you, generally
#keep the rodents down and will go away if you don't stomp on them by
#accident. They wouldn't be around if there's no lunch to be had.
Very well stated!
Bravo!
Gunner
Robert Scott
Feb 2, 2012, 6:46:16 PM2/2/12
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"slate_leeper" <bycy...@spamex.com> wrote in message
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#
# Fun and good moving-target practice - taking those huge carpenter bees
# on the fly with snake shot in the 22.
Hey! Somebody else does that too?
One of my buddies has a log home and the carpenter bees are always looking
to bore holes somewhere. He sits outside with his .22 and shotshells, and
has a heck of an entertaining time getting rid of the darn things.
Good shooting,
desmobob
Dillon Pyron
Feb 15, 2012, 5:08:05 PM2/15/12
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Thus spake Galen Hekhuis <ghek...@earthlink.net> :
#On Wed, 1 Feb 2012 20:47:17 +0000 (UTC), Stanley Schaefer
#<sta...@prolynx.com> wrote:
#
##On Jan 31, 7:08=A0pm, BAK...@webtv.net (B R U C E) wrote:
### I've used it in .44 and at reasonable ranges with reasonably placed
### shots it does very well.
###
### I've taken snakes and rodents with a 2" .44special at 10-12 feet with no
### problem
###
##I believe that's the key, has to be really close or the donut-hole
##effect takes place. Also, those .44 capsules really only hold a
##fraction of what even a 2 1/2" .410 has for payload. In a .22, you'd
##be lucky to kill a small bird with shotshells. Those are usually
##packed with #12 or dust shot. Probably good for chasing small mice,
##not much else. I've always favored an air gun for such duties. I
##played around with home-made shot loads in revolvers a couple of
##decades ago and concluded they really weren't worth loading up for my
##uses. YMMV
##
##I'm generally not in favor of killing snakes unless there are dumb
##dogs and/or livestock around. They don't want to eat you, generally
##keep the rodents down and will go away if you don't stomp on them by
##accident. They wouldn't be around if there's no lunch to be had.
#
#No dogs or livestock, just one big dumb animal -- me. I'm generally
#not in favor of killing snakes either, but I just don't move like I
#used to, and it's likely to be a good 1/2 hour or so before any
#emergency types get here, and that's if everything goes right. We
#have a snake here (northern Florida) that looks very much like a
#cottonmouth but is non-venomous. I don't shoot those. But I do
#shoot at rattlesnakes (we have several kinds) and real cottonmouths.
#When I was much younger, I used to shoot at water snakes with an air
#gun and got to be fairly successful at making head shots.
But you said they usually slithered away. As long as they do, they're
no threat. If they don't, keep firing until a) they get enough brains
to do so or b) they suddenly lose all of their brains.
Having been bitten by a water moccasin once (but not enveonamated) I
have a certain dislike for poisonis snakes. But I can usually identiy
one from well enough off and I no longer wear shorts and flip flops in
areas where they might be around and I can't see them in time.
Given the low amount of supplies for coral snake antivenom, they are
the ones that scare me the most. And have the lowest incidenice of
envenomation.
Now hormets and wasps. That's why my EpiPen is in my right front
pocket, and anyone who will be aorund me for any length of time knows
where it is.
#On Wed, 1 Feb 2012 20:47:17 +0000 (UTC), Stanley Schaefer
#<sta...@prolynx.com> wrote:
#
##On Jan 31, 7:08=A0pm, BAK...@webtv.net (B R U C E) wrote:
### I've used it in .44 and at reasonable ranges with reasonably placed
### shots it does very well.
###
### I've taken snakes and rodents with a 2" .44special at 10-12 feet with no
### problem
###
##I believe that's the key, has to be really close or the donut-hole
##effect takes place. Also, those .44 capsules really only hold a
##fraction of what even a 2 1/2" .410 has for payload. In a .22, you'd
##be lucky to kill a small bird with shotshells. Those are usually
##packed with #12 or dust shot. Probably good for chasing small mice,
##not much else. I've always favored an air gun for such duties. I
##played around with home-made shot loads in revolvers a couple of
##decades ago and concluded they really weren't worth loading up for my
##uses. YMMV
##
##I'm generally not in favor of killing snakes unless there are dumb
##dogs and/or livestock around. They don't want to eat you, generally
##keep the rodents down and will go away if you don't stomp on them by
##accident. They wouldn't be around if there's no lunch to be had.
#
#No dogs or livestock, just one big dumb animal -- me. I'm generally
#not in favor of killing snakes either, but I just don't move like I
#used to, and it's likely to be a good 1/2 hour or so before any
#emergency types get here, and that's if everything goes right. We
#have a snake here (northern Florida) that looks very much like a
#cottonmouth but is non-venomous. I don't shoot those. But I do
#shoot at rattlesnakes (we have several kinds) and real cottonmouths.
#When I was much younger, I used to shoot at water snakes with an air
#gun and got to be fairly successful at making head shots.
But you said they usually slithered away. As long as they do, they're
no threat. If they don't, keep firing until a) they get enough brains
to do so or b) they suddenly lose all of their brains.
Having been bitten by a water moccasin once (but not enveonamated) I
have a certain dislike for poisonis snakes. But I can usually identiy
one from well enough off and I no longer wear shorts and flip flops in
areas where they might be around and I can't see them in time.
Given the low amount of supplies for coral snake antivenom, they are
the ones that scare me the most. And have the lowest incidenice of
envenomation.
Now hormets and wasps. That's why my EpiPen is in my right front
pocket, and anyone who will be aorund me for any length of time knows
where it is.
Don Lampson
Feb 16, 2012, 12:05:12 PM2/16/12
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Lots of people are terrified of getting snake bit, but very few
people get bit without actually handling the critters!.
There's only a few hundred poisonous snake bites per year in the US,
and less than a half dozen fatalities!
Most of those bit are males, 14 - 35 years old, with a blood alcohol
content of around 2.0! Surprise, surprise?
Lots of dogs, and stock, end up bitten! They frequently die from
the bites too!
Whenever I come across a rattler in an area where people, or pets,
are around, I bump them off pronto! I'm disappointed most of the time
too! Very few of the snakes I kill around here, (the Central Coast of
California) are big enough to eat?
Don
people get bit without actually handling the critters!.
There's only a few hundred poisonous snake bites per year in the US,
and less than a half dozen fatalities!
Most of those bit are males, 14 - 35 years old, with a blood alcohol
content of around 2.0! Surprise, surprise?
Lots of dogs, and stock, end up bitten! They frequently die from
the bites too!
Whenever I come across a rattler in an area where people, or pets,
are around, I bump them off pronto! I'm disappointed most of the time
too! Very few of the snakes I kill around here, (the Central Coast of
California) are big enough to eat?
Don
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